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Message started by Kyo_Kusanagi on Mar 20th, 2006 at 6:36am

Title: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by Kyo_Kusanagi on Mar 20th, 2006 at 6:36am
This post is, in particular, for Craig, who has expressed some interest in the subject of Atlantis (not everyone incarnate today on Earth have had lifetimes on Atlantis, but a significant proportion, especially amongst the more spiritually minded, do).

Charles Breaux, a very capable clairvoyant who does Past Life Readings, had this to say about Atlantis (including its destruction), during one of his Readings :

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Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by Spitfire on Mar 20th, 2006 at 7:18am
Thanks alot kyo.

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by Kyo_Kusanagi on Mar 20th, 2006 at 8:48am
No problem at all, Craig.  :)

Charles Breaux makes mention of Atlantis (and Lemuria) in quite a number of his Readings, in addition to this one. You might like to read through his other Readings, for more info on Atlantis from Charles' perspective on the subject.

http://infinity.usanethosting.com/Heart.Of.God/WayOfKarma/

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by Lucy on Mar 20th, 2006 at 1:06pm
This is interesting. Who is Charles Breaux ?

Does he talk about the current age the same way he talks about Atlantis? I mean, who's looking over our shoulder?

So does greed etc. not exist in other realms?

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by Lucy on Mar 21st, 2006 at 6:08pm
This book is somewhat interesting.

Are we the only planet where greed and ruthlessness exist? Is that some consequence of the kind of conciousness or material forms we have here?

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by mattb1000 on Mar 21st, 2006 at 6:12pm
So where was Atlantis geographically?

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by Spitfire on Mar 21st, 2006 at 6:27pm
it's said to be beyond the pillars of hercules, which basically means in the atlantic, kyo does'nt have a specific idea of were exactly it is, although it's thought to be near bimini in the carribean.

it's never come up during a hillarion reading, but kyo says, you can probley get a more exact location if you got a session.

i always thought atlantis to be a myth, but after reading kyo's website, plus some other source's it becomes easier to believe it might have, i always imagined atlantis being huge, like the size of america with a huge population, but from what ive read it was quite small, and the time scales allow for the earth to sufficently change and cover up any remains..

still alot of questions linger though.

edit, it's abit werid also that the atlantic, is very similar to atlantis... anyone know how/who and why the atlantic was named the atlantic....

Title: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by hiorta on Mar 21st, 2006 at 6:39pm
From a declining memory, weren't the 'Pillars of Hercules' the Western end of the Mediterranean Sea - Gibralter and the part of North Africa, immediately across the narrow entrance to the Med.?

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by Spitfire on Mar 21st, 2006 at 6:52pm

wrote on Mar 21st, 2006 at 6:39pm:
From a declining memory, weren't the 'Pillars of Hercules' the Western end of the Mediterranean Sea - Gibralter and the part of North Africa, immediately across the narrow entrance to the Med.?


yup it sure is, leading straight into the atlantic.

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by augoeideian on Mar 22nd, 2006 at 8:24am
Hi!

Yes Atlantis was situated in the Atlantic ocean between East Coast of America and the West coast of Africa.  The High Land being the entrance from Gibralter.  The Azores Island is the remaining part of Atlantis seen today.  

It was a pretty big continent (sorry no km figure here) with what they called the Low Land in the South and the High Land in the North.

High civilisation was Atlantis - they had aeroplanes, submarines, nuclear power, energy fields for medicine and more ...

:)


Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by Kardec on Mar 22nd, 2006 at 10:23am
The whole story was told here:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1589394550/qid=1143037369/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-4192590-3815322?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

This book is the first of seven, but I'm not sure if the later ones were published in English.

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by Lucy on Mar 22nd, 2006 at 12:28pm
don't know if i take the info in bro' Breaux's book quite literally but the theme level certainly is interesting. Has anyone here gotten information on themselves like this and how did it affect you?

dahoui's book is fiction, which doesn't make it wrong

In looking for the origin of "Atlantic", I came across this on the Celtic myth of Hy Brasil. I never heard of this before. I thought it was Tir Na Nog...

I never thought about the possibility of a relationship between Tir Na Nog and Atlantis before...

http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/brazil.htm

encarta says "Atlantic" is derived from "Atlas". I guess you'd have to look at alot of those old maps with "Beware of dragons" notes to see the history of the names

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761574942/Atlantic_Ocean.html

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by Lucy on Mar 22nd, 2006 at 2:52pm
so, in the book, for the reading for Gary, there is mention of a time in Egypt around 2000 BC. It says that "..the prehistorical esoteric theocracy has been secularized. The Pharoah is now worshipped as a god and the religious life ogf the culture is no longer guided by the higher-dimensional beings who originally established it.  Many of the religious ideas and symbols still remain, but their true meaning has been lost, altered, or confused with the new mythologies...."
http://infinity.usanethosting.com/Heart.Of.God/WayOfKarma/CharlesBreaux_WayOfKarma_22_23.gif


so assuming this is correct, why if these beings came, why did they lose guidance of the Egyptian religion? What is really being played out here?


Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by Kardec on Mar 23rd, 2006 at 1:36pm
The myth of Atlantis and the biblical story about being outcaste of paradise have much to do with a natural evolutionary process called “interplanetary spirits migration”.

When the human society in a given planet reaches the necessary level of evolution to take a step into a peaceful society due to the normal progress track, it’s time to start kind of a cleaning process at the astral realm. It’s done by locating at the astral the spirits that are not compatible with the new age that is coming and transporting them to a planet where the evolutionary level is lower.

What happens there (at the new planet) is that unconsciously they will feel the need of building around them a society that fits the one they seem to be looking for, some place they can’t recall but they deeply feel they belong to (the lost paradise).  Such process gives them a new chance in order to try to modify their feelings and at same time is an important “trigger” to a new evolutionary step to the humanity that was already at the primitive planet. Usually it happens when it's good to booth the spirits who were sent to the primitive planet and the ones that were almost stopped at the evolutionary process in the primitive planet.

It happened here 5700 years ago and the unconscious memories of the ones who came from another planet (in spirit) were the starting point of such legends.

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by Kardec on Mar 24th, 2006 at 9:21am
When a student can't go ahead because he did not passed the exans he can't stand among they felows and he lose the year  - The same happens with interplanetary migrations you go to a group that is at the same "moral" level than you and there you try again and your experience is helpfull to the ones that are atending to that "school year" for the fist time. Atlantis was located in other planet not here.  It's hard to to explais it in English cause it's not my native labguage also it's not my culture.

Albert Paul Dahoui's book is a fiction based in real informations come from the spiritual word about such subject. I've found the same information at sevreal diferents sources. So I'm sure that it is real.

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by Kardec on Mar 24th, 2006 at 12:44pm
ParanoidAndroid


It seems to me that your dream was kind of a menmory from the time you lived in the planet Atlantis befere being sent to hearth it’s normal and many people around the world has such “feeling” of a far way time and place. Some have dreams and others just feel it and can’t expla.in it

PS: Of course there were another planets and another migration but tehy were like individual history it wasn't thousands or millios of beings like it happened with Atlantis and the earth.

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by augoeideian on Mar 25th, 2006 at 4:18am
Kardec - yo very interesting.

ParanoidAndriod your dream sounds like a past life memory recall, either of yourself or someone you knew very well. Or the possibility may be explored that it is an 'real time' event. ie you are being taken to a place to be shown (or rather i believe, the place comes to you) This is a discerning of dreams - some dreams are picture memory recalls or some dreams (although they cant be called a dream now, rather a travel) are a vision.

Normally the travel dream is much more intense and leaves a lasting impression on the person.  These travels are normally (my experience) accompained by an guide who takes you there to show you something (or brings it to you rather)

The female in your dream/travel could have been your guide; even your twin soul.  My guide(s) are normally, what is called Familiars, and are animals; a cheetah; white panther and a white owl.

So ParanoidAndriod here you need to discern what you saw and the Earth that you saw might have been a past life memory (Atlantis should not be ruled out) or it is a future Earth that may be shown to you.  If you focus on this vision, whether past or future, and ask for your guide to be with you - you will go there again and the image should get stronger with this focus.

What do you think ParanoidAndroid?

Atlantis ...

Atlantis was a definite continent in our earth  - a high spiritual continent true it was - but nevertheless it was grounded on Earth. And before the history of Atlantis may be told we need to go further back into the past to that continent called Lemuria and the phenomena of The Precession of the Equinox ....

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by augoeideian on Mar 25th, 2006 at 9:21am
The Precession of the Equinox – The wild celestial dance
(Graham Hancock – Fingerprints of the Gods; explains it so well)

But if anyone hasn’t read of it or knows (!) -
The earth makes a complete circuit around its own axis once every twenty four hours and has an equatorial circumference of 24,902.45 miles. Viewed from outer space, looking down on the North Pole, the direction of rotation is anti-clockwise.
While spinning daily on its own axis, the earth also orbits the sun (again anti-clockwise) on a path that is slightly elliptical rather than completely circular.
It pursues this orbit at truly breakneck speed, travelling as far along it in an hour – 66,600 miles.  This means we are hurtling through space at the rate of 18.5 mile every second!

The earth’s axis of rotation is titled in relation to the plane of its orbit (23.5 deg to the vertical) This tilt, which causes the seasons, ‘points’ the North Pole.  The earths tilt is referred as its ‘obliquity’ and the plane of its orbit is known as the ‘ecliptic’ which extends outwards to form a great circle in the celestial sphere.
There is also the ‘celestial equator’ which is an extension of the earth’s equator into the celestial sphere.

The celestial equator is today inclined at about 23.5 deg to the ecliptic, because the earth’s axis is inclined at 23.5 deg to the vertical.  This angle, termed the ‘obliquity of the ecliptic’ is not fixed and immutable for all time.  So our planet nods and spins while soaring along its orbital path.  The orbit takes a year and the spin takes a day and the nod has a cycle of 41,000 years.

The suns gravitational pull on our planet is immense as well as the gravity of the other planets with which we share in our solar system.  The moon’s gravity tends to tilt the earth’s axis so that it becomes perpendicular to the moon’s orbit, at the same time the equatorial bulge – the extra mass distributed around the equator – acts like the rim of a gyroscope to keep the earth steady on its axis.

Year in, year out, on a planetary scale, it is this gyroscopic effect that prevents the tug of the sun and the moon from radically altering the earth’s axis of rotation.  The pull these two bodies jointly exert is however, sufficiently strong to force the axis to ‘precess’, which means that it wobbles slowly in a clockwise direction opposite to the earth’s spin.

Ringed around the earth’s ecliptic orbit, in a starry belt that extends approx 7 deg north and south, are the twelve constellations of the zodiac.  These constellations are irregular in size, shape and distribution.  Nevertheless their spacing around the rim of the ecliptic is sufficiently even to bestow a sense of cosmic order upon the diurnal risings and settings of the sun.

To picture this 1. mark a dot in the centre of a sheet of paper 2. draw a circle around the dot about half an inch away from it 3. enclose that circle in a second larger, circle.

The dot represents the sun.  The smaller of the two circles represents the earths orbit.  The larger circle represents the rim of the ecliptic.  Around the perimeter of this larger circle, therefore, twelve boxes should be drawn.  Since there are 360 deg in a circle, each constellation can be considered to occupy a space of 30 deg along the ecliptic.  The earth travels on its ecliptic orbit in an anti-clockwise direction, from the west towards the east, and every twenty four hours it also makes one complete rotation around its own axis (again west to east)

Each day as the earth turns from west to east, the sun (which is of course of fixed point) appears to ‘move’ across the sky from east to west.
Roughly every thirty days, as the spinning earth journeys along its orbital path around the sun, the sun itself slowly appears to ‘pass’ through one after another of the twelve zodiacal constellations (which are also fixed points) and again it appears to be ‘moving’ in an east-west direction.

The four cardinal points of the year – the spring and autumn equinoxes, the winter and summer solstices are pointers to the earth’s ecliptic path. Most significant of all was the constellation in which the sun was observed to rise on the morning of the spring (or vernal) equinox.  Because of the earth’s axial precession, the ancients discovered that this constellation was not fixed or permanent for all time but that the honour of ‘housing’ or ‘carrying’ the sun on the day of the vernal equinox circulated – very, very slowly – among all the constellations of the zodiac.

The sun’s position amongst the constellations at the vernal equinox was the pointer that indicated the ‘hours’ of the precession cycle – very long hours indeed, the equinoctial sun occupying each zodiacal constellation for almost 2125 years. Therefore a full procession cycle of the sun going through each of the twelve zodiac constellations takes approx 26,000 years.

Now, there is evidence of great universal cataclysm that is linked to taking place after each procession cycle of the sun; after 26,000 years – it is called a Great Year.  Here, after a great year, there is a shift of the earth’s polar axis. It is an adjustment to the earth’s orbit on its axis – to keep the earth on its path.

There is further evidence that the after each procession cycle of the sun; after 2125 years – the Age of the constellation the sun is in – there is a cataclysm that takes places – in the form of earthquakes and other natural catastrophes.

There is reason to believe that the destruction of Lemuria and later of Atlantis was after a Great Year cycle.  Further is the Nod cycle of 41,000 years. A Solar Year.


Phew .. well i’ll stop here … I can hear you saying ‘but we learnt this a school’  lol  :)
I just think it’s good to know that our planet earth is in cycles that have ordered motion for a reason.

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by augoeideian on Mar 27th, 2006 at 3:54am
Morning ParanoidAndroid  :)

You must be strict with your dreams! a good word to use.  Your impressions of yourself being the female are real to you and so this must be the truth.  Although the matters of the Spiritual world do seem to be complicated to our normal logic - they are in fact Simple and do not lend towards confusing our Spirits.  Calmness and acceptance help steady our nerves that might be climbing the wall right now!

You are right to say that it is very difficult to talk openly about especially to people who are not 'there yet'.  This is why the Spiritual world is often wrapped in silence - it is beyond normal communication and even if you try and talk about it - the words come out all wrong!! This is normal as these matters are deep and go by feeling rather than words.  You are not going mad! You are growing and developing beautifully.

This site is wonderful to express Spiritual feelings as it is our Spirits that can type and not words that come out of our mouths.

So back to your travel/dream ... thousands of worlds ... yes im sure.  But we are not split up into a thousand pieces, we are One operating on different levels keeping our Oneness ....

Yes?

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by augoeideian on Mar 27th, 2006 at 4:47am
ParanoidArnoid :  the words dont come out right because i cant speak english.  lol!!  :) Please excuse english being my only language.

If we go a bit deeper in to this 'many worlds' and 'different people but still myself' the Oneness might be explained further.

Steiner:  before Christ came (i am not sure of your beliefs so please just keep an open mind) when people went to sleep they were terrified that their very soul would be split up into a thousand pieces and scattered over the cosmos.  This was a real fear that most probably did happen.  The last part of sleeping was spent gathering ones soul back to itself.

Christ came as a Guide to be Used in sleep - the Midnight Sun - that looks after you while you sleep.
His Spirit keeps us together on a path, during sleep and during awakeness.

This is a brief summary of a book that explains it much further.  It is sidetracking from your dream a bit but this is the Oneness i spoke about and when you said a thousand places it makes me think of this.

Your views ParanoidAndroid?


Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by augoeideian on Mar 27th, 2006 at 6:54am
Thanks for sharing your honest thoughts. There seems to be the problem of 'orthodox' religion not wanting to share the True Love with all the Children of God.  I would say that you, as a person, and your Spirit, is not being fullfilled enough by this hard teaching that is across every organised religion and nation.

You have It inside you already, you are your own mosque and you are seeking for more. Keep to your own counsel inside you.  Seek guidence and love from whom you preceive to be your God.  We dont need books to tell us this.  

Dont be afraid to seek inner freedom by yourself, it takes the brave to explore.  Alot of orgainised religion rules by fear.  You dont need this fear in your life right now or ever for that matter.

If you ask for help from your Angels; silently in yourself you will sense a change and a belonging to yourself that is very much part of the Love that is here for everybody. You will be able to do this by yourself.

This might explain your dream a bit more - it might be a wish to make a change in your world.  Your world inside yourself - this can happen and it is a beautiful transformation - that has no words!

God wants us to feel him with love and kindness and willingness.  

Your thoughts ParanoidAndroid ...

My love to you  :)

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by Kardec on Mar 27th, 2006 at 9:48am
Paranoiandroid

There is a chapter in the first Bob Monroe’s book “Jorney out of the body” were he went through a VERY similar (real time) situation. To me it remains unexplained due to the fact that I haven’t  read Bob’s second book. I’m sure that some Bob's fan who read his second book can give you some tip about that or tell something about his experience. I read that book in 1992 so it became a little hard to remember all the details.

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by augoeideian on Mar 28th, 2006 at 11:10am
Hi ParanoidAndroid, the Preacher!!

You are so right in saying that we must be ourselves first - this is true freedom.

Upon saying that we must be on the right path though!  This is a simple choice; a good path or a bad path.  

I do think that God wants of us; we were created to be a companion to God. His friend in His likeness.
He also wants us to evolve and grow into the Lightness.

Hey.

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by Kardec on Mar 29th, 2006 at 9:54am
Paranoidandroid

I've spent the last 20 ears trying to understand God and dispite my culture my "world" being totaly different from Augeodian (i live in south america) I've reached the same conclusion and it's not wrote anywere. I've read it in the live's behavior.

Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by augoeideian on Mar 31st, 2006 at 11:06am
Hi ParaniodAndroid & Kardec  :) hows it going?
sorry late reply - busy stretch at work !

exclaimation marks - symbols of expression .. lol.  

Yes honesty is so important to us; we have to live with ourselves, our heart, and one does not want to carry a heart full of remorse.  Even more so when one has felt the Light; it is impossible to be dishonest.  Or rather if one is dishonest one knows it immediately and feels instant shame to oneself.

Our thoughts do become reality.  Bad energies like; negativity and criminal activities etc causes a vibration of earthquakes etc.  One can imagine how good energies can make our world (and heavens) a better place.

ParanoidAndroid thank you for your direct question - i appreciate directness.  I do feel what i wrote about God wanting of us (willingly) i feel it with all my heart that has a bursting with joy feeling all the time; even though my life is totally normally with its ebbs and flows.  I feel at One with Christ and i cherish this very deeply.  This is a sincere statement that does not come from a book ... lol ... it affects me profoundly.  Books on Creation nourish me and Pray sustains me.

im sure you feel the same? we all have love in us even looking at an evening sunset or a flower fills us with joy and wonderment in Creation ...

Kardec i so enjoy your writings ... yes you are right - it is like been struck by a thunder bolt of lightning  :)

Peace and love.


Title: Re: The Destruction of Atlantis
Post by augoeideian on Apr 12th, 2006 at 5:48am
To follow the 'Precession of the Equinox' posting heading towards the destruction of Atlantis:

Way way ago before Atlantis; situated in the Pacific ocean between Asia, Australia, North and South America - with the remaining land today above surface being the Easter Islands and Hawaii, was a continent called Lemuria.

The cradle of existence for the first race of God's creation - Man; the Divine Spark of God - who is to evolve under the guidance of God's Divine ray-children; the son-daughters of God; the Divine Adamics. God choose amongst the Divine ray-children twenty-four son-daughters who were to help him guide the evolving Divine Sparks.

The Divine Sparks; Men at this stage of Earth's evolution were in a more etherealised body. Through long aeons of time the Divine Sparks gradually begun understanding the natural laws of God; yet he is not able to reproduce himself without the Divine authority being given to him by the Divine Adamics.

A certain son of God called Eranus (who with others in charge of the evolving life on Earth, and perceiving that Man is not progressing as fast as he would like) evolves a plan whereby Man can reproduce his kind of his own volition.  This was accomplished by incarnating the Divine Sparks in material mortal sex bodies.

God tells Eranus the folly of teaching Man things that are beyond his state of evolution, and warns him that it will have unfortunate results, whereupon Eranus defies God, thus sidetracking the evolution of Man whose body became gross and bestial, as well as cruel by the instinctive knowledge that he has of wondrous life, taking a keen delight in extinguishing the life in others.

The result was that Eranus’s imperfect knowledge of creation caused the most terrible bodies to be produced.  The outcome was that when God returned to the planet called Earth, he at once became aware that all was not well and as he had ordered.  Eranus of his subtlety had caused an electric envelope to materialise round the world in order that communication with the other spheres should be cut off and his deeds go for a space unrecognised.

His plan was successful in part, except that he had ruled out the power of God, the Father-Mother Adam and Evam, Who had seen Eranus’s misuse of the power of free-will, and the Godhead it was Who warned Adam and his divine twin Eve eternal, to return to the Earth plane.  The sight which awaited the Father was terrible to behold. Our Father commanded Yevah (co Viceroy with Eranus) and Eranus to wait for him in the workshop of Earth, which is the very atmosphere round about Earth, and that part which your bible speak of as heaven, though they really mean the heaven of the material worlds.  Our Father did then seek to reason with Eranus but alas, the more bitter was Eranus calling Him a tyrant and accusing Evam, the beloved twin spouse of Adam, of using her ear unto her male half to her own ends.

Alas, all reason was useless.  Eranus henceforward called Satanaku defied God the Father-Mother and pitted his will against the Divine Will of the Godhead.  He was fully awake to the possibilities of his divine powers, and he intended to use them in any shape or form against those who stood in his path.
Yevah was feeling repentant and fully admitted his fault of helping Eranus trying to speed up the Divine Plan for the evolution of Man.  Yevah was again placed in charge thereof.  But again, whilst our Father-Mother was away visiting those more distant spheres, did Satanaku again persuade Yevah to lend an ear unto him, save this time the consequences were worse and have their results even up to the present time on Earth.

Again Adam and Evam, our Father-Mother returned and Satanaku was now beyond all reason whatsoever, and so was confined to the workshop which henceforward was called the astral region of evil, where his powers of interference were very much curtailed.  The Godhead said unto Adam “I will not destroy evil, neither will I utterly limit the power of Satanaku, for means of that evil which he hath created by the misuse of free-will.  I will cause those Men of Earth to be strengthened by that very evil which has been created by the will of Eranus so the Men of Earth evolve upwards that they may become My children by adoption.  Eranus, who is now Satanaku, together with his co-workers shall be confined to the workshop of Earth, which place shall henceforward be called the astral regions of evil, and he shall remain there until that day shall dawn when he shall again come unto Me seeking pardon at My hands.”

This was the start and end of Lemuria.  Pior to the destruction of Lemuria, the great continent of Atlantis was being prepared for the continuation of Mankind’s upward advancement.

Love.

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