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Message started by roger prettyman on Jun 9th, 2006 at 9:10am

Title: The Will To Live.
Post by roger prettyman on Jun 9th, 2006 at 9:10am
While reading Cosmic_Ambition`s lovely posting of Estaban FR under "Upon Death And The Creator", a question sprang to mind about the will to live.

What exactly is it, why do we have it, where does it actually come from and how is it linked to our soul/spirit? We do not have to learn about the will to live, like we would learn to read, write, ride a bike, etc., etc. Also, in what I will call a normal person, presumably the strong will to live must be the same (i.e. one person`s will to live will not be greater than another`s), whereas personalities are mulitudinous whereby each one of us is different from all the others.
How often have we read that a person in a coma is "fighting for their life"? What is this unseen motivational force acting upon a comatose person?
Is there a portion of the brain in which it can be identified  and altered as for some mental/physical conditions?

I totally believe in the Afterlife so wonder why my will to live is still as strong as ever, even though I am not afraid of death - just the way I die.
When we (re)incarnate from the Afterlife to experience new things in the physical I wonder why our will to live is just as strong again when we know the Afterlife is one of pleasure. Doubtless, it is something we have absolutely no control over, no matter what. Akin to the fact that some day we must all depart this physical life and can do nothing to prevent it.

Your thoughts, please?

roger  ???

Title: Re: The Will To Live.
Post by betson on Jun 9th, 2006 at 9:46am
Hello,
I was about to write something but then realized my thoughts were pretty much a paraphrase of yours, just substituting the word 'curiosity' for "will to live."
We must come here, in part, to explore, and I believe, now that I have found concepts here that explain it, also to relay this information back to our Disk or Greater Self.
Of course we also come to love and I believe to glorify our Creator, so for me it is a sense of not having done my best with any of  these aspects of life that makes me fight death. Pain at death would just be a reminder to leap out.
bets


Title: Re: The Will To Live.
Post by Lights of Love on Jun 9th, 2006 at 10:45am
Hi Roger,

I think you ask an excellent question.  I have recently been wondering about this myself, as my mother who is 80, but still in reasonably good health, just recently said to me that she is “just waiting to die” and I see that she is loosing her inner will to live.  I remember my grandfather saying the same thing for a year or so before he passed.

For the most part I have thought that our will to live is built into the DNA of all creatures, yet it does seem as though what is in our heart and mind can have a direct affect on this.

I remember one woman that came to me several years ago.  She was in her mid thirties, had three young children and was in a miserable marriage.  She also had been diagnosed with some serious physical conditions and had not been given long to live.  Only a couple of months as I recall.  When this woman first came to me I saw in her tremendous inner determination to live despite her condition.  And she did.  This has been at least 15 years and she is still alive and doing well, though she continues to suffer from her physical conditions.

There have been several cases similar to the above and in them, the ones that have a strong will to live, many times do.  But I don’t think this is the only determining factor as I have seen others equally determined to live, yet pass fairly rapidly.  My father was one of these that passed still “fighting” to live.

Thanks for bringing this subject up.  

Kathy

Title: Re: The Will To Live.
Post by recoverer on Jun 9th, 2006 at 3:00pm
My feeling is that the desire to feel happiness, peace and love keep us going. Sometimes this need is sought through simple things such as looking forward to spending the day with a friend.

Sometimes people have difficulty finding happiness, peace and love; don't have hope they'll find it, and become suicidal.

My guess is that many of you have known people who knew their time to pass away is just about to come, even without receiving a precise medical diagnosis. They'll call you a week before they do so in order to have one last visit.  They seem to inwardly know it is time to return to their true home.

The yearning for ultimate happiness, peace and love, is often thought of as the purpose of spiritual evolution. The closer you come to God and your true nature, the more fulfilled you become.

Even curiosity might factor into this, because exploring what is possible when it comes to the creative aspect of being, can lead to fulfillment.


Title: Re: The Will To Live.
Post by augoeideian on Jun 12th, 2006 at 6:02am
Copied from my Two Children post - the Temple:

There are four spiritual sheaths of humanity.  Man is said to consist of the physical body, the etheric body, the astral body and the Ego.  It is the power of the etheric body that promotes physical growth, through cellular activity.  More complex is the astral body.  It is the task of the astral body to render the etheric-invested physical body susceptible to feelings, and to make consciousness possible.  The spiritual activity of the astral body is expressed through the nervous system.  It is the emotional life, brought to expression through the astral body that galvanises humans into motion.

The astral body consists of a twofold nature, sometimes described as dark and light.  One spiritual purpose of human life is the transformation of the astral body in such a way as to ensure that the lower darkness is rejected in favour of the higher light.  Only the fully transformed astral body, which contains no element of darkness, may be rightly called ‘the body of the stars’.  The human overlord of this threefold organism of physical, etheric and astral is the Ego which gives direction and moral purpose to the three lower bodies.

The Ego is the Eternal Spirit of Man.  It is the Ego that re-embodies in new physical, etheric and astral bodies in progressing earth lives.  The Ego is the seat of control over the the Will.
As said above; it is the Ego which gives direction and moral purpose - This purpose, once filled with love and understanding that the Creation is Absolute, can be very powerful, regenerative and transform the Ego into its pure state while in the earth realm.

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