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Message started by juditha on Mar 7th, 2006 at 7:20am

Title: Gods beautiful creation
Post by juditha on Mar 7th, 2006 at 7:20am
Hi I was watching on television last night about the sun and the moon .It was telling how  the earth could not survive without the sun . it was so interesting . Apparantly the sun will die in 5 million years and will be a giant which will engulf our planet earth and all the other planets with it . When you really think about it we are on a planet every day moving through space vunerable to all the dangers out there in open space . Its amazing really . On this programme they showed all the flowers and plants and trees and the beauty of Gods creation of this our planet earth . The wonders of nature and the universe are fantastic .I remember reading this book what a medium had written about his many experiences of the spirit world . The beauty there earth can not compare with it . The colours are more beautiful and the flowers bow there heads to you when you pass by . He also said that the animal kingdom is very beautiful . My father said through a medium that he could see the planet earth from were he was .  God created all this beauty and i thank him for all of it . God bless juditha

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by juditha on Mar 7th, 2006 at 7:36am
Hi Iforgot to mention also that the medium who wrote the book also said that there are lots of tiny twinkles of light around the planet and the spirit world knows by these little twinkles of light who is saying a prayer .Because thats what those lights represent is prayer. God bless juditha

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by Spitfire on Mar 7th, 2006 at 10:23am
it's 5 billion years, till the sun goes super nova. But the planet will be so over populated by then, they will probley welcome it.

God did not create the earth!!!!!!!! i repeat god did not create the earth!!!!!!!!. No need to thank it/him if it/he exists, which aint very likely.

please explore the boundries beyond those which the church program you with, your young - so now's the best time to learn, live life and come to your own conclusion's.

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by DocM on Mar 7th, 2006 at 10:56am
Craig,

I understand where you are coming from, but Juditha's understanding of God may be different than yours.  If she believes that God created the earth, and whatever force of creation that went off with the Big Bang, or whatever is that force, why tell her to wise up?  She may be right.

M

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by Jambo on Mar 7th, 2006 at 11:26am

wrote on Mar 7th, 2006 at 10:56am:
Craig,

I understand where you are coming from, but Juditha's understanding of God may be different than yours.  If she believes that God created the earth, and whatever force of creation that went off with the Big Bang, or whatever is that force, why tell her to wise up?  She may be right.

M


Exactly let Juditha believe what she wants to believe

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by RyanParis on Mar 7th, 2006 at 2:27pm

wrote on Mar 7th, 2006 at 10:23am:
God did not create the earth!!!!!!!! i repeat god did not create the earth!!!!!!!!. No need to thank it/him if it/he exists, which aint very likely.


What a stupid thing to say.

If God doesn't exist, how come I astral projected by accident so many times, how come we all have starry astral bodies, and how come I went to other astral dimensions, and how come psychics say they can see the spirits/astral bodies?

Please don't say something dumb like evolution/my imagination.

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by Spitfire on Mar 7th, 2006 at 3:08pm

wrote on Mar 7th, 2006 at 2:27pm:
What a stupid thing to say.

If God doesn't exist, how come I astral projected by accident so many times, how come we all have starry astral bodies, and how come I went to other astral dimensions, and how come psychics say they can see the spirits/astral bodies?

Please don't say something dumb like evolution/my imagination.


You have the balls to call me dumb? when you use that kind of evidence, for gods existance?.

God made you have an astral projection did he? got any evidence for this? he speak to you? send you an email?

You got any case against evolution? or did god make adam and eve have 50,000 kids?

wake up, and smell the coffee sinbad - even modern christians dont believe in adam and eve fairy tales.

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by RyanParis on Mar 7th, 2006 at 3:11pm

wrote on Mar 7th, 2006 at 3:08pm:
You have the balls to call me dumb? when you use that kind of evidence, for gods existance?.

God made you have an astral projection did he? got any evidence for this? he speak to you? send you an email?

You got any case against evolution? or did god make adam and eve have 50,000 kids?

wake up, and smell the coffee sinbad - even modern christians dont believe in adam and eve fairy tales.


I didn't say anything about adam and eve.

Who made our astral bodies and the astral dimensions? God? Nature?

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by Spitfire on Mar 7th, 2006 at 3:17pm

wrote on Mar 7th, 2006 at 3:11pm:
I didn't say anything about adam and eve.

Who made our astral bodies and the astral dimensions? God? Nature?


you mentioned evolution.

and weres your proof, god made these? whats to say they hav'nt always existed? whats to say astral body's ar'nt accidents?

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by RyanParis on Mar 7th, 2006 at 3:23pm

wrote on Mar 7th, 2006 at 3:17pm:
weres your proof, god made these? whats to say they hav'nt always existed? whats to say astral body's ar'nt accidents?


Well, obviously SOMETHING had to make these dimensions, because they are there. Saying these dimensions always existed is like saying my TV has always existed. Who created the TV?

Astral bodies are accidents? You really think a starry/glittery astral body that twinkles like stars and then falls back into our physical body when waking up is an accident of Nature? Someone must have created it.



Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by Spitfire on Mar 7th, 2006 at 3:38pm

wrote on Mar 7th, 2006 at 3:23pm:
Well, obviously SOMETHING had to make these dimensions, because they are there. Saying these dimensions always existed is like saying my TV has always existed. Who created the TV?

Astral bodies are accidents? You really think a starry/glittery astral body that twinkles like stars and then falls back into our physical body when waking up is an accident of Nature? Someone must have created it.


Why does it have to be created? Time only exists here.

If you believe someone created us, then who created god? and then who created gods god?, and so on - it's just a continous cycle.

Unless we have created this dimension ourselfs, and this is not a true reality, but merely an experiment we have placed ourselfs in.

Our drives, needs and wants - cant be down to who creates what ultimately, otherwise you would be stuck in a never endling circle.

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by juditha on Mar 7th, 2006 at 5:07pm
Hi i read this story about this doctor .Apparantly his little girl who was 9 yrs old died for a few minutes. When they ressucitated her and got her back her father asked her what she had seen . She told her father that she had seen God and he had spoken to her . God told her she had to go back and she said she did not feel afraid . When her father asked her what God looked like she said God was blue . Children always say exactly what they truly see . God bless juditha

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by spooky2 on Mar 7th, 2006 at 10:54pm
When you see something beautiful, heartwarming, and you feel like truely being home, and you are raised as a Christian, you might say you saw God. Or maybe it was a one of God's Helpers, as they probably are great enough to appear to us that we think it must be God.

One says there must be a creator and calls the creator God. The other one says it's nature and evolution. Will they ever be able to put this two in one?

Spooky

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by mattb1000 on Mar 8th, 2006 at 11:30am
 Trying to think about existance and creation makes my head hurt so much sometimes that it often makes me wonder if this reality hold some sort of illusionary quality.

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by spooky2 on Mar 8th, 2006 at 9:18pm
Yes mattb1000, what's called "reality" is one of several states of awareness. If one wants to have the basic-true-reality or whatever you like to call it, the only way is to get behind the curtain of personal perception, that is to overcome the separation of the perceiver and the perceived things. No "me" and "the other" or "inside" and "outside" but only one "here".

Well, in my opinion.
Spooky

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by RyanParis on Mar 9th, 2006 at 3:02am

wrote on Mar 7th, 2006 at 3:38pm:
Why does it have to be created?


The Universe is more complex and pefectly running that any super computer. Every Atom, every cosmic force in perfect alignment. Beyond the Universe there is absolutely not a thing. If you walked into the desert and found a super computer would you say that someone must have designed it, and meant it to be?

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by Spitfire on Mar 9th, 2006 at 6:03am

wrote on Mar 9th, 2006 at 3:02am:
The Universe is more complex and pefectly running that any super computer. Every Atom, every cosmic force in perfect alignment. Beyond the Universe there is absolutely not a thing. If you walked into the desert and found a super computer would you say that someone must have designed it, and meant it to be?


how do you know the universe is running perfectly? the universe by it's very nature is destructive and chaotic, and hostile towards humans.

our perceptions are also to limited to see whats beyond the universe.

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by augoeideian on Mar 9th, 2006 at 8:11am
Lol Spitfire .. its people like you that keep people like us on our toes ;D

Keep up the good work mate!!

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by Kardec on Mar 9th, 2006 at 8:58am
The universe is perfect.

Every single action has a reaction. As long time passes the more things change. We can’t see the progress if we are too much proud of our selves.

I can’t understand the conflict between creationists and the ones who believe in evolution. They’re booth right.

Every effect has a cause (science says that) an intelligent effect must have an intelligent cause (logic). Beings do evolve (perfect process) who planned the process?

If you say: NO ONE HAS PLANED THE PROCESS IT’S MERE COINCIDENCE!

So sorry You Know nothing about science.

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by Spitfire on Mar 9th, 2006 at 9:31am
How do you define perfect? perfect for who? perfect for humans? i highly doubt that, humans are confined to the earth, without making something with our minds that extends our limitations.

The earth is like 1 cell in the body, you are a tiny little particle inside that cell. Is the body designed to cater for your needs? do you care about every single particle inside your own body? the answer is no.

People damage there body's, and kill off cells at the rate of thousands, imagine each cell being a planet with intelligent life. does the collective consciousness of our body, care wether you die or live? the answer is no - because it's neighbour will make a new one.

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by Kardec on Mar 9th, 2006 at 9:40am
Congratulations Spit fire You got there!

You are 100% correct.

God created the human systems like earth in order to teach HIS sons how to be like him. How to be able to create live, perfection and give them love and share such happiness.

Of course He wouldn’t give us planets and lives and let us play with such big thing.

We will have to learn how to love and take care of our cells and the other ones cells and then we will be able to take another step. Till there learn to love your self and the others.

You are almost there. You are getting the picture.

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by Spitfire on Mar 9th, 2006 at 3:32pm
God did'nt create the planets.

Happiness, love, perfection. it is all based upon the human mind's need to be number 1. In reality, it has no bearing on the universe as a system.

imagine, each person on earth, is 1/10th of 1 particle of sand in relation to the size of the universe, do you care about each 1/10th of a particle of sand on the planet? of course you dont. So if god existed, why would he? the answer is, he would'nt.

All emotions are purely based upon human ideals, they just dont work in the universe.

Title: Re: Gods beautiful creation
Post by Spitfire on Mar 9th, 2006 at 3:55pm

wrote on Mar 9th, 2006 at 8:11am:
Lol Spitfire .. its people like you that keep people like us on our toes ;D

Keep up the good work mate!!


From what ive seen from your other posts, i would say your well up to the challenge  ;)

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