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If a group of people die, say in a bus accident, do these people ascend into the afterlife together spiritually? -Just a curiosity, THX for any feedback!

Personally, I would doubt it very much.
Although it has long before been preplanned how and when the individuals would die I think the ascent of the spirit/soul would very much depend on their beliefs while here on earth in the physical.
Among mass deaths there would be an enormous range of the way people had led their lives. There could be very spiritual people, total non-believers in the Afterlife, rapists, crooks, etc., etc. To me their spirit/souls would ascend the the appropriate focus level, with many having to go to the resting/rejuvenation centre while others could go directly to higher focus levels.
Finally, as time is meaningless in the Afterlife the ascent would be very swift indeed.

roger :)

Hi MarD Iread this story about a Jewish man who died in the gas chambers in the war .He came to this medium and told him of his experience of dieing in there.
He was in the gas chamber with lots of Jewish people including children . He said as he and the people died there spirits were rising up together and towards this beautiful light and as he looked down he said that all there physical bodies looked like a load of rags laying on the floor.
God bless juditha

wrote on Mar 13^th, 2006 at 7:50am:

by gosh Juditha I think that's the most intriguing medium story you've posted yet! It is interesting and very visual.

On the topic as a whole, i'm reminded of a story I read about a hole opening in the sky above the Pentagon on 9/11 followed by a bright light ascending from the plane when it was about to impact. I didn't know what to make of it, but the author's point was that the spirits actually left their bodies prior to impact, since death was inevitable, thus sparing them pain. Anybody see that one? I wish I could remember where I saw it. I guess what made it interesting to me was that if they all left together, it potentially points to higher power manipulation (and how often does the sky open up?), rather than individuals, unless we're so interconnected we already knew what to do??... Anyway, it's a great question MarD.

Then what about the people who jumped from the towers after the planes hit on 9/11 did there spirits leave before they hit the ground?

I do not think that those who fell from the towers were "taken" before they hit the ground because it was their own free wills that influenced them to jump in the first place. They could have not jumped and died from smoke inhalation or something other, however those to be killed by the initial impact of the planes, might have been. Seems logical.

Possibly so but they could have went mad from being so close to the explosion... burnt horribly, ears shattered, and blind or just in a insane state of mind from having a jet explode right next to them, maybe they jumped because of that who knows.

The only ones who do actually know are them themselves. Great reasoning, Shawn.

-Best wishes, Mario

I read your artical Bud_S, sounds real but why wouldnt more situations be documented all through out time, like in wars or excutions of innocents, ect. Or the current group bombings in Iraq, ect.?

When people pass over whether separately or in groups, they will still go to areas that they resonate with.

Love, Mairlyn

wrote on Mar 14^th, 2006 at 1:09pm:

I read your artical Bud_S, sounds real but why wouldnt more situations be documented all through out time, like in wars or excutions of innocents, ect. Or the current group bombings in Iraq, ect.?

That was my feeling as well. I guess the implication explained more thoroughly in the book it was excerpted from was that this woman had unique capabilities because of her (holding breath...) "alien abduction experience." I try to keep an open mind when reading stuff like this. I've never seen an alien, a real orb, or anything like this woman has, but if she saw it, even if it wasn't really what she thought it was, I still find it worth learning about.

I think maybe her "interpreter" interferred a bit with her "observer," as you'd expect, but somewhere in all that is an interesting experience with real phenomenon. I liked the way at the end the Worley guy describes humans as blind slugs with regard to their ability to observe this kind of thing around them. Living in a part of the world with a lot of slugs I laughed because I'm sure they really don't see me when I cruise by at relative warp speed.

wrote on Mar 13^th, 2006 at 2:32am:

If a group of people die, say in a bus accident, do these people ascend into the afterlife together spiritually? -Just a curiosity, THX for any feedback!

MarD,

I would say that what you are asking about is group or mass retrieval. There's a story in one of my books about an earthquake in India in which some 68,000 people died. Helpers set up nonphysical relief camps to assist in transferring large numbers of the deceased to an afterlife area. The deceased didn't realize they'd died and arrived at these camps in ones and twos or larger groups. By the nature of the way the relief camps were set up new arrivals were led to making the trip to an afterlife area where other helpers gave further assistance.

So, in some cases folks "ascend into the afterlife" together, as you put it. But the beliefs held by each individual are the most powerful force in any after death situation. An indivdual's beliefs may cause them to make choices that lead them away from the group and to a different afterlife area, or to stay 'near the bus' so to speak.

Bruce

I would tend to think death is a more personal thing even if dying in a group you would think you would have your own personal private death process rather than some public convention type. I dont know though.

Shawn_michael, it's true, but before the personal death experience can take place one must REALIZE it.
There are some relating sort of retrievals in the retrieval section of this board concerning hurricane Catrina.
Spooky

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anyway, i am an oriental person...

Out of curiosity, what is your nationality or ethnicity?

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you? are from japan? it is strange there many people here from all over the place..

Though my nickname is indeed Japanese, I'm from Singapore.

That's the remarkable beauty of the internet, allowing for a quantum leap in communications networking for the entire human race.

The guides & helpers were also rather pleasantly surprised at first at how rapidly the internet technology changed the human landscape, and now themselves make the most of the internet in their guiding work with those in the intraphysical (eg. subtly guiding various individuals to various forums, interactions and acquaintances facilitated via the internet, the guides & helpers' own indirect participation in forum discussions, etc).

Indeed, the internet, together with other major technological advances, are important reasons why the average intraphysical lifetime on Earth now, is far, far, far more important than the average lifetime hundreds and thousands of years ago. This holds true for everyone.

And the reasons for this, is exceedingly simple to intuit. Opportunities to interact meaningfully, to further egokarmic, groupkarmic and polykarmic work, which are basically the very purpose for physical incarnation, are all intimately tied in with interpsonal interactions, and thus the advent of the internet, as well as other significant developments in the communications and transport industry, herald a new age or era, making possible far more extensive interactions, karmic work and consciential evolution.

It is unfortunate that, due to (pre-serenissimus traits of) human greed, politics, corruption and power issues, there is still a large percentage of the human race in the poorer developing countries that do not yet have access to these greatly enhanced opportunities, and even their basic survival is at the mercy of the corrupt.

Did you know, that the technology already exists on Earth to supply abundant resources, food and energy for the *entire* human race, but these technologies have not been shared freely, and have instead been kept as guarded secrets and utilized not only for selfish gains by various governments, organizations and individuals with power issues.

Check out the book :

Disclosure : Military and Government Witnesses Reveal the Greatest Secrets in Modern History

For the first time ever, over five dozen top-secret military,government, intelligence and corporate witnesses to secret projects tell their true stories which disclose the greatest covert program in world history. This explosive testimony by actual government insiders proves that UFOs are real, that some are of extraterrestrial origin and that super-secret programs have energy and propulsion technologies that will enable humanity to begin a new civilization - a civilization without pollution, without poverty - a civilization capable of traveling among the stars. This is not just a story about UFOs, ETs and secret projects: It is the story of how 50 years of human evolution have been deferred and how these secret projects contain the real solution to the world energy crisis, the environmental crisis and world poverty.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0967323819/102-6398179-7229764

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i even hear the cure for cancer is available here on earth but is not made known because it would hinder the money sources for some.

That's right, and totally tragic. The ongoing immeasurable suffering by millions of cancer patients around the world... *shakes head sadly*

The Cancer Cure That Worked :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0919951309/102-6398179-7229764?v=glance&n=283155

Regarding "The Cancer Cure That Worked!", I have made a post on Bruce's "Visitor's Link's Forum" here :

http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=links;action=display;num=1142884120

Many people are incredulous, wondering if such a cure for cancer already exists, why isn't it made more understood or available today? Understanding the history and background info, will be helpful in appreciating the dynamics of the current situation.

The Life & Work of Dr Royal Raymond Rife :
http://www.rense.com/health/rife.htm

Imagine, for a moment, that you have spent more than two decades in painfully laborious research-- that you have discovered an incredibly simple, electronic approach to curing literally every disease on the planet caused by viruses and bacteria . Indeed, it is a discovery that would end the pain and suffering of countless millions and change life on Earth forever. Certainly, the medical world would rush to embrace you with every imaginable accolade and financial reward imaginable. You would think so, wouldnt you?

Unfortunately, arguably the greatest medical genius in all recorded history suffered a fate literally the opposite of the foregoing logical scenario. In fact, the history of medicine is replete with stories of genius betrayed by backward thought and jealously, but most pathetically, by greed and money.

In the nineteenth century, Semmelweiss struggled mightily to convince surgeons that it was a good idea to sterilize their instruments and use sterile surgical procedures. Pasteur was ridiculed for years for his theory that germs could cause disease.
Scores of other medical visionaries went through hell for simply challenging the medical status quo of day, including such legends as Roentgen and his X-rays, Morton for promoting the 'absurd' idea of anaesthesia, Harvey for his theory of the circulation of blood, and many others in recent decades including: W.F. Koch, Revici, Burzynski, Naessens, Priore, Livingston-Wheeler, and Hoxsey.

Orthodox big-money medicine resents and seeks to neutralize and/or destroy those who challenge its beliefs. Often, the visionary who challenges it pays a heavy price for his 'heresy.'

So, you have just discovered a new therapy which can eradicate any microbial disease but, so far, you and your amazing cure aren't very popular. What do you do next? Well, certainly the research foundations and teaching institutions would welcome news of your astounding discovery. Won't they be thrilled to learn you have a cure for the very same diseases they are receiving hundreds of millions of dollars per year to investigate? Maybe not, if it means the end of the gravy train. These people have mortgages to pay and families to support. On second thought, forget the research foundations.

Perhaps you should take your discovery to the pharmaceutical industry; certainly it would be of great interest to those protectors of humanity, right? But remember, you have developed a universal cure which makes drugs obsolete, so the pharmaceutical industry just might be less than thrilled to hear about your work. In fact, the bigshots might even make it certain that your human disease-ending technology never sees the light of day, by preventing it from becoming licensed by the regulatory agencies.

Now, assuming your amazing cure is an electronic instrument, the only cost of using it is electricity. And it is absolutely harmless to patients, who can recover without losing their hair, the family home, and their life savings. So, with your technology, there is no longer any reason for people with cancer to pay over $300,000 per patient -- to become deathly ill from chemotherapy, radiation treatments, and the mutilation of surgery. It sounds like you won't find many friends and support among practicing oncologists, radiologists, and surgeons, doesnt it?

You might try the hospitals and big clinics. But how thrilled are they going to be about a therapy administered in any doctor's office; which reverses illness before the patient has to be hospitalized? Thanks to you, the staffs of these institutions will essentially be out of work.

Well then, how about the insurance companies? Surely, they would be delighted to save the expense of hospitalization - at least the companies which haven't invested in hospitals, where the staff is now sitting around waiting for someone to break a leg or be in a car accident...and the ones who don't lose policyholders as a result of your invention...and the companies which aren't trying to divest their pharmaceutical stock. Oh well, forget the insurance companies, too.

It looks like you just might have a little problem with the medical establishment, no?

Probably the only friends you'll have will be the patients and those progressive doctors who see change as an opportunity, rather than a threat to their established money-making monopoly. Those people will love you. But they don't call the shots.

What follows, now, is the story of exactly such a sensational therapy and what happened to it. In one of the blackest episodes in recorded history, this remarkable electronic therapy was sabotaged and buried by a ruthless group of men. It has re-emerged in the underground medical/alternative health world only since the mid-80's. This is the story of Royal Raymond Rife and his fabulous discoveries and electronic instruments...

Click here to continue reading :
http://www.rense.com/health/rife.htm

I posted the following reply on the Astral Pulse forums (Healing Discussions) :

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Maybe I didn't look hard enough but I didn't see any prices. Can you give me an idea of how much they cost? A fellow in my church just got the bad news and he's severely distraught (also poor). I would like to get this info to him but without knowing how much I don't know if it's appropriate. If it's beyond his means, then he'd just get more depressed.

Hi,

The Rife devices cost an average of USD $5000. But as I said in my 3rd post in this thread, there are many other equally important, and less expensive, avenues, to take as well. These your friend can almost certainly afford, especially with some support from friends and family.

They are :

1) Perusing the work of Aajonus Vonderplanitz; perhaps buying his two books, "We Want To Live" and "Recipe for Living without Disease". The success rate of cancer cures for sufferers utilizing only his 100% all natural dietary principles, without any chemotherapy or radiation therapy, have also been tremendously high (over 90%).

2) Doing a personal Hilarion Reading for USD $150. As long as your church friend does not have any hangups about the psychical nature of this, the Reading can, from personal experience, give very good advice for any medical condition, including cancer.

If you or your friend prefer to focus on obtaining a Rife device, a word of caution - there are literally hundreds, perhaps thousands, of different individuals or companies which are hawking off their devices as "Rife", and a large majority of these are fraudulent.

In a report here by an independent, respected researcher who was intimately familiar with the real Rife technology (she has in her possession an original Rife device), it was found that all the devices on the market that was advertised as "Rife" did not work as claimed, nor had anything to do with the real Rife technology... save for one such device, which was a Rife/Bare device. That is to say, a device certified or constructed under license from Rife technology expert James E Bare.

These are the devices that I recommended in my first post on this thread. James E Bare's webpage, containing links to the authentic, licensed, manufacturers of his devices, can be found here :
http://www.rifetechnologies.com/links.html

I've searched the internet, there are many far cheaper versions from other companies, but to be honest, I do not trust that they work as claimed. If it is possible (a long shot, but...) perhaps the entire church could chip in to obtain one $5k unit for the church, and allow all of its members who need it, to use it within the church.

I'm trying to reconcile the idea that one needs a device...or an operation or a drug regimen.....to treat cancer with the concept that we create reality.

Surely if we create reality all that is needed is a way to let go of the disease. It seems the device is just a substitute for the drugs/treatments.

wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2006 at 11:09pm:

Recognize that we're now in physical incarnation, which means we need to work *with* physicality. So yes, we create reality, *with* (ie. in collaboration with) the laws of physicality.

This means, for instance, that if you take a rock and hammer someone's head, he's going to receive brain damage and his IQ is going to plummet. Does this mean the intelligence of his soul has permanently decreased? Of course not. But the IQ of his incarnated personality has. Why? Because for the duration of our incarnation, our mind works *with* the brain, and our soul *with* the physical body.

Thus, the value of good nutrition cannot be understated. Please peruse the work of nutritionist Aajonus Vonderplanitz for the sake of yourself and all your loved ones.

Lastly, because you make mention of "we create reality" which has an important corollary with *meaning* and *purpose* of all that we manifest and work with, on all levels including physicality; you migh be interested to understand how the malevolent genetic manipulation of the human genone eons ago, with deliberate result of exacerbating human fear & ego with the ingestion of cooked fats (basically contained in all our cooked foods), is actually in line with (ie. has an important spiritual purpose) our greater spiritual destiny as humanity.

From here :

Heidi: My first question is: Did the cooking of fats correlate to the beginnings of Dominator Societies with more ideas of aggression, anger, and violence? Did they do this with the idea of cleansing away the savage animal beast aspect of man, that eats raw, correlating with ethnic cleansings, witch burnings, other uses of fire to cleanse the wildness, the animal, the female out of us?

Hilarion: No. Most understanding of history is skewed by the inappropriate awareness that comes from the development of various forms of anthropology derived from fossilized remains of the Worker Race. Human kind was primarily divided along two lines: These aspects contributing to the development of humanity's various components. These have to some extent combined. Many of the aspects of injection of extraterrestrial DNA, various DNA manipulations by extraterrestrials, various components of DNA shift and gene splicing due to animal and related aspects had requirements within them to increase humanity's sensitivity to cooked fats in order to increase humanity's natural proclivities towards fear and ego difficulties. These issues would make each individual more susceptible to easy manipulation. This procedure began in ancient times long before man as you understand him is, however, the primary aspects of this became fully functional in the latter Atlantean period then moving into civilizations since this time, corresponding to approx. 15000 BC. The tuning points before this were very important for humanity's spiritual evolution, various aspects of manifesting at the physical and other important issues. However, most civilizations before this recognized the inherent benefits of raw fats, and the inherent natural benefits of bacteria. These and related matters were of no concern in the development of fear, and indeed in themselves prevented the larger fear thought-form and potential for manipulation for humanity. The separations of the two aspects of humanity, in some ways related to light and dark, other components of higher intelligence and lower, what could be seen as spirituality and various aspects of enslavement at the far extremes, were brought together to some extent towards Atlantean time period of genetic manipulation, and various other aspects, until man as then understood at 15000 BC approximately must be recognized as a distinct and different being from either the higher or lower races of humanity which existed in early Atlantis and all through the Lemurian epic. The longest in all of humanity's ancient history. Understanding this important separation gives deeper insight because the Lemurians existed, on various components that are quite alien and difficult for humans to digest at the current time. Light in its pure forms, the energy of water directly, the ability to draw energy form earth herself through the feet, even through the hands, and the ability to absorb and utilize various forms of fire including those of the various night elements as well as that of the sun itself. The wind element was a part of this but not well understood and utilized until early Atlantis, and the deeper breathing capacity of Atlanteans was utilized for the manifestation of chi energy. Food was primarily in the form of fruits, and the pancreas had a very different function in this time period. The Worker Race, however, as spliced into the human timeline, occurred towards the end of the Lemurian phase. These beings initially were quite primitive and quite similar to many of the aspects you would currently recognize from fossilized remains as Neanderthal man and related various predecessors towards this ancient people. These beings were typically buried, whereas Atlanteans and Lemurians were cremated, and this is why little of the remains of the higher race is known. Yet, it is observed that although there are many similarities between Neanderthals and modern man, there are many differences as well, and this is one of the important explanations to show this. This overview gives you an idea of where this is going. Now, the understanding of the blending of these races and the importance of raw fats is then understood once the full shift through the Atlantean phase into current physical incarnation is understood. It had to do with becoming more physical, with acknowledging and working with the animal essence. This would be hidden from most of humanity by important Keys, and you are correct in a certain sense in that the ingestion of fat would moderate the nervous system, bringing it into a more aggressive, more fearful, more ego-oriented capacity when the fats were poorly absorbed, as a natural allergic response in the human nervous system. But this must not be understood from the context of anthropology but rather gene splicing and the deliberate attempt to manipulate human consciousness. The reason for this is obvious. The spiritual development, intellectual development, and potential for true awareness was perceived in the Atlantean; this was present to some extent on the Lemurian but not fully physicalized. The physicalization was on route during the Atlantean phase and it was necessary to make these changes if enslavement of humanity was to be a true potential for the future. At the same time the various races that engaged in the enterprise have some contributions to make because the blending of the shadow and the light, the ability for humans to overcome fear, to perceive true deep truth, and to learn the lessons of ego would be a major contribution to all beings (of the Universe) should humanity successfully survive this period. Sorry for the long answer but it needed to be cleared up as to basis of question. Does this clarify?

Kyo's note :

The Worker race, refers to the sub-human race whose fossilized remains have been labelled "neanderthal man" and "cro-magnon man" and others, and wrongly assumed by scientists (ascribing to the oversimplified Darwinist theory of Evolution) to be the ancestors of present man. In truth, these are separate DNA lineages from present day humanity. The present day "bigfoot", "sasquatch" and "yeti", are present day descendants of these sub-human races, and if they are located, scientists will begin to realize that hey, if these living species we find today so closely resemble the fossil remains of "neanderthal man" and such, then this means that they were *not* our ancestors... then where did we come from?

The answer of course, one that is closer to the truth than either the Darwinists or the Creationists, is the 3rd camp that has been labelled, the Interventionists.

http://infinity.usanethosting.com/Heart.Of.God/main.htm#Darwinism

wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2006 at 11:09pm:

There's one more important point I wish to add, that more directly addresses your pondering :

If you check out my post here on the Near-Death discussion forum, I've elaborated that the Rife device is indeed but a symptomatic cure, but one that in itself already has tremendous value, because the pain and suffering that a cancer sufferer goes through, especially from chemotherapy and radiation therapy, is immense and heart-breaking.

The Rife device by comparison, is a lot healthier for the body than chemotherapy and radiation therapy (which is basically killing by poison and by radiation respectively, both methods killing off thousands of healthy body cells for every cancer cell they destroy). The Rife device does not result in any such side effects, and targets only the viruses that trigger the biochemical reactions cause the cancer.

However, as you correctly stated, the Rife device, important and valuable as it is, is but a symptomatic cure, which works by destroying the cancer triggering viruses and biochemical reactions, that are attracted to break down the biochemical toxicity accumulated, that are in turn attracted by the energy vortices that appear, that are in turn created by a psychospiritual issue or karma.

The link between cancer and psychospiritual causes, has been established by a German Cancer Doctor - Dr. Ryke Geerd Hamer. Read Hilarion's comments on the good doctor's work :
http://infinity.usanethosting.com/Heart.Of.God/Hilarion/fall05.html#Hamer

What is important for us, as incarnate physical human beings, is to help our fellow humans and resolve their suffering and restore them back to health and well being. And to this goal, it is clear to us, that chemotherapy and radiation therapy is NOT the best means to accomplish this.

In my opinion, a combination of the following three, would be most helpful :

1) Rife technology to effect a symptomatic cure, ie. get the cancer into remission.

2) Nutrition. Immediately adopt the dietary guidelines of Aajonus Vonderplanitz, specifically a diet for cancer sufferers as outlined in his work.

3) Understand the psychospiritual issue that triggered off the cancer. Peruse the work of Dr. Ryke Geerd Hamer to understand this for yourself.

And do a Hilarion Reading if possible, for advice on all aspects of your cancer and its healing.

Please do not hesistate to let others know of these alternative therapies and routes... chemotherapy and radiation therapy does NOT have to be the only way.

I like all that stuff about cancer cures as I have my own story and enjoy telling it.

my mother and I were never close. one day she pulls up with my sister. thats funny I thought, she never visits me now she just popped up. she and sis come in and sit down and we do the polite chit chat thing. then she springs it on me shes on her way to get exploratory surgery for cancer she had been already diagnosed with. not only that they gave her 3 months to live, still they wanted to cut on her.
suddenly this feeling hits me that she is going to die on the table. its all for nothing. and I just spit it out, it burst out of me YOUR GOING TO DIE! I couldn't believe I said that. my sis turns and says, "Dont say that to mom!" mom says hold on, you got something to say don't you? then it pops in my head why I bought a cancer cure book..it was called The Gerston Therapy. it just fell in my hands one day and I got home and put it away thinking, that was weird, I'm not even interested in Cancer. so I ran and gave it to her knowing it was the right thing to do. so she goes to the hospital, doesn't get a wink of sleep the entire night and reads the thing. next morning before her surgery she checked herself out of the hospital, (no doubt many were attempting to get her to stay, but if u knew my mothers spirit, you'd just get the 'ell out of her way!) so she takes the cure. Now, she had cancer in the lumph nodes, under the arms, in the liver too. when it gets in the liver, thats pretty bad news.
Gerston was not allowed to practice in the states, so he built a clinic in Mexico and mom would travel down there about twice a year at first. she was 53 at the time, now shes 85 and the cancer disappeared and has never returned. she gets other problems associated with old age, but cancer free. she had 3 months to live remember.

basically its a body cleanse system, carrot juice, vegetable juices, B12 shots, and theres a bunch of stuff you cannot eat for awhile, like fried chicken, fast food, etc. and for awhile she had to do daily coffee enemas due to her particular condition.

but theres many different ways to approach body cleansing and rebuilding..many book on the subject and someday these clinics will be allowed to operate right here in the states.

I could be completely wrong here,But I do recall when readin Steve Mcqueens(the actor) biography he travel to Mexico for an "unconventional" cancer treatment, alnog similar lines.
I shall have to check that out see if it was the same one you describe.
Starstream

wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2006 at 2:52am:

Gerston was not allowed to practice in the states, so he built a clinic in Mexico and mom would travel down there about twice a year at first. she was 53 at the time, now shes 85 and the cancer disappeared and has never returned. she gets other problems associated with old age, but cancer free. she had 3 months to live remember.

great story. I see why you enjoy telling it.

wrote on Mar 15^th, 2006 at 2:49am:

i would always assume there'd be some, those nonphysical guys cant reach and wont be able to help before the incident but in a case of mass death have you ever met the nonphysical assitance coming beforehand, all before the mass death happens?

Para,

I can't say I've personally had that experience, but that may be more about when I got involved in the situation than action on the part of nonphysical folks. I suspect that there can be pre-preparation on their part, but I don't recall any personally gathered evidence of that.

Bruce

Hi Kyo

Lots to digest! Have to take Bacon's advice here and chew slowly. Thanks.

Posted by the Administrator of the Rife Forum here :
http://www.rifeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=875

Hi,
there are a number of people who claim all kinds of unusual things cure cancer. I have no idea if this works or not, I am just quoting it here as it is an interesting story.

Enjoy...

Peter Walker
Administrator
http://www.rifeforum.com

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As soon as I got around that morning, I dug some roots and started to prepare it. About a week after... I started taking it. Three weeks later the pain in my back and side was gone and my bowels had improved. Five and one half months later they could find no cancer problem in me at all.

I, then wanted to find someone else to try it, and that was the biggest problem yet. Nobody seems to want to help. When I told doctors, they just smiled as if I was nuts. Finally, I was telling a friend about it and he said he had a friend that was dying of lung cancer. He had it in both lungs and was bed ridden. They were tapping his lungs. He had been given 4 to 6 weeks to live. After he had been on this powder about six weeks, he was up and around doing his chores and driving his car. He went to his doctor's office, and the doctors could not believe it. They took him to the hospital and gave him a CAT scan. They found no cancer lesions in his lungs and said it was a miracle. I then put an ad in The Northwest Herald offering it free, and four people said they would try it. Slowly one person told another and it spread. There was a fair amount of people taking it for different kinds of cancer and several for other things. For instance, a man lost the use of his immune system and was told he wouldn't be able to work again for three years, in six months he is now working ½ days and feeling better. I know this is not a cure all. It won't help everyone or all kinds of cancer. I know it is not a cure for skin cancer and it hasn't had luck with brain tumors. There is a doctor in Boston, Massachusetts that has developed a vaccine that is doing great things. This has been successful with prostate, colon, breast, liver and best of all with lung cancer. Five people have taken it for lung cancer and all five have been cured once. The immune system controls the cancer cells in your body. As long as the immune system is healthy, you don't usually have a cancer problem. When your immune system gets run down, it loses control of the cancer cells, and they start eating live cells and this is what they call cancer. This powder made from dandelion root has something in it that builds up the blood and the immune system.

When the immune system is built up so far, it gets back control of cancer cells, and they do an about face and start cleaning up the mess they've made. This is why you must have a fair appetite because your body must build itself up and be healthy if your immune system is going to be strong. This will not work for people that have lost their appetite or are on CHEMO. Doctors try to blast the cancer out of your body with Chemo or radiation. By doing so, it destroys your immune system and appetite. These are the most important things your body needs to beat cancer. Operations also knock the immune system haywire. This is why so many people that have operations for cancer find that a short time later it has spread somewhere else.

Many of the worst diseases that have plagued the world have been cured quite easily. When I was a boy, women dreaded the goiter more than cancer. A little iodine in the diet cured that. For hundred of years the most dreaded diseases was leprosy and lockjaw. A doctor found he could produce penicillin from moldy bread and could cure them and many more things. How long has moldy bread been around? I'm sure scientists will find many uses for the powder made from the root of the dandelions besides cancer. I have already found it builds up the blood so you heal much faster.

To make the powder from the dandelion root you must follow my directions to the letter. Any changes and it won't work.

Dig a handful of dandelion roots any time of the year, it doesn't matter. Cut the leaves off just below the crown. DO NOT WASH. Then they must be dried around 100 degrees. I do it in an incubator with no water. You can also dry them under a heat light bulb if you raise or lower it so it's 100 degrees. You can also use the sun or put them in the attic if it's not too hot. It takes about 5 or 6 days in the incubator. I have not done this all the way under the heat light. When you break a root and it snaps it is ready to powder. Take an old iron frying pan and a clean hammer. Take one root at a time and place in the frying pan and start tapping. Don't hit hard or it will fly all over the place. I put my hand around the root to keep most of it in the pan. If it sticks to the hammer and pan, and doesn't crumble in your fingers, it isn't dry enough. Keep it up until you have enough to start. It takes about 20 minutes to ½ hour to prepare enough for a week. When you get used to it you can go much faster.

I have an old vessel that druggists used to pound pills, this goes much faster. DO NOT USE AN ELECTRIC GRINDER, it won't work if you do. You lose too much of the good part in dust. You must do it as I have said or don't do it at all. I've tried shortcuts, but it seems someone was looking over my shoulder, and I know when I made a mistake. I'm just an old farmer and not a scientist, so I wouldn't know the correct amount to take on my own. Now take a little over one half teaspoon once a day at any time and mix it with water, orange juice, etc.. Do not use in soft drinks, liquor, or anything hot. When mixed, use it all. Don't let it stand around. Keep the power in a dry place. After taking it three or four days, you will feel good, but nothing else. That is because your blood is building up. When you blood is happy, you're happy. In most cases, this will build your immune system in from three days to three weeks to the point it takes back control of cancer cells and thus the cancer stops spreading. In most cases it is going to help. There is no body feeling as it works. You just feel a little better each week. After three weeks most of the pain will be gone in your back and you know it's working if you had pain there like I did. If you have bone cancer in the spine, it will take three months to work. This is not an overnight cure. It took a while to get in this condition and it will take a while for your body to heal. The sooner you start, the quicker you will be over cancer. Young people heal faster than old people, but it will help at any age. I know because I'm 80 and have been taking it for over three years. No cancer has come back and no side effects except when my body has had enough, it lets me know by getting heart burn. Then I back off some. Some people get stomach aches when they need less. It also means your cancer is under control and you don't need as much. You will also find you probably won't catch a cold while you are taking it full strength.

The biggest enemy for this root is Chemo. The stronger the Chemo, the less chance the power has to help you as Chemo tears your immune system and appetite down, two of the most important things you need to cure cancer. There is only a ten percent chance Chemo will cure you. With no chemo, your chances are 75 to 80% but you must take it every day. Don't let your doctor give you that old threat if you turn him down that goes, "If you want to throw your life away, I can't stop you". Just remember that 90% of the people that take his advice and take chemo are in the cemetery. Don't blame the doctor, he is doing his best with what he has to work with or you could ask for a written guarantee.

I have only mentioned cancers that I know people have had and used this root. It should help pancreas cancer if taken before the appetite is gone and most body cancer. This is food, not a drug. It shouldn't interfere with medicine your doctor may be giving you. Only two doctors have told patients to keep taking the power when they have made a miracle recovery. The rest of the doctors have run the power down and blasted the people even if the cancer has disappeared.

The medical world is not going to accept this easily.

Going back to not washing the roots and leaving a little soil on them, it is for your own good. A good bit of immunity comes from the soil, it starts as soon as you are born. Your fingers touch something, and you put them in your mouth. A little dirt at first, and more as you grow older and start crawling. Then everything you touch goes in the mouth. When children go outside to play and when they come in, they are the dirtiest around the mouth and hand. The hands go in their mouths no matter how dirty they are. Many diseases and bacteria live in the ground, but they don't seem to cause any trouble but it does build up the immune system. Some animals can't live if they can't eat a certain amount of soil. If you read this article over, you will see it! all goes back to common sense. I wish all of you people with cancer and other problems the best.

George Cairns
(815) 338-1526
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708 Hughes Road
Woodstock, IL 80096

This ad does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the Northwest Herald.

The dandelion root power you can buy at a Health Food Store is not made the same way. It is not known to help cancer.

This is a reprint of the ad in The Northwest Herald.
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