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Forums >> Afterlife Knowledge >> Re: OUIJA MISTAKE! https://afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1146356585 Message started by dave_a_mbs on Apr 30th, 2006 at 3:55pm |
Title: Re: OUIJA MISTAKE! Post by dave_a_mbs on Apr 30th, 2006 at 3:55pm
Hi Steve-
The late Bishop Matthews of the Liberal Catholic Church once told me that in his estimation the biggest problem with a lot of psychic endeavors is that they open a window to a occult world in a manner that all too often lacks a window-closer. As a result, not only is there awareness for those looking out, but also there's gonna be a few flies to get in. So there you are without a fly swatter, hey? Now that you've opened your psychic shutters and are having exotic experiences, you might as well accept the basic fact, that you are developing psychic skills that previously were unknown to you. You have two general ways to handle this. One, embrace it and make it work for you. Two, resist and oppose. To oppose something very often gives your life energies to it, and generally fails to do much more than empower it do create more havoc. While this is not the sole result, it is a common one. As an example, a friend wanted to become telepathic, and after several years of effort she began to tap into other people's thoughts etc. Now her problem is how to get the voices to shut up so she can return to quietude in her mind, but all efforts have simply made her more sensitive. To make it work for you will require a change of attitude, first for you, and second for the beings that are playing tricks. There is always a reason that these things have come to you. You triggered the process, but there is an additional purpose hidden back in your subconscious. If you attempt to directly take charge, you will get involved in a power struggle, and probably will miss the point - at least initially. Yet there is obviously a lot of interest in communicating something to you. This is an area in which I tend to meddle, because it interests me. Here's my meddlesome suggestion- - - My basic suggestion is that you call all those spirits, entities, ghosts, or whatever they want to call themselves, tell them to cluster around you and With You, tell them to dedicate themselves, You, and Whatever They Do, to the "Highest Good" (this is a sneaky catch-all phrase that works with Muslim, Taoist, Christian, Hindu and all other spooks, since thay all have some similar idea of the Good). Then, having amassed all forces around you for service to the "Highest Good", dedicate yourself and All Your Spirit Helpers to accomplishment of whatever purpose there is by a simple prayer to God, in whatever manner you perceive Her, that states that specific intention. This process does several things. One is that it restores the status of the entities you evoked as beings of Light, since they now are serving God. Second, it clarifies your posture as favorable to them so that they won't suck energy from you through adversarial tactics. Third, it redirects the target of all activities to be outside of you, and of greater importance, so that eventually all these guys will find urgent business elsewhere, as they follow their own paths of growth and development. Finally, it leaves you with your newly developed psychic abilities dedicated to a non-specific, but useful purpose, so that further issues will tend to be redirected. I use very similar methods to get rid of entities in my past life practice. In general, entities are very frightened of being destroyed in an eternal sense, and they react very favorably to being given new and superior options. The idea of shifting gears from bugging you to serving God, however He is understood, is an opportunity for redemption. I'd be interested in how things turn out as time passes. dave |
Title: Re: OUIJA MISTAKE! Post by recoverer on May 1st, 2006 at 11:59am
Dave:
The clearing procedures you outlined make sense to me. Do you know of cases where they have worked? |
Title: Re: OUIJA MISTAKE! Post by recoverer on May 1st, 2006 at 1:38pm
Stephen:
14 entities and all they do is move around objects? Are you certain the shaman is correct? Don't assume the worse because of one person's opinion. This is unlikely, but have you ever sleep walked before? Sometimes people walk in their sleep and move things around. |
Title: Re: OUIJA MISTAKE! Post by dave_a_mbs on May 1st, 2006 at 4:13pm
Recoverer-
I use essentially these same methods when I work with entities that are stuck onto people's psyches when they come to my office for past life work or related types of therapy. Edith Fiori emphasized that the simplest approach is just to talk the bad guys into realizing that they are good guys, and then sending them off into the Light for a rebuild. My original motivation was to see if there was a way to talk with entities, but it seems that we need a human medium for that. Using similar thinking, I've been spending idle moments looking into "spook traps" like in the movie Ghostbusters, but not much luck. The best we can do is simply to provide a temporary resting place, although we can add some psychological influences, and thus far I have no idea whether we could build a machine that would be useful in communication. So, lacking anything else, we fall back on various forms of persuasion that leads to participation in change. The big advantage we have is that spirits have only a single track mind that one-pointedly follows a single idea at a time. What we do is alter the ideas to include growth, and then get them on board. Next, it's off to the Light. Incidently, this is an extremely simple process. If you understand Bruce's methods, then you can use the same ideas to do past life or other types of entity work. d |
Title: Re: OUIJA MISTAKE! Post by Stephen1 on May 3rd, 2006 at 12:37am
Thank you everyone! And, Dave, I'm about to put your "plan" into action. The sleepwalking reasoning is very interesting, although I've never, as far as family, friends, etc. been a sleepwalker. And, it is somewhat coincidental that all the strange happenings occurred immediately after my solo Ouija experience...
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Title: Re: OUIJA MISTAKE! Post by augoeideian on May 3rd, 2006 at 3:15am Stephen,
This is why Ouija and similiar medium methods are dangerous because it is likely that one is contacting the Astral realm only. This is where tricksters dwell and information that is brought back from this realm cannot be relied upon. As well as opening yourself to mischievous, most probably, non-human entities that do not work with God. Interesting work Dave that i hope helps Stephen. i would pray for white light to be wrapped around me and my home. They will soon loose interest when they know they are not going to get much further than the white light. We don't need any mediumship of this sort, ouija etc. for it is not to be trusted. One finds true mediumship in the stillness of oneself. I send light to you Stephen to help dispel these things that are best left alone. Pure White Light. |
Title: Re: OUIJA MISTAKE! Post by mattb1000 on May 3rd, 2006 at 9:39am
On a separate note, I would advise taking your phone and fax number off this post. Up to you of course, but the whole world can see those details 8)
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Title: Re: OUIJA MISTAKE! Post by Stephen1 on May 3rd, 2006 at 4:04pm
wish I knew where my phone and fax were listed...if I did I'd pull them immediatly...ok?
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Title: Re: OUIJA MISTAKE! Post by Stephen1 on May 3rd, 2006 at 4:13pm
wow...now i understand...first post had all my contact info...but you know why? I WAS DESPERATE FOR HELP. Having found my cat's "treats" in the dryer, my remotes aligned perfectly in a litter box, not to mention the heavy feeling of people watching me, among many many other things, I simply wanted some REAL help. Not some random, heard from someone else, safe nomenclature that people pull from their h. than thou "internet persona." I asked for actual help, therefore left the best way to reach me if said help exists. If my personal contact info is an issue with you...then I guess don't use it maybe??? Just a thought.
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Title: Re: OUIJA MISTAKE! Post by mattb1000 on May 4th, 2006 at 6:23am wrote on May 3rd, 2006 at 4:13pm:
No, I only said that for your own protection mate. Im not bothered if you post your details, but a safer way for you would be to ask for people to send you a private message if they can help you. Then you can give them your details if you decide they can be trusted. Wish I could help you but Im not ghost hunter. You should contact that famous ghost detective if you think you can replicate your experiences, im sure he would be very interested. I will look for his name and post it later. |
Title: Re: OUIJA MISTAKE! Post by Stephen1 on May 4th, 2006 at 6:48am
Thank you...and I do apologize if my explanation of the phone number, etc. came across as harsh. After reading it myself it seemed sarcastic and negative. Not my intention. Thank you all for the help. :)
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