Time goes fast! July's 2nd Saturday is coming up, the 15th.
Do you all do these in the summer too?

(My geographic area has alot of lightning storms in the summer; are we supposed to wait until they've passed to go out?)
What happens if the crystal is hit by lightning?

Do you think Bruce would like a Welcome Back Party? Or are we too late, has he gone again?

Hi Bets,
if I can keep it in mind, I'll go to the crystal at the 15th.
I don't care about lightning storms (as long as they're not setting my appartment on fire).
Spooky

Hi,
this is sort of an aside, not pertaining to this coming Saturday, but
---do any of you go back and modify or remove your PE posts after a week or so of posting them?
---And do you remember previous PE gatherings as clearly as you do say the intense significant dreams that then prove prophetic or to have strong lessons?
My memories of these PE gatherings are getting all muddled.  I'm having apparently false 'memories' of what I thought i read on this board or even saw during group gatherings that I thought were PE get-togethers. If they are just dreams then this will be the first time since coming here that I've had traditional old scrambled up dreams. Usually if I've recently done a retrieval or had a significant dream/OBE whatever, I don't have the muddled kind.
---Do you dream ordinary dreams much when you're actively involved in afterlife or OBE?
Sounds like I'm doing research! :P I'm not, I'm just trying to sort out some jumblings.
Thanks for any info you can share on this, bets  

Hey Everyone and Betson!

Well I will definatly be here this time, I'm looking forward to meeting you all out there so will be attempting to make it! I can't do it on the saturday but may try friday and/or sunday and see what happens, time is non-exsistant out there, I must remember that!

I thought I'd give you my thoughts Betson to see if they help for your questions. So far in exploring I haven't made it out successfully in a group PE so haven't really posted but I wouldn't change my posts in here, maybe add if I remember some more but as a rule I never change anything as soon as I have read someone elses just in case my experience gets influenced! Just a thing i have.

I can only talk about OBE's but I always remember them clearly to this day, and all of them! which is weird, all so clearly, i may forget some but as soon as I'm reminded there they are again. I have the same thing with intense vivid dreams as well but tend to forget these more after a long period compared to an OBE.

I also still have normal dreams, but not as much, I found ever since going down this path my dreams have always been intense and very vivid, I feel I was there and its just like remembering what I did yesterday but better. I still get some normal dreams where I wake up going, ok that was crazy and all over the place!

Whats your method when doing these PE's? I use to think I had to OBE to explore but am trying the phasing/images kind of way now because I can't OBE exactly when i want to which I'm trying to work on! When I OBE i remember well, but I can see how the other way can get confusing, thoughts and pictures over a period of time mixing up, I have no experience with this yet so can't comment sorry. Do you keep a journal? prehaps that could organise your exploring so you can flip back and check?

I got another question to ask if you don't mind me butting in a bit! Sometimes people when we do these PE's go out several times and come back with 2 or 3 accounts. How do you know which one is the real one, or if they are all real how come they are all different? This confuses me at the moment and makes me limit myself to one go each time just so i don't get confused and start to not believe the experience. Just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on this please?

Well see ya all on the 15th hopefully!

Ryan

Hi Bets,

Tomorrow is the second Saturday, the 8th. ;-)  I will try to be there.

My memories of meeting at the crystal get muddled because I've been there so many times with so many groups. I guess that's why I like going to the crystal first and then heading off someplace else.

Love, Mairlyn ;-)

just a thought Bets, did u know you can have an intense obe experience after eating speghetti and going under an electric blanket? :)  and no, it wasn't because of what I ate! lol. just trying to make a point we shouldn't limit ourselves. although I admit when I first started doing PE, I picked a full moon as I believed there was more emotional power conducive to that big old moon.
I'll head for the crystal and see you all there I hope. hugs, alysia

Oh foo,
Thanks for the date correction! Will anyone see Spooky to tell him? Or as Mair and Alysia say, since there's always people there and some of them could be us, we could just do both/either dates--? My first Saturday got caught up in that holiday weekend; I apologize.

Alysia! Are you sending me under an electric blanket >with< the spaghetti!?  :o That sounds like a Halloween prank!

Chillipepperfleasguy, do you ever read your recent posts and then go back to your first ones--wow! How exciting to see your development in the short time!  
What you recently asked about exit strategies etc has been beautifully described over on AK by spooky in his OBE and in Alysia's additional wonderful-as-ever- insights in response to him. Have you read that yet?  
I usually get out thru the crown chakra area after deep breathing and a prayer or dedication to doing something helpful/'good'. I used to feel a slight pressure/vibration encapsulating me and then 'get' lifted, but now I usually start from the deep darkness filled with light, then a narrow to medium stream from the head. (Dim room, twilight outside helps me too.) I feel the stream moving and put my attention on it so my consciousness sort of rides along with it. Then I can feel it land on something/someone and I offer PUL, then the retrieval or whatever. All this has been over a long time, but faster developments recently.  I'm sure you'll develop much more than I have!
bets

cracking me up Bets old girl; I don't thing the electric blanket or speghetti helps one bit.. http://images.bravenet.com/common/images/smilies/bouncer.gif

in our search for enlightenment (joke coming) let us not be holding a telephone during a severe storm. after I read this book about that, I was tempted to try it. the book was embraced? or touched by the Light. Mair knows which one.

you reminded me of something I'll post on the conversation board, thanks.
hugs, alysia

Hey!

Cheers for the heads up Bets on the other thread, been over there now, that was good!

I can't believe its tonight! I think I will deeply relax and try to see images/feelings and let it develop and see what I get, of course I'll be willing to jump ship and go OBE if I can, i never seem to be able to though when I need too :(

Well see you all later hopefully!

Ryan

Hi there, I'll try if I'm not too tired.

Spooky

Hi Ryan,
Re: the variety of descriptions after a PE you asked about,
my limited understanding is that some of it is caused like any reports different witnesses have to an event---more is happening than can be described, and different people latch on to different facets.
And then I also wonder if when a person there becomes focused on one line of events or one other person's actions, if they then can pull in additional impressions related to that line of events or person--? If so they might describe that as a contination of the PEGathering but it's actually not happening then.
And to make it more confusing, lately I've been apparently having flashbacks to previous PEGatherings where I later pick up more impressions with the same group, perhaps things I overlooked but now come thru for some reason.  --That too should be a question for the more experienced PE partyers--Have you all had that experience?
I've been told that inexperience causes mix-ups and it clears up with experience.  That's been true of my memories of retrievals so guess I'll just keep PE partying on!  :D

There are 5 Saturdays in July; why don't y'all go for the 15th as well? (Me, I just fall asleep).

Alysia, I thought of Dannion Brinkley's experience too, since bets isn't THAT far from Aiken, relatively speaking. (But the lightning is "worse" in the midwest...unless of course you happen to encounter just the right bolt!).
http://www.dannion.com/main.htm
I don't think anyone has done any formal studies on the effect of local electrical fields on the altered conciousness state. Betson, maybe you will get a chance to try and report back to us.
We had a really bad storm here last August and I don't think I could have focused on obe type stuff during it. It took down one of my 60-80 foot white pines in a heartbeat. Boom-snap-crackle-pop-thud.
(Funny...the stupid webshots program isn't supposed to tun on the computer but it throws up backgrounds on the screen, and the one it randomly chose yesterday is a scene of intense lightning over a city....hope I'm not being sent a message!)
Brinkley's website is sort of interesting...he does have a good-ole-boy flamboyance....I think the music might come from Stephen Halpern. What's most interesting is his new book, which seems to include a daily life review.Coupled with his report that his judgement when he "died" came only from himself, it sounds to me that he may be teaching, in essence,  another version of "forgiveness." Just a thought.

Anyway, maybe you guys could go for two Saturdays this month since there is an extra one anyway.

Went to the crystal, saw Alysia in a purple dress, Spooky in walking shorts and Bets in white. I realized I had forgotten to bring anything so I gave everyone LOVE from my heart center.

Namaste
Mairlyn

I bought this purple skirt lately Mair its a long skirt..I like to swim in color and it really tripped me out (flashing back to hippie days) this purple has red in it too. I do believe I like the vibes better than the turquoise and orange. colors are great mood lifters by the way, so make a bold stroke on the pe canvas of life my friends..

thank you for your beautiful full heart Mair.

Hi, I tried it late, thought it's never too late over there, I fastly went from the crystal elsewhere, invited you all to come with me. What I got I'll post it in another section if no one remembers something about it. Oh, I showed my musical instrument around, as usual, and greeted some people there, I just guessed it were you who posted here.

Mairlyn I'm not sure about what I wore, but here in C1 in Germany its absolutely hot and when I'm at home I definitely wear shorts all the time. Well and I can't get enough of that love stuff so thanks Mairlyn!

Spooky

Greetings, all,
I was wearing white at that time, but had thought I was too tired to attend and would let the PEGathering slide. So the white was C1 true, but a nightgown.  ::)

So Ryan, here's another example I cannot explain---Mair got a hit on basic appearance, but I didn't intend to be there.  ?!  Experience will sort it out eventually, I guess.
Bets

Bets, when I was writing my report, I was thinking of what you were wearing and then I 'saw' you in white so this was after the PE.  :o

Spooky, I too went someplace else but didn't post it. I had a meditation to do with the F35 TMI email group so combined it with the PE.  When I left the crystal, I went down to the ECC (Earth Core Crystal) and talked to the spirit or guardian of the ECC, then I flew out to Focus 35 to talk to our space brothers about Ascension. ;-)

Love, Mairlyn ;-)

Hi Mairlyn, I headed up for infos about the relationship of the higher self/disc and the ELS, had read the chapter in Bruces 4th book and had questions about it. I think I'll post it in the bookclub the next days.
Spooky

That would be great Spooky. ;-)

Hey!

Well not much to report from me this time. I layed down saturday night here in the UK and gave myself plenty of time to relax. I layed there and then started to imagine what it would be like to be at the crystal, trying not to "see" but let the image come to me. Slowly and surely it did! My entry point is always slightly down the hill so i can see up at the crystal. I need to practise holding this though as I soon lost it and couldn't get back, I'm sure I made it this time. I briefly saw the crystal and maybe 5-6 people up there all greeting each other. I was gutted I lost my connection there so spoiled any other chance i think.

I had a very very weird experience last night though, I wasn't sure whether to post this in the main thread as I've never experienced this before but I layed down for another attempt to make it to the crystal. (just to set the scene the past few days I have slept very little, can't sleep at all for some reason lately), i always find I can OBE easier, quicker when I'm tired. Also I layed face down in bed which is unusual, I use to have this thing where i had to lay on my back arms and legs slightly apart, the "classic" OBE position otherwise I thought i wouldn't get out ;D!

I felt the familar heaviness and it all happened quickly, i started to feel vibrations but instead of releasing from the physical it was like I took of in the same position into space? It wasn't space but it was dark and I wasn't seeing through my astral eyes? but could see, and there were like stars everywhere! And i was flying forwards, not controlling this at all, i felt the sensation of wind but no coldness etc and we built up speed and I was going really fast flying! I sensed helpers and at one point thought I felt hands, not like before where i felt physical hands, i would describe these as like astral hands, there were two of them. Then suddenly there was the noise, exactly like the hissing you hear when your trying to project, and its getting louder and louder! And I'm thinking why is this happening? I'm already OBE aren't I? how can I be flying if I'm not!? this caused the noise to die down a bit so i forgot about my thoughts and flew and kept going, louder and louder, faster and faster, the stars were whizzing by me i didn't notice them anymore! Then I was out!

I have never experienced this before, It was like going OBE except i felt OBE during it? Definatly confused!

It was like a lucid dream but I was concious throughout. I knew I was OOB and explored and then I thought I came out. I was in a new house, my dad and sister were there, they said we had to go somewhere or something, I said ok i'll be there in a minute but I've just been OBE and want to get back out! They agreed. all this time i was fully concious but for some reason the part of me that is meant to say, 'hey wait a second, this isn't really your house! your actually OBE and somewhere totally different!' didn't click in. Thats why i say its like a lucid dream, I've had vivid intense dreams, I've had OBE's, i know i was fully concious, i was there, not just remembering this, but it didn't click?

Next I was OBE again and my dad was with me OBE as well, and I said hey your out! and I prooved it by putting my fingertips on the wall, it felt just like normal but then i pushed my hands into the wall and he was shocked!

The next bit is weird, (sorry I'll try to keep this short! lol) I was me, but we were in a new neighbourhood somewhere, in a house. I knew we had a gang who liked to rule this area, i forgot who I was with, some of my family and some others. Suddenly the door and this gang burst in with weapons, they wern't human, i can't picture them anymore, they were slightly smaller though and they started shooting what seemed like pellets of a BB gun but these were real. I yelled for everyone to get down and cover there heads with there arms, we have no weapons, theres nothing we can do, just try to survive. They shot, i felt myself getting hit many times then they went. And I got up and was fine, i didn't relise I was fine though, i checked everyone else and we made it through. I'm sure this was all lucid, i kept popping in and out but was concious throughout just more concious at other times. Then I became 100% concious again and it stayed that way. We had to go, started running and i looked behind and these things were chasing us again! I decided to fly, put all my belief I can, I grabbed my sister (no one else seemed there anymore?) by her arm and shot upwards and flew, then i came out.

I'm a bit confused because the last event was kind of slipping in and out so i assume a lucid dream even though i was there all the time. The events before I was OBE. The thing which confused me is how i exited, it was amazing, I cannot put this into words! The whole thing was weird though and I guess it must be due to a lack of sleep. I don't know what to say but wanted to express this so thanx for reading and sorry for it begin long and confusing.

Bets thanks for responding, I need to re-read and get back to you, quite confusing but I think i know what you mean, like the interpreter and perciever ideas?

Ryan

Hi Ryan. I only had one thought about the image of being shot with bb guns. you know how in physical life we have people with different belief systems who think that anothers belief system is threatening to theirs? the hijackers for instance. ok, the bb's represent they shoot at you with something small and ineffective and so you survive as do the others who think like you and theres really no effect, which means in C1 you are starting to believe nothing can hurt you, not in the long run and theres no effect of lasting nature. if its a future event, you may get some flack from others regarding your belief systems, and they may chase you with their energy, but you get away.
its sort of like sticks and stones cannot break my bones theory and names will never hurt me. (I'm still a kid)

hugs, alysia

Hi Ryan,
Before your fantastic experience, had you been reading Alysia and others on others' posts regarding how many bodies we have encapsulated in us?  Because IMO your helpers were putting you thru an experience which started with your consciousness in one and then moved you thru several other 'layers of consciousness' while en route. Wow!  :o
What a learning experience for us all if we can just separate these out and figure which was which.
I don't know but maybe it was Charles Tart, the chakra researcher, who said that each chakra/etheric nerve center, when fired up and in harmony with the Great All, is like a motor for a layer or version of the body and has its own way of knowing and perceiving. If you accept that description it would seem that you had your chakra motors going full tilt!  Congratulations!
bets
PS--To the other, Mairlyn's not constrained by time when she's 'out and about' so I'm not sure it's an issue of I / P or not. I'm really into this multiple bodies thing right now, and perhaps the I ? P is how at least one operates, but maybe not all.  

Hey guys!

I like that Alysia! It makes a lot of sense to me, although sometimes i feel I hold onto some bullets i recieve, maybe I don't need to or shouldn't but they do drag me down a little bit. Maybe thats why I felt them hit me instead of bouncing straight off! I'm intrigued about the future event, could you explain a bit more please? I don't really talk about this side of me to anyone except for on here, but confused about chasing me with their energy? Thanx for the feeback!

Hey Bets, wow thats pretty deep and over my head a little, need to do some research on this! I was reading the different bodies thread and also found it really amazing, i thought there was just you and your astral body, then Monroe said about a speration body, but then having more makes sense in a confusing way at the moment! I like the helpers thought, there were two, one of each side so this seems spot on, helping me. I didn't really notice a difference, or maybe I'm not meant too to such an extent yet with different bodies, (just a prep thing if it is to do with that?) all i felt was the speeding up and the hissing and the flying.

Maybe I didn't come out like a normal OBE into the etheric body? (which is nearest to physical i think?) which is what i think i have done before. This was just like a click out and in that split second i'm out and suddenly flying! Maybe I started in another body?

I have never heard of this chakra/etheric centre all fired up in harmony, and a new way of percieving and interpreting, there is so much to learn! I'm really intrigued by this. Thanks for sharing that, I'm gonna find out some info straight away. It did feel different in certain parts of my experience, wow, I feel like i'm just stratching the surface all over again just like when i first started out on this journey!

Thankyou both for the feedback. Is there another PE this weekend or am I getting confused? If so hope to see you guys out there!

Ryan

Hi Ryan,
I too would say with Bets that you are discovering different nonphysical places and dimensions, and the way you go to different dimensions would be a different way.
If we take the classic OBE, it's said to be closest to the physical, so you separate from your physical body through another body which is etheric but still relatively solid, and your surrounding looks very similar to the physical, you won't even notice that it's not physical if you wouldn't check it, like you told and proove to your dad in your experience.
Now when we travel to other dimensions farther away from the physical all would be appear more and more less like the physical, also the way we make it there would be different, so not the usual OBE procedure, more this "click" or phasing way.
Possibly we are active all the time in this dimensions all the time and normally our physical aspect knows not too much about our other aspects. When we have experiences of other realities it would mean there are informations bleeding through, channeling from one dimension to the other. When we're not experienced enough with this translation process it may be that we perceive (I mean bring back to the physical) lesser the more far away the dimension is we opened the channel to. I would say the farther away from the physical, the more our means of "perception" is related to our thoughts, questions, imaginations, because that is the reality out there.
Very good that you sensed helpers in the star-blackness. I guess you could pick up a sort of "ID" of that place for further explorations, and/or to meet your helpers.

Spooky

I think we should try to look over at the crystal this Saturday, maybe it has a hidden purpose that Betson announced the 15th instead of the 8th.
Spooky

Hey!

Thanks for the feedback Spooky, I really appreciate that, it's given me a lot to think about, none of which I understand yet! I would like to pick up on an ID for that place as its really neat out there and I really like it, I don't know how you get an "ID" though? I read about it in Monroes books but not sure how you do it.

I went OBE last night again which is unusual, two one night after the other. The same thing happened I found myself in the star-blackness again flying, it wasn't as full on as before though. The first experience there all around me felt like it went on and on, never ending, last night I felt more in a tunnel, or maybe just limited awareness. I also didn't feel helpers either last night. Once again I proceeding into an OBE and then also had a vivid dream? Where I was there but it didn't click I was out again.

In this vivid dream I was driving, for some reason I had to turn, i put the steering on full lock and nothing happened, i kept going straight on, next thing My car was all in bits, I had crashed. But instead of the car being in a mess all the parts on the engine were layed out on the floor. It was near a river also. Some people were watching me who I was aware of but couldn't see them. I walked past the engine in bits, all perfect then the chassis of the car. Have you guys got any ideas what this could mean? The reason I'm curious is because I'm travelling down to London this weekend for the day and to see the Chilis with a couple of mate, and I'm driving. Is this a warning? Is something going to happen?

I remember Reading In Monroes second book I think about his aeroplane crash dream about his flight the next day or week. It turned out his perception mixed it up and that the plane wasn't going to crash after all! I hope this is the case here! lol

I'm up for trying another PE this saturday and will definatly try to get out there.

Speak to you all soon,

Ryan

Chillipepperfleasguy,
You said
"In this vivid dream I was driving, for some reason I had to turn, i put the steering on full lock and nothing happened, i kept going straight on, next thing My car was all in bits, I had crashed. But instead of the car being in a mess all the parts on the engine were layed out on the floor. It was near a river also. Some people were watching me who I was aware of but couldn't see them. I walked past the engine in bits, all perfect then the chassis of the car. ..."
One interpretation would be that you walked out so were not hurt;  :D Hooray! Ok, but what else--rivers are good: The Flow of Life, Consciousness nearby, reassuringly.
All the parts are there for you to see.--- But you have to put them back together, don't you! :D
"For some reason I had to turn" but didn't. Getting harder for me to say why. Let's wait for Alysia or Mairlyn's time zones to wake  up and get over here.
It's too symbollic to be prophetic of your trip--have a great time!
bets

Well, I think Mercury is retrograde and that's the time to watch out for accidents, etc. I would heed the dream just in case.

Love, Mairlyn

Oh great, Mercury in retrograde again!  Can it also mess up our get-together, Mairlyn?
I 'll post my experiences anyway. I'd set my intent to exit out the top for sure. Early Sat. evening I felt a tingle up there that either means I'm anxious to get out or some other soul is near. Since i still had to fix dinner, I didn't consciously want to go out yet, so I finished looking thru some newly arrived catalogs before starting my tasks. I stared hard at the catalogs to see if anyone would report seeing those subjects I was looking at.  --?
About 4 hours later I was caught up with the family watching a DVD of classic Danny Kaye excerpts. I was concerned about the time passing ( ? why, I don't know, it's all 'open'?) and thought maybe if I just sat quietly I could get out and and visit. I decided I'd look for Mair rather than stand around and watch as I usually do. I couldn't find her but immediately ran into a male person I believe was Ryan Chillipepperfleasguy. My impression was he was flying low in a standing position and was wearing light colored slax and shirt. I showed him the TV skit I was watching at home and asked if he could remember the famous painting they were using as subject. --?
About 2 hours later at 11 pm here I tried again as I went to sleep. I first ran into Alysia who stepped from a group I didn't know. This past week I'd been thinking of participating more directly and showing the group some sky-dancing they did at an Eckankar party I was a guest at years ago. Alysia must have known because she came forward and grabbed my waist and up we went, did a few loops, laughed, and then her hands on my waist pushed me back to earth. She leads when dancing.   ;) She was wearing a fullish light lacy or print skirt that billowed, a slightly darker top and a sash. Then she went off with some TMI friends or others I didn't know.
So I looked around the circle of figures to try to recognize someone but no lights were on and I didn't see the crystal. Then I thought I recognized spooky and his Asian lady friend. I waved at her but she seemed to just be waiting. Continuing my plan to get more involved, I stepped forward and decided it was ok to give spooky that continental kiss he's mentionned before. We took hands and shared a brief moment of PUL, then I received the Continental kiss in return from him, stepped back, and that's it.
Hoping that someone saw the catalog or the painting that came alive in the TV comedy skit.
Hope you all had a good time!
bets

Hi all, I had a nice trip:

I went to a nice landscape and walked around and came across a little crystal, or just a stone which looks a bit like a crystal, put my hands on it and it seemed to be solid; I knew if I would try to change it with my imagination I could change it, but I wanted to keep this place unchanged. So I couldn't enter this little crystal to beam me up to the TMI crystal, instead a person materialized, took me by the hand and flew off with me, I wagged behind this person and sensed a giggle, sounded like a woman! Finally I landed at the TMI crystal, a bit aside it and I turned around awaiting some others to come. One came, a woman, in bright colored and wide robes or gowns flying around her in red hues and in turquoise. Hmm, wasn't sure and guessed that's Alysia. We greeted and then I saw another person, little and shy, seemed to me a bit in a sad mood and not really wanted to be sociable right now. So I tried what I've learnt and gave her (female I guessed) a love boost, didn't know if I did it right, but at least there was happening a lot, much energy streaming through me to her and when I turned it down I saw something odd: The person was flickering, swapping between a more or less clear person and a white ghost-like figure, transparent, like a shell. This ghost-shell remained and didn't move. I said to the person on my left: "Alysia, can you see it? Over there, this transparent person or what is left from the person?!" She said: "We have to look for a pinpoint of energy flying around here somewhere." So I looked out for it but didn't find it. It was getting a bit messy and someone, another person, tried to regain some order into our meeting and suggested to make a circle which we did. It seemed there were maybe six persons making the circle. When I held out my hands to grab my neighbours' hands I noticed I didn't need to grab, it somehow snapped and I felt connected as if we were plugged together. Then I felt a calming feeling, I cooled down a bit and became more balanced. The guide-person then suggested we go over to the crystal which we did, but before this I looked at this ghostly figure again, went close to it/her/him, and when I touched it/h/h it floated away like fog, following the moves of my hand until it was spread in the air and not to be seen anymore. I returned to the group which was standing already at the crystal and after briefly lingering there we entered the crystal. The guide-person seemed to have a target to which to go, and we went off upwards. I had the impression there was some questioning and info-gathering going on so I tried to listen. I needed some time to get through, then I started receiving/thinking (I didn't thought about the following in particular before my meditation):

>>>Summerland? Focus 27? Beautiful wide land, so much space, some places settled only by a few persons, or only one, some places were more crowded. Depending on the preferences of the persons. The inhabitants are creating it, they are resonating with the structure building energy of this level and through them a new land is born, a new piece of reality is created. Are they easy to be contacted? Yes they are, they're not getting lost within their wide land, actually the land every inhabitant had created is part of the person, they're quite good to be found and contacted, if they want to be contacted. When they return to earth, they would leave their land alone? Well, it's as if they weren't gone, even when they incarnate on earth, you know time is different here, it's like simultaneous. Is it somehow dangerous to think too much about this home here while being on earth? Not really, it's part of the personal traits how much they're thinking about their place over here while being on earth.<<<

I wanted to get a stronger impression of this place which was the subject of this conversation and jumped into it. Wow, was that beautiful! Not much to say about the landscape, more flat than hilly, but the feeling I had being in this place was very good, I felt free, especially of any pressure of time/dates, and I was free to go or fly everywhere around this wide place, to feel the surface of it as well as moving through it (through trees for example). My "wife" appeared and we hugged.
I then turned back to my earlier listening position and the infos came again:

>>>There is rest, a preparation to leave the form-dominated levels. To take time for farewell. There are many visits to the next level before the final departure. This light-beings are graduates of the earth life system. They can create in much larger degree than the beings who haven't reached this level, they're creating in a different quality, not only choosing within frames, but actually creating new things/frames/laws. They also become (more?) independent of their Disk/Higher Self, they are somehow set free because they're grown enough.<<<


Spooky

sorry to show up so late friends :-[  long story.  Bets and Mair and Spooky seem to be seeing my new wardrobe for awhile now and the colors and sashes and things, the turquoise and orange..skirts...billowy..I do dance Bets. I have a group out there and we perform.  so no doubt I would be grabbing you to dance. Bets, you probably saw me with some from Linn's group another forum tied to this one.

I'm glad to see Ryan getting around a bit more, good for you. to explain a little about symbols of bullets flying. my daughter dreampt that I was shot at. she thought it meant real bullets and maybe I was going to die. the next day or so somebody began "shooting" at me rude comments. so in dreams or visuals you can sometimes get a glimpse of a future scenario about to play out, then you can be more prepared just in case it happens.

talk soon all, good thread, I have to read more. love, alysia

Hey, last night, I was just falling asleep/dream, someone nonphysically appeared in my mind, he/she really wanted to get my attention. We then flew around a bit. I suspect it was one of this board, anyone remembers something?
Spooky

hi spooky, the kind of thing u mention about flying could be happening more often if we keep focusing here on this thread. when I think of you personally, you are always not with your feet on the ground but don't recall anything about last night. I only consciously get out a couple times a month if that. too much problems to solve right now to concentrate. but certainly, if I showed up, we wouldn't be walking around, not when you can fly...... :D  anybody go see Spooky last night?

Hi spooky,
The Chillipepperfleasguy and Mair haven't checked in since Saturday's get-together. I thought I saw him on the way then, flying vertically, jetpack style. Perhaps he's still out, practicing, and decided to take you along for the ride 8-)! Also, I still pray for your well-being from time to time, to get that opening healed up, but i don't remember when the last time was. Some small tendril of energy seems to rise out of my head when I pray, flow somewhere, and then encounter something/someone. --Were you flying with your etheric body or did you sense flying motion (like an orb or tendril might, however that would be)?

I didn't make it this past Saturday, too many things going on here now.  Will try for the 29th, the 4th Saturday of the month.

Love, Mairlyn ;-)

Hi there, well it wasn't an OBE, it was the other thing what I call mind journey, someone was there, totally unexpected and really made me awake in mind lol! After a little chatting I decided to go with this person to a special place of mine over there, so that maybe we could then compare notes about it.
Spooky

wrote on Jul 19^th, 2006 at 12:19pm:

I didn't make it this past Saturday, too many things going on here now.  Will try for the 29th, the 4th Saturday of the month. Love, Mairlyn ;-)

Awesome!  I thought I'd missed it for the month..

I told someone something that I thought (at the time) was important..and told them to remember and tell me here.  Thing is, I can't remember what I said! :-[

Hey everyone,

I had no luck this time so just going to keep trying ready for the next one.

Ryan

I goofed. The 29th was the 5th Saturday of the month. So I guess the next one will be August 12, the 2nd Saturday of the month. Unless we want to go to having a PE every Saturday. 8-)

I llike the idea every saturday as I don't have to look on a calender when my life gets rushed...like it is now.  so if y'all want to take a vote lets do it I say..love, alysia

So how do we create a Poll?  I know Bets did once so I know it's doable but I can't find a way to do it.

Anyway, my vote is YES for every Saturday.

Love, Mairlyn

cant find the poll button either, but heres the description

If you have a question you would like to ask this community, YaBB gives you the ability to create a poll along with your topic. This is a fantastic way to get a good idea of what this community feels about your question. To post a poll, find the button titled "Start New Poll" from the category view and click it. The exact location of this button will vary depending on which template is being used, but it is often near the top of the list of topics. On this special post page, type in your question and options in the respectively labeled box, then fill out your message as described above.

I'll go find the list of topics...

Poll button is on the main PE page, not at thread page. Happy polling!


Quote Shirley >>>I told someone something that I thought (at the time) was important..and told them to remember and tell me here.  Thing is, I can't remember what I said! <<<
Shirley you make me smile, yes that's the way things goin' sometimes!

I'm trying to go along with TMI's X27 this week.

Spooky

Great Idea-I'd rather keep Saturday Nights aside for placing the intent to PE and record memories after rather than to keep track of which one to PE.

Love, Jean