I may be wrong and deeply misunderstood, but this is how I got it:

Isn't the main point in Partnered Exploration, that two or more people see same things in the "afterlife", so it's not seeing each other but same things. Same thoughts.

Doesn't it seem (or it seems to me) that this could be explained by telepathy? You just think of same things, and transport these in each other's heads?

I may be missing something, but I don't see this PE as any kind of proof of the afterlife. Not that it couldn't be, but... Just wondering.

Why don't you join in on the partnered explorations and see for yourself?  

Blessings, Mairlyn

I'm afraid I can't. I believe that those kind of things need a certain kind of mind, clear mind. I haven't have any OBE or anything ever. And so on.

But what really are those partnered explorations? What happens in them and what makes it so real?

I think your own personal experiments make it real to you yourself.

nobody can convince another person. PE two people can see the same thing, like a donkey or Cosmic's elephant, but they can get together and disagree on what color the elephant was or how long its trunk was.
mental telepathy is not proof of the afterlife. in a way, how bad do you want to be immortal? meaning to always be aware you are you. we can rephrase this to do we as creative mind beings create our immortality?

I think we can because whatever we can imagine can come true. also when you give up wanting to be immortal thats when the universe steps in and shows you that you are immortal and it becomes real then because whatever we focus in on is the road we travel down and create.

with PE it was amazing. I visited my partner in Australia with my mind senses...not with mental telepathy but sensing and feeling...anyone can do this with starting with the imagination and reading Bruce's books got me started.

when I got to my partners house "I saw her cluttered books." lol. I told her to straighten them out. then as I was communing with how she was feeling and trying to reach me, her phone rang...jarring me right back to where I started. she later emailed me and told me thats what happened. therefore my mind was there. if my mind can be in two places, one phyiscal locale and in Australia at the same time, as I was conscious at the time, then its a short jump to think I will survive the demise of this body which exists in matter.

you can explore PE if you believe in yourself and no one else will believe in you, until you believe in yourself that you can do it. hugs, alysia

LaffingRain wrote on Jul 27^th, 2006 at 3:13pm:

I think your own personal experiments make it real to you yourself. nobody can convince another person. PE two people can see the same thing, like a donkey or Cosmic's elephant, but they can get together and disagree on what color the elephant was or how long its trunk was. mental telepathy is not proof of the afterlife. in a way, how bad do you want to be immortal? meaning to always be aware you are you. we can rephrase this to do we as creative mind beings create our immortality? I think we can because whatever we can imagine can come true. also when you give up wanting to be immortal thats when the universe steps in and shows you that you are immortal and it becomes real then because whatever we focus in on is the road we travel down and create. with PE it was amazing. I visited my partner in Australia with my mind senses...not with mental telepathy but sensing and feeling...anyone can do this with starting with the imagination and reading Bruce's books got me started. when I got to my partners house "I saw her cluttered books." lol. I told her to straighten them out. then as I was communing with how she was feeling and trying to reach me, her phone rang...jarring me right back to where I started. she later emailed me and told me thats what happened. therefore my mind was there. if my mind can be in two places, one phyiscal locale and in Australia at the same time, as I was conscious at the time, then its a short jump to think I will survive the demise of this body which exists in matter. you can explore PE if you believe in yourself and no one else will believe in you, until you believe in yourself that you can do it. hugs, alysia

What I wouldn't do to have somthing like that happen to me.  Simply because I don't believe a word you just said.  Not being mean or anything, but I'm very closed minded when it comes to stuff like that, but open minded enough to try everything in my power to get somthing like that to happen to me.

Envy.  I envy you sooo much  :(

Greetings slslsl,
Alysia's answer is right on, so I'd just like to say the same thing, particularly about feelings. During these afterlife explorations, you get what the other person is feeling from inside yourself, like strong empathy, stronger than if you were face to face with a friend, maybe because there's no physical matter getting in the way of the energy. It's not like a mental message that comes in and says 'your friend is feeling sad.' And it doesn't have to be a strong, major emotion; it can be like "I'm tired' or a sense of impatience, like I got when I visited a lady who'd recently passed over.
The same with other senses. For example if alysia's friend had baked some gingerbread (or something) before Alysia's PE, Alysia would have noticed it.
When you say mental telepathy, I think you mean like a phone message, just words?  It's alot more than that! :)
bets

hi Sissl

I'm ok with skeptics as we're all skeptics in some shape or form about something and we've all been there. at least you admit it and are starting to open your mind to the possibilities of this kind of thing. some people can live their whole lives never believing in anything and never changing or opening their minds, so they get what they've always got..more of the same.

i applaud you even come here to read stuff..this alone is going to take you into your own journeys..by and by. don't be jealous. I'm just hoping somebody here will get inspired because its fun experimenting with PE.

also right here on the internet you can google in remote viewing tests and start practicing that first..the more you practice the better you get and these are ordinary people..they are getting all kinds of hits on some of these sites. they have tons of forums with success stories.
or you can practice some of Bruce's exercises which I vouch worked for me.

much love and encouragement, and in all your getting, get love. its more valuable.

LaffingRain wrote on Jul 27^th, 2006 at 6:46pm:

hi Sissl I'm ok with skeptics as we're all skeptics in some shape or form about something and we've all been there. at least you admit it and are starting to open your mind to the possibilities of this kind of thing. some people can live their whole lives never believing in anything and never changing or opening their minds, so they get what they've always got..more of the same. i applaud you even come here to read stuff..this alone is going to take you into your own journeys..by and by. don't be jealous. I'm just hoping somebody here will get inspired because its fun experimenting with PE. also right here on the internet you can google in remote viewing tests and start practicing that first..the more you practice the better you get and these are ordinary people..they are getting all kinds of hits on some of these sites. they have tons of forums with success stories. or you can practice some of Bruce's exercises which I vouch worked for me. much love and encouragement, and in all your getting, get love. its more valuable.

That was directed to me, not slslsl, correct?

oh yes! sorry Indiglo. it was you. :-/

Doubt is a great help to all of us, I think.
Besides leaving the door open for future evidence for the skeptics,
it helps the believers to touch base with C1 while they review their 'facts.'    Haha, I wrote that as tho' I were objective about it, and I'm not, I'm on the believer side now, but I once wondered what the heck was going on.
bets

Hi I and Deanna being twins have a certain amount of telepathy between us.We have tried doing this with lettered cards, were one looks and one tells the other what it is,i would say we are about 95 out of a 100 getting it right,we have also many times known what each other are thinking. Love and god bless you juditha

betson wrote on Jul 28^th, 2006 at 9:45am:

Doubt is a great help to all of us, I think. Besides leaving the door open for future evidence for the skeptics, it helps the believers to touch base with C1 while they review their 'facts.'    Haha, I wrote that as tho' I were objective about it, and I'm not, I'm on the believer side now, but I once wondered what the heck was going on. bets

thats a cool way of looking at it Bets. whenever I get beset with doubts about anything at all, I do this also like you do, to take the doubts and change them into a known as in a process of using them. I let my brow get knitted up for oftentimes a whole day while I'm simmering up ideas and asking for guidance which comes sooner or later; hopefully sooner as it can be a type of stress and I believe the challenge is to keep centered always in whatever we do in life. doubts are a type of stressful condition but we can use the doubts..
experimenting for the truth is what I do..its really just self experimenting..and the knowns are for yourself personally..nice to share them when possible because we are all family who want the best for all of us. if you can't give yourself away I see no purpose for living.

hugs, alysia

Sissl wrote:

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I'm afraid I can't. I believe that those kind of things need a certain kind of mind, clear mind. I haven't have any OBE or anything ever. And so on. But what really are those partnered explorations? What happens in them and what makes it so real?

I've never had a conscious OBE in my life and yet I go on PE's. You're making excuses. Anyone can do it if they set their mind and INTENT to it.

What makes it so real?  If one or more of us see/experience the same thing, even if it's just a part of the PE, that is what makes it real. What is real anyway? Is your life real? Is my life real? I know my life is real. Is yours?

Love, Mairlyn ;-)

Good point, Mairlyn.

  I like to think of all that exists as reality, while our perception of reality is that which determines what is real and what is illusion.

Ralph

 

Exactly Ralph! ;-)

Love, Mairlyn

Dear Skeptics and Pratitioners,

I've discovered that sometimes when I least expected it, different incidents would pop up where I was in the middle of an OBE, lucid dream, psychic experience, or remote viewing experiece.  I was not necessarily intending to have these experiences but because of my reading and continuing involvement with this board, I was able to recognize them and appreciate them more.  It's like the studying of the areas covered in this site allowed me to say "Wow it's happening just like they said"  :o 8-) :)and because of this recoginition I was able to strart directing what tact I wanted the experience to take and request something to take back with me to C1 consciousness.  Other times I've worked with intention to complete an exercise and have come up with mixed successes.

Bottom line of what I'm trying to say, is that even if you chose to not actively practice any of Bruce's exercises, possibly just by the mear fact that you read some of the experiences on this board, you too may chose to recognize that you most likely have had some of these experiences in the past and will have them again in the future.  Awarness and knowlege, with support, tends to broaden my human experience as it most likely will do for you who a just starting on you journey to discoverr that, "We are more than or bodies."

Thanks Pratitioners for continuing to share and newbies for brings fresh inquiries.

Love to all, Jean  :-*

Thank you, jkeyes,
Your words always ring so true, even tho I've not shared all your unique experiences.   :o  I always look for you on these boards, knowing you will have something  very important to say.
bets

Ditto on what Betson said Jean..I always look for you here and notice when you are gone then I look for your return. you are right on..the more folks read here, the more they can make the connections to their own experiences as we tend to forget some of these experiences or shove them into the recesses of the mind.

love, alysia