Greetings...
 I've read through Bruce's first four books.  I've got the workbook and his CD, and am working my way through the workbook (with the help of the CD).  I'm not sure if I've got the feeling / placing intent thing down or not.  I'm trying the affrimation, and following the sequential steps in the workbook.  But I'm at the point where I'm looking for images in the darkness.  I don't seem to see anything.  I wish I did.  :(  Any suggestions?

Pratekeya:

All I can say is what worked for me. I started to see images (mostly moving) while meditating. I didn't understand what they meant at first. I'd see all kinds of things. People looking at me, people having conversations with each other (I'd hear them too), automobile accidents, automobile races, bicycle races, bicycle accidents, beautiful landscapes, sometimes with a bunch of people occupying them. Sometimes I'd see life size people walking right up to me. It was really puzzling.

Then one day I had a series of dreams which led to me realize that my higher self/and or friends from the spirit World were communicating with me.  From then on whenever I'd see things while meditating, I would be shown symbolic message from my friends in the spirit World. Eventually things evolved to the point where they would show me things by having me take part in an experience (through a non-physical body).

Later on I realized that when I had experiences such as out of body experiences in the past, my spirit friends were helping me even though I didn't realize this. It seems like the same thing happened with Robert Monroe. For years he was helped by his I-there without realizing it.

So perhaps it is a matter of being open to what your spiritual friends have to share with you. You might pray to God or speak to your higher self, whichever approach feels right for you, and let them know that you're interested in seeing things. I'm certain they already know, but perhaps they're waiting for your okay. One thing though. Quite often things progress in a manner you don't expect, and sometimes it takes time for things to be preparred energetically. Also, things can progress only so far if you're not willing to let go of limiting ideas and emotional attachments. I'm still bogged down by some. Argh!





pratekya wrote on Jul 21^st, 2006 at 1:32pm:

Greetings...  I've read through Bruce's first four books.  I've got the workbook and his CD, and am working my way through the workbook (with the help of the CD).  I'm not sure if I've got the feeling / placing intent thing down or not.  I'm trying the affrimation, and following the sequential steps in the workbook.  But I'm at the point where I'm looking for images in the darkness.  I don't seem to see anything.  I wish I did.  :(  Any suggestions?

Hello Pratekya,
when I was new to this kind of things I realized I have at least two different ways of "seeing" when my eyes are closed.

The first is "seeing like in the physical". This is you sort of look at your eyelids. I can see then retina pictures (depending on what I've seen physically before) and after a while colored clouds and/or patterns, in those kind of colors like photographic negatives usually have. Another type of this category, because to me it just feels similar to physical seeing, is seeing while lucid dreaming or OBEing.

The second way is to lead your focus away from that eyelid-seeing. To me it feels somehow like looking slightly besides the center of the field of view. It is the same kind of seeing that you have when you imagine something (how your new furniture should look like, or when daydreaming). Therefore, when you don't get anything, then try to imagine something, no matter what, because then you set yourself into this mode of seeing, leaving the physical-seeing-mode, and then you can again wait what is showing up unexpectedly.
Spooky

Hi Pratyeka-
Most people who have troubles "seeing" have trouble because they "try too hard".

Spooky's advice is excellent.  As another option, Bruce's "Home Study" Book Five comes with CDs that more or less hypnotize you, making the process easier.

Here's another approach that you might find useful.

Another option is to look at the actual layout of your inner space. You have a sort of "cave" made by the eye sockets, and right in front of that is a layer that echoes the everyday world one for one. It often has stuff happening. Then there are four more layers in which other activities occur, including images that sort of "emerge" and then drift forward to pass through your viewpoint as the universe expands. Notice the way these images are made of dots, with a granular quality like a laser light projected on a wall. Finally, the very front image curves around to gicve you a "back wall" on what seems to be "the other side of the inner universe" - giving the impression that there's far more space inside your head than outside. As you focus on these image qualities, you will notice that they kinda "draw you in", so as you release your hold on what was previouisly a 3-space, you find images and colors and vague shapes drifitng by - and finally your mind will tune in on whatever it senses. (That inner view is actually a 7-space, and by watching it you will tend to shift your viewpoint to a place where images arise.)

I have precisely the same "problem" as you describe. But by putting it to work,  it has allowed me to look at the more  exotic geometry available. The  various descriptions of the Seven Arits (I don't know the translation) in ancient Egyptian metaphysics (about 5000 years back) describe a similar space. So, as you look into it, you might notice that you are passing into another, somewhat "higher" level of inner awareness.

What is needed is to relax into that space and allow images to do whatever they want, usually starting as  abstract stuff, and then clustering to form various formns, like clouds that look like animals and so on. As your imagination forms possible images, it will also focus on objects that fit those forms, so what you get back is "tuned in" through directing your imagery. It's not a perfect system, but generally is quite adequate.

Good luck-
dave

I was just thinking about this the other night, how to describe how I "see" things there...the closest I could come is that I see them "behind" my eyeballs, if that makes sense..like I'm seeing with the part that recieves physcial visual images, rather than the eye itself.  Of course, as soon as you think about it while you're doing it, you snap back to trying to see with the normal eye, but I'm getting a handle on that part.

Interesting perception, Cricket-

Another way to "see" is that the everyday world is a segment, like a slice of pie, and to the sides are otyher slices of other worlds etc. Spooky mentioned this kind of thing.

Actually, when we dream, where is the "point of view"? We really don't know. I think it was Ambrose Bierce, or some similar cynic, who stated, "The dream is real until the Dreamer wakes. Can more be said of life?"

d

Thank you everyone for the insight and thoughtful responses.  It's much appreciated.   :)