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Title: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or ne 1 Post by xsabrinax on Mar 21st, 2006 at 2:06am
Hello, my name is Sabrina. I am seventeen years old, and i am having a problem. An older friend of mine has directed me to you. i do not know much about the afterlife and the unknown,
but there is something disturbing in my room, and no one will beleive me or help me. i am not afraid, but extremely effected by it, to the point that i cannot sleep in my room anymore. it opens the doors, when i sleep i feel something crawling over me and almost about to ... do something to my neck. when this happens i cannot wake up... but my eyes are open. i feel paralyzed. its freaks me out. it also pokes at my feet and sometimes i wake up thinking someone is there, like my momn, and i scream out " What!!" and then realize nothing is there... i never seeee it, but i hear it and feel it. once i was sleeping and i thought my cat was in the room, knocking things over. but when i woke up fully, i realized i was comepletely alone. i stood up, and then was sent into wat looked like a seizure... i dont know wat that was about... it didnt hurt but my body was spasming... I am desperate to know what it is. i am curious, open minded and .... that is bad because i am too vulnerable, and unable to say no to certain things. this thing bothers me tho i talk to it like a friend sometimes, hoping to... make it like me instead of trying to kill me or something. please help me. today i talked to a guy and he said he knew it was a demon or wat he called Incubis, and it was trying to rape me or something... im so .... disturbed by that. i dont know wat to do. please help me |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by Spitfire on Mar 21st, 2006 at 5:14am
I would take your phone number off sabrina... not a good idea to post it openly on the net mate.
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Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by LightR_on on Mar 21st, 2006 at 5:16am
Sabrina,
I wanted to ask you, have you had other psychic event in your life? Or are these the first experiences for you? |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by juditha on Mar 21st, 2006 at 5:26am
Hi Sabrina There is no way that this spirit is going to hurt you or rape you .It cannot hurt you physically it can make things move about but thats about it . When you go to bed say this prayer DEAR FATHER GOD PLEASE SURROUND ME WITH YOUR PROTECTION OF LOVE AND LIGHT THANKYOU FATHER AMEN. When you do this think in your mind of this beautiful white light shimmering round your whole body . Try not to be frightened Sabrina just because its there does not mean its evil . i have had things happen to me sometimes but i just say my prayer of protection . God bless juditha
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Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by juditha on Mar 21st, 2006 at 5:38am
Hi Sabrina whoever told you this spirit is a demon that is going to rape you is talking a load of crap . dont beleive it . God bless juditha
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Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by Jambo on Mar 21st, 2006 at 6:08am wrote on Mar 21st, 2006 at 5:38am:
I agree totally with what Juditha says, this ain't nightmare on elm street, things dont appear out of walls to "abuse" you, believe me Sabrina you have nothing to worry about. |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by deanna on Mar 21st, 2006 at 6:13am
Hi sabrina i,m so sorry you are going through something like this it must be really frightening i dont think for one minute its a demon i think its just a michievious spirit ,juditha is right say your prayer of protection and also say in a strong voice YOU ARE NOT OF THE LIGHT GO AWAY I COMMAND YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST GO AWAY NOW this spirit cannot physically hurt you try not to be afraid easier said than done i know ,who was it who told you it was a demon ? love and light god bless sabrina i will say a prayer of protection for u as well deanna
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Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by Bud_S on Mar 21st, 2006 at 12:20pm wrote on Mar 21st, 2006 at 2:06am:
I can understand you can't sleep in your room anymore, but don't abandon your turf too quickly. The advantage of staying in your room is that the surroundings are familiar and safe. You wouldn't want to express this problem to the wrong person, and they propose something you "can't say no to," like staying somewhere else, out of your house. Often when something terrrible happens, it results from a chain of events that begins with a decision that seems small and obviously best. So, it's my opinion that you not leave your room unless it's too an equally safe place in your own house or with someone your entire family knows and trusts. Next, those here that say it can't hurt you are not only backed up by a lot of knowledge, but also by the complete lack of evidence for attacks by unseen entities. The fear of it hurting you is more likely to hurt you than actual harm from an unseen entity, which as someone pointed out, is largely the stuff of movies. Commanding it to go away sounds like a good plan, whether in the name of Jesus or the spiritual power player of your choice. The point is to show yourself and it that you aren't going to be picked on. Reclaim your room, take charge, that sort of attitude could go a long way to getting rid of it. Personally, I wouldn't bother talking to it like a friend anymore. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but trying to make it like yourself could get really confusing and difficult, when all you really need is get a some peace and sleep. Now obviously you know some of this could be your mind getting carried away, but it doesn't really matter, because the solutions are the same. Lastly, I noticed you didn't mention talking to your parents? Why not? Rather than only telling friends of your problems, you might consider bringing the parents into this, trusting one of both of them. While friends are the easiest to talk to, parents have way way more experience and can often offer solutions and comfort. I would be sure to tell them of anything like you described as "seizures or spasms" - they would want to know that. One or both may have had similar things happen to them. Anyway, just a thought. Good luck. let us know how it's going. Don't give out email or phone numbers! |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by Black_Napkins on Mar 21st, 2006 at 12:20pm wrote on Mar 21st, 2006 at 2:06am:
A few of the things you saw here sound a bit like episodes of Sleep Paralysis. The first time i had it, i was extremely scared, i thought i was being molested by two shadowy figures, but i couldn't move. I've come to now almost look forward to Sleep Paralysis now that i know more about it, because i sometimes have heavy vibrations (what you might think of as seizures, it almost seems like it) and sometimes followed by a breif OBE. I no longer have fear of the presence felt, because i know it's not real, only a manifestation of my own creation. Or this could be a serious problem, i don't know the full details. I've just recently felt the closest thing I would call a demonic pressence, but i'm still not sure if it was a fabrication of my mind or a real entity. Regardless it was scary...but I haven't been able to recreate this event, so i must go with the latter. Anyway, good luck, I would however read up a bit on Sleep Paralysis. |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by your_mum on Mar 21st, 2006 at 1:32pm
sabrina, remember that fear is a manifest of our minds. if you imagine there is no reason to be scared, you will not be scared. ;)
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Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by recoverer on Mar 21st, 2006 at 1:35pm
Since you can't tell what the presence is, the best thing to do would do as others say and pray to God and ask for help.
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Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by LightR_on on Mar 21st, 2006 at 4:48pm
To Sabrina's Mum, you need to help your daughter here, she has a presence in her room that will not leave just through some positive thoughts!
Tell her not to have sex, I don't know if she is active but this is some thing she must not partake in at this time. Go and purchase a book on ritual cleansing, in this type of book there will be a cleansing ritual to do with salt use the salt and water through the four corners of the room, do this together with your daughter as she will feel the presence leave her room after and this will settle her soul down again. Please do not disregard what I have just told you, these entity's do exist and it is your job here to assist your daughter for you are her guardian. through contracted agreement when you brought her to this earth plane. |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by dave_a_mbs on Mar 21st, 2006 at 7:39pm
Hi Sabrina-
Sounds like you are just beginning to experience your own rather impressive psychic ability. There are ways to stabilize everything and to make it work for you. First, the basic rule to all this is to just be yourself, and have faith in being yourself. If you fuss and fret enough you can transfer enough of your own power to whatever this is that's bugging you that it can be a real nuisance. It takes a lot of effort, but it is possible if you allow yourself to brood and ruminate long enough. The solution is to realize that all of us are the products of one Creator, including the ones who think of themselves as spooks, spirits, haunts or whatever. The difference is that the ones that feel they have to be annoying are usually trerrified of being exterminated by an angry God. In actual fact, God loves them too. By recognizing that you may be dealing with a terrified spirit of some kind, it becomes possible to feel compassion, loving kindness, and unconditional acceptance of them, just like anyone else who has a severe handicap - like their body fell off and it scared them. The easiest way to get rid of entities is usually to get help from someone who is experienced in sending them off into the Light. (Check the IARRT website for a referral.) Bruce's books deal with earthbound spirits who don't always recognize that they've died, and will give you some ideas. His "Home Study" (book 5) might help too. I liked it. However, if you are going to do this yourself, the point is to let them know that instead of being imperfect and dependent as they cling to you, trying to scare you so that they can have a wee bit of power, there is a wonderful spirit world prepared for them, and in the spirit world, which we usually call the Light, they will have all their wishes granted. God loves them, and they will be healed if they are willing to go there and have a look. Or you can send them to me and they can ride along with me if they don't want to go into the Light right away. I'll send them there anyway. Notice that these are in no way negative, hostile, aggressive or harmful ideas. Instead, the thing that is needed is love, acceptance, underrstanding and a little toleration. From a compassionate perspective, you can dialog with them and lend a sympathetic ear to their issues. Set your boundaries. It is inappropriate to molest you, to scare you, or to hassle you so that you can't sleep. Say so. Then offer to dialog, help and assist at an appropriate time when you can spend a half hour meditating etc. That regains your power, and stabilizes their world as well. If you still have the same issues, get some rock salt and some rubbing alcohol, put in a metal dish and place that on a ceramic plate. Offer a prayer for the well being of the annoying infuences, and that they will go into the Light to retun to the love of God. Then burn some alcohol over the salt crustal. This clears the air by filling it with ions. You can also put small dishes of salt in the corners of the room. Many professionals use this to clear the spooks out of their spacve after doing a depossession. The basic truth is that you are alive and have all the power. Nothing can touch you without your permission, although thinking "I am in danger and I am afraid" is the equivalent of giving permission. So accept that you are OK for the moment, and that nothing non-material can bother you. In my profession, I do lots of entity depossessions and past ife work etc. I'd be glad to work with you (at no charge) if appropriate. I'm available for questions etc if needed. love dave |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by Kyo_Kusanagi on Mar 22nd, 2006 at 8:45am
Dave, there have been many instances in the past, and there will be many instances in the future, whereby others like Sabrina, struggling with similar problems, will be desperately seeking advice from forum to forum on the internet.
For these individuals, the fear and suffering can be rather pronounced, and the potential help for themselves as well as the extraphysical intruders (who are really the ones crying out for help), should they have the opportunity to receive good advice from releasement therapists such as yourself, cannot be understated. Might I suggest that you include as your signature (on this and other internet forums you visit), a sentence or two along the lines of "If you know anyone who might be experiencing spirit haunting, possession or other intrusion difficulties, visit my website here (hyperlink here to Dave's website) for some free advice on what to do." Then, the hyperlink would point directly onto a section of your website that includes the excellent advice you've just given to Sabrina, as well as hyperlinks to the other IARRT websites for the list of spirit releasement therapists who could help. ----------------------------------------- Finally, for the other readers of this thread, I'll like to point out that the International Academy of Consciousness (IAC) also offers courses and training (different courses available for both laypersons and professional practitioners) on Consciential Therapy (CT), which includes the principles that Spirit Releasement Therapy (SRT) works with. |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by dave_a_mbs on Mar 23rd, 2006 at 12:13am
Thanks Kyo - as usual, good advice.
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Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by Kyo_Kusanagi on Mar 23rd, 2006 at 2:48am wrote on Mar 23rd, 2006 at 12:13am:
Dave, I've also included a link on my website here, to your MBS clinic, for the sake of those who may be seeking advice. http://infinity.usanethosting.com/Heart.Of.God/main.htm#SRT Here's towards a better tomorrow for everyone, in love of humanity, in love for all the cosmos. |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by morekoolbooks on Mar 26th, 2006 at 4:33am
sabrina:
This is just to alert you to the fact that you are being abused by Incubus! Most of the people on this site give advice, but how many of them have actually experienced attacks by discarnate entitied? I have been fighting Succubus on and off for the past twenty years. I win some and lose some. One thing I do know, though, is that an entity cannot go through an electrical field. For temporary relief, get youself an electric bed pad and an electric blanket. Keep them turned on low. It is like wire to to them: They can bend it, but cannot get through it! Heed the advise of using salt in the four corners of your room, and of rock salt on which you burn rubbing alcohol on a ceramic base. That, however, is only good for your room. When you leave it, it may follow you as it gets stronger. Think it out of your existence! Deny its existence. Do this over a three week period and you will probably get rid of it. Should you still want advice by one who has been there, and even wrote a book about it, contact me on this site, or the paranoid phenomena site. I am always glad to pass on what knowledge I have acquired in the past twenty years. More... |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by Spitfire on Mar 26th, 2006 at 10:32am
if you throw pepper instead of salt, it will make them snease so bad, that they cannot come anywhere near you.
i would also advise smashing a few mirrors, killing a few black cats, and walking under a ladder. If you can survive these challenges, you should be pretty much indestructable to superstitions. |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by morekool on Mar 26th, 2006 at 4:19pm
Tasteless humor Spitfire. The girl is agonizing over a very real situation, whether you believe in it or not! :-/
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Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by Spitfire on Mar 26th, 2006 at 6:06pm wrote on Mar 26th, 2006 at 4:19pm:
It's not the dead that do you harm, it's the living. Fighting demons, and monsters, sounds like a good movie, but if you look at real life - you will see, theres really no boogie man under your bed. |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by morekool on Mar 26th, 2006 at 6:42pm
I agree: They're never under the bed.:) They tend to cling to one's compassion chakra when they have gained enough power over their victim, and usually they emanate from a living person, an entity that has been wronged by the afflicted in a previous life.
But why am I telling you all this? you wouldn't understand 'multiples...the personalities of past lives that make a person what they are today' It takes an open mind to give credence to the possibility that one of them might separate from the rest, seeking revenge for a past wrong! What is happening to this girl is the way it starts. ::) More... |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by Spitfire on Mar 26th, 2006 at 6:50pm wrote on Mar 26th, 2006 at 6:42pm:
Well, if they have done wrong to them in a previous life, then they should take whats coming to them, for they deserve it. but, ive heard about fairy's... ive heard about future versions of ones self... ive heard of umpa lumpa's on other planets.. and ive heard of people who are 1000's of years old living right here. But spirits seeking to equal the karma attacking those who wronged them, and being fended off with salt and an electric blanket, really takes the bees wax. |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by morekool on Mar 26th, 2006 at 8:14pm
I met several people afflicted in India. No matter what people believe, it exists. There are the other kinds of attacks, also: Those from discarnate beings that sap energy from a physical person in order to stay on the astral plane instead of moving on when their time comes. In this age of Kali the fabric between the dimensions is weakened considerably allowing much more of this activity than in other ages.
There is a plus to it also: One aspiring to reach Realization (ascend) can do so in this lifetime. But that's another story. More... |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by spooky2 on Mar 26th, 2006 at 9:11pm
Hi morekool & morekoolbooks,
what do you think: If one is good in imagination, could this one use it instead of physical means to shield oneself from these attacks? Spooky |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by morekool on Mar 26th, 2006 at 10:25pm
Hi:
Barriers can be built, but unfortunately they seem to last only as long as one imagines them. A lot of psychics suggest one should think white light around and through the body. Again, the same thing applies. If the thing attacking is not attached use the imagination to fill the bedroom with a thick impassable gel. Then do the rest of the house and the exterior surrounding it. For some reason this seems to last for up to 24 hours. Do it often enough and eventually it becomes permanent. The electric blanket/bed pad was brought to my attention on reading Monroe's 'Journey's Out of the Body' when he came in contact with an electric fence and couldn't get through. He backed off, returning to his body. After reading that, I went out and bought the two pieces. They worked great! Still, one can't take them to work. Back to your question: If the imagination is strong enough to really see the barrier forming, it is possible I suppose, to build a longer lasting barrier. Still, I've written several books with imagination, yet mine don't seem to have stopping power. More... |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by morekoolbooks on Mar 27th, 2006 at 2:51am
Check these two out through your search engine, Sabrina.
Toby Alexander Carol Hathor SoulWisdom Energy Transformation More... |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by morekoolbooks on Mar 27th, 2006 at 3:51am
You could be right! Or, she wasn't getting info that she could use, so backed off.
Some people do play games to start a thread and then sit back and laugh, but she did seem sincere. She also posted her problem on the Paranoid Phenomena Site. We'll just have to wait and see. More... |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by spooky2 on Mar 27th, 2006 at 10:30pm
Thanks morekool for the reply, gives me something to think about and to check it out.
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Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by morekool on Mar 28th, 2006 at 1:03am
You're welcome.
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Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by morekool on Mar 29th, 2006 at 3:58am
Dave:
I have to disagree with you on salt, rock salt, and rubbing alcohol. I set the whole thing up this afternoon with negative results. It may work on some entities, but not succubus, or incubus. They seem to be impervious to most things like that. My succubus has turned into a 'grey.' I have fought her on the astral, with the help of an ascended Guru in India, and in other ways. Still, she always manages to reform and return within one to three years. And that is because she emanates from a living being, so her essence simply returns to its body to recuperate, and then comes on strong again. I am having an aura cleanse on the 25th of April, and a karma session on the 8th of May. I hope that will solve the problem! I'm getting weary of it all, and am too old to fight much longer. But I will to the end! I wish the salt, etc., had worked though. At least, then, my bedroom would have been a safe haven at night. Anyway, back to the Atavan, and brandy. The vibrations that the combinations set up keeps her away while I sleep. Keep helping people. Okay? Morekool... PS: I think Sabrina is a fake. |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by dave_a_mbs on Mar 29th, 2006 at 3:36pm
OK Morekool-
You're right, salt, silver and blue flame tend to dissipate spirits, not embodiments. My suggestion would be to set up a few mirrors, sort of reflecting into one another to lead off to infinity, and to label one of them, "I reflect the Good, the rest remains forever with me." and stick it with a black (purifying) candle in an appropriate place. I've quit guessing about sho is "fake", who exaggerates, and who is simply perplexed. Under everything we say there lies a core of belief that can, at least potentially, bring us into contact with strange and exotic worlds. And I occasionally get someone in my practice who started by using chemicals to pry open the inner windows, and now has flies coming in as well. (I came from that era half a century back.) The short solution is simply a brush fire fix. The long solution, which can be proven mathematically, is to seek "sat-chit-ananda", meaning setting up a state of total accord with the flow of reality so that we can surf over it, and now try to always buck the tide. My therapy practice emphasizes this as the only provable goal for all forms of therapy, but it seems so trivial that most people overlook it. (I have a book on Developmental Psychopathology: A PQR State Space Approach at Amazon if you want more of the theory.) It's based on field work. How did you get hooked up with a succubus anyhow? |
Title: Re: Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!To Bruce Moen or n Post by morekool on Mar 29th, 2006 at 10:28pm
Hi, Dave:
I'll try the mirror thing, but this one is no longer a 'Succubus'. She is simply demonic. She is grey, completely hairless, genderless, yet exudes femininity. The kicker is, she was my wife's daughter by a good friend. We all have one such good friend.:) Also, when I fought her on the astral she wore my wife's daughter's face. I traveled 2400 miles to help the girl when she was having marital and financial diffulties back in 1985. On the way back from Montreal I stopped at a nearby city to meet a pen pal relative by marriage. This lady lived to go astral. It was her whole life. When I left the next morning she said she wished she was going with me. I told her, with a grin, to come on the astral. To make this short, not only did she appear in the car 17 hours later, but so did my wife's daughter. It sounds like a bizzare tale, I know, but the two came with me to Calgary, fighting with each other all the way! I was glad to get rid of them when they finally faded out of my existence. Then, one returned. I'd be walking down the street when, suddenly, A tingly hand would slip into mine. Or the same tingly sensation would be felt suddenly sitting on my lap at home or in a car. I didn't know which of the two it was for a long time. When the nastiness began I searched out methods that might help. I even went to an ashram in India where I finally got rid of it for a time. Anyway, I found a few helpful tricks by reading books such as Robert Monroe's 'Journeys Out of the Body', and using holy water helped, but only in the area she's working on at the time. If I go any further I'll be writing the whole book all over again.:) Narcotics, such as Atavan, etc., help, especially if taken with a hefty shot of alcohol. However, this should only be done before going to bed. The electric blanket and bed pad work also, as they cannot go through an electrical field. They can, however, bend it like wire, so the blanket must be wrapped tight around one, which could prove dangerous. As it is my belief that both Succubus/Incubus emanate from living, physical people, they can't be killed on the astral: their energy simply disipates, returns to its multipiles, gains in strength as time passes, and then returns to attack again. I killed mine in a previous life. Now she's getting even. That's why she used my ex-wife as a portal to come into my family. The friend, btw, hung himself shortly after her birth. I'm too old to get into books looking for possible solutions now. Instead I write to keep the mind fertile...PODs of course. Thanks for asking. More... |
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