how do you do the focused attention exercise and what are the non physical senses? don't you have to use the imagination also?

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This topic brings up my own question along similar lines, when trying to bring on an OBE or similar do people have their eyes open or closed? Sounds like a silly little thing but nobody ever makes it clear. They say it helps to see yourself from outside, but do you picture yourself with eyes open or with eyes closed ie in your imagination.

it depends on the situation. both.

hi there. my eyes are open, except if I'm in transit..then there is a sense of closed eyes due to the speed.  try this interesting exercise. I've done it twice and a very strange sensation accompanies it if you are successful. lay down in a dark room and try to see through your closed eyelids. try to imagine where the furniture is in the room. pretty soon fuzzy shapes appear and start to define themselves. a soft glow is in the room even with your eyes shut. you're seeing the astral counterpart of the room, but not with the physical eye, with your mind's awareness.

hugs, alysia

From The Afterlife Knowledge Guidebook by Bruce Moen, Chapter 13, pages 150, 151:

Focused Attention For Exploration

Ideally a technique for afterlife exploration should not require losing consciousness--i.e., falling asleep -- before the technique can be used. It should be something simple that utilizes natural ailities that all humans have. Focused Attention is the name I've given to the simple system of techniques I've developed that incorporates these characteristics. In developing this system I strove to follow the engineer's Keep It Simple, Stupid (KISS) principle.

If I asked you to explore your present physical surroundings, you would probably use your sense of sight to look around and observe whatever you can see. You might use your sense of hearing to listen for any sounds in your physical environment. You might sniff the air to gather any odors or scents to add to your perception of your physical surroundings. You might reach out and touch some nearby object to gather  more information about what it is. You might even use your sense of taste to sample anything in the vicinity that appears to be edible. In essence you would focus your attention through your physical senses upon anything you could observe within your present physical surroundings. Change physical to nonphysical in the previous sentences and you'll begin to understand what I mean by using Focused Attention to explore beyond physical reality. It's just a matter of focusing your attention through your nonphysical senses to explore your nonphysical surroundings. All of us have both physical and nonphysical senses, yet most of us have become so accustomed to using our physical senses that we're seldom even aware of using our nonphysical senses.

Only two basic skills are necessary for you to begin exploring our afterlife and other nonphysical realities. The first is to learn to use your natural nonphysical senses. The second is to learn to shift your awareness to any nonphysical reality within which you can use those senses. In the next two chapters you'll begin learning what your nonphysical senses are and how to use them; then you'll learn how to shift your focus of attention to any  nonphysical reality you desire to explore.

OK, I've copied that chapter for you Ehem. Now YOU buy the book and read for yourself as the rest of us have done. Or get it from your library. You can buy them used fairly cheap on amazon.com.  I'm always happy to answer any questions but I do feel that everyone should learn the way the rest of us have and not rely on our answers. You have to find out for yourself.

Blessings, Mairlyn

thanks for that but i'm not allowed to get the book.

what are the nonphysical senses?

                                   

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i still live with my mom you know. i'm only 15. if i actually got it and she found it she would burn the book without reading it. i'll think about taking the bus up to Borders and getting the book. i don't know. i'll need a very good hiding place. if i make a decision i'll probably get it this week and if i don't i'll read around. do you have any instant messenger program?

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nvm. i see your sn for yahoo.

I don't want you to get in trouble with your mother. I'm happy that you want to learn, but as I said on yahoo IM, this whole website is a big source if you just read everything and read people's posts too. There's a lot for you to learn and this takes time.  You're young and you have plenty of time. ;-)

Love, Mairlyn

Personally I have the book I just haven't got round to reading it yet. Its in my reading list though.

Hi Ehem..,
yes you can use imagination. Try an imaginative journey with eyes closed, imagine a landscape of any kind and imagine to walk around there. You can give yourself the suggestion that you allow other people to show up in you imagination. Often in those journeys something unexpected happens. That's the interesting things. Try to remember avery detail and write it down. That's work I know, but the writing process is very important for remembering, and for realising that you really did it. Those imaginative journeys as well as dreams are very quickly buried by everyday's life issues when they are not fixed on paper.

Spooky