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Message started by missmaster on Mar 4th, 2006 at 6:30pm

Title: Do you join your partner in the afterlife?
Post by missmaster on Mar 4th, 2006 at 6:30pm
Hi guys,

I'm very new in this exploration and I feel ashamed to say this but I'm still rather skeptical about the whole idea of the afterlife. I'm sorry if I offend anyone with that.

Ever since I can remember, I've been absolutely petrified of dying, or, more specifically, not existing in any way. These fears come to me even now, usually when I'm alone with my thoughts, like when I'm in bed before I fall asleep.

When I first met my now husband, our conversation revolved around death and what happens when we die. He is very skeptical about any kind of existence beyond this one, even more so than me. I think he would like to believe but he's a bit more rational in his thinking than I am. Despite this, we still have conversations about it now and then.

He knows I'm very scared of dying. He used to think it was no more than anyone else's fear of death but he quickly realised that this fear grips me quite often and rather relentlessly. I don't want to feel like this as it is beginning to take over my life, especially since the birth of my daughter a few months ago.

I've come to the conclusion that perhaps my intense fear and constant thoughts of death are trying to push me to explore possibilities.

So here I am.

I would really like to believe that this whole existence here serves a purpose. I've always found it difficult to understand why we would be here, live 70 odd years then cease to exist. What's the point in that?

I'm sorry I've just looked at the subject I wrote for this post and I've realised that I'm getting carried away here! If you've read this far, thanks!

Just a bit more...

I love my husband and daughter more than I ever imagined love could feel like, if that makes sense. I feel my husband and I have an inexplicable bond, despite a 22 year age gap. I would like to know, if anyone is able to answer this, if you join your partner in the afterlife? I would hate to think that, yes there is an afterlife, but I can't be with my husband in it. I can't bear the thought of experiencing things without him. It may sound a bit soppy but he is part of me.

Ok this is the end of my story here!! If anyone has any comments that may help my exploration I'd be very glad to listen.

Thanks for reading. :)

Title: Re: Do you join your partner in the afterlife?
Post by Spitfire on Mar 4th, 2006 at 6:45pm
I know exactly were your coming from, though i dont fear death, for the way i see it.

We die, and theres nothing after - we cease to exist, then we will not care - so theres no point in worrying about it.

I believe we go someone when we die, because energy is always changable - never destructable.

If your looking for evidence that we survive, this is'nt a very good place. But i can suggest a book for you.

'the scole experiment" has some very good proof we survive, it even has a couple of pictures from the afterlife.

I would also research a medium called "gordon smith".

i would start with those 2 for now, and work on from there.

Title: Thanks for your reply.
Post by missmaster on Mar 4th, 2006 at 6:49pm
Thank you for taking the time to respond to my lengthy post!

I appreciate your opinion, it's exactly the kind of thing my husband would say!

But there's something that won't let me believe this, aside from fear. It's something I feel obligated to explore.

Title: Re: Thanks for your reply.
Post by Spitfire on Mar 4th, 2006 at 6:51pm

wrote on Mar 4th, 2006 at 6:49pm:
Thank you for taking the time to respond to my lengthy post!

I appreciate your opinion, it's exactly the kind of thing my husband would say!

But there's something that won't let me believe this, aside from fear. It's something I feel obligated to explore.


Tell me about it, im driven like a crazy beast to find the answer's. Best evidence i have found is the book mentioned above, along with the medium gordon smith - it will give you some good secure evidence that we exist beyond this mortal coil.

Title: Nice one!
Post by missmaster on Mar 4th, 2006 at 6:55pm
Thanks for the info. I guess what you mentioned would be a good place to start.

One foot in front of the other! Here goes.

Title: Re: Do you join your partner in the afterlife?
Post by juditha on Mar 4th, 2006 at 6:55pm
Hi missmaster You will be with your partner in the afterlife. My dad died 5 yrs ago and i have many messages from him through  mediums and they have all been accurate . he says that he is with his family whats passed on before him and hes in a beautiful world . My mum misses him terribly because they loved each other very much and she said the one thing that gives her comfort is knowing that she will be with him again one day.the spirit world does exist . ive had and seen a lot of evidence to know that . God bless juditha

Title: I would like to feel that way.
Post by missmaster on Mar 4th, 2006 at 7:00pm
I'd love to feel secure in the knowledge that death isn't final and that I will join my husband on the other side. My problem is that belief doesn't seem to come easily and I tend to look more for evidence than what's commonly believed.

What was mentioned above about energy being changeable, not destructible, is a theory I've been working on in my mind for a long time. But I feel it's insufficient. I need more.

I seem to have an unquenchable thirst for this knowledge, and I'm doing my best to find it!

Title: Re: Do you join your partner in the afterlife?
Post by Marilyn Maitreya on Mar 4th, 2006 at 7:14pm
Welcome to the forum. I feel the best place for you to start is to explore this whole website. Read Necessary Skills at the top of this page to see how easy it is to contact someone in the afterlife and to know for yourself that it exists.  I've been there many, many times as have many others here. You will find people here who want proof and the only proof is in doing it yourself.

Happy journeys. ;-)

Love, Mairlyn ;-)

Title: Re: I would like to feel that way.
Post by Spitfire on Mar 4th, 2006 at 7:15pm

wrote on Mar 4th, 2006 at 7:00pm:
I'd love to feel secure in the knowledge that death isn't final and that I will join my husband on the other side. My problem is that belief doesn't seem to come easily and I tend to look more for evidence than what's commonly believed.

What was mentioned above about energy being changeable, not destructible, is a theory I've been working on in my mind for a long time. But I feel it's insufficient. I need more.

I seem to have an unquenchable thirst for this knowledge, and I'm doing my best to find it!


Keep at it, it's not easy - especially here! for they believe you must do everything, yourself.

Mediums are usually the first dose of afterlife knowledge people generally get, but unfortunately 95% + are complete fakes.

a face to face peice of unique information supplied by another person is generally the best type of evidence we can hope for.

I would check out a well credited medium, but dont fall for any common things they may blurt out, but if they get your name straight off etc - you cant help but be quite heavily assured that the information is coming from source's which are beyond those of a normal human.

Title: Contacting the other side
Post by missmaster on Mar 4th, 2006 at 7:20pm
My problem with contacting the other side is that I don't have anyone I know well enough to contact. My great gran died when I was young and I didn't really know her very well. A friend of my husband died in 2004, Barry. He was nice, funny, my husband was very fond of him. They were both into drums and talked and joked often. I didn't know him that well either, not sufficient enough, I don't think, to warrant contacting him, if it's possible. (sorry, skepticism coming to the surface)

I'm enjoying reading posts and other areas of this website though, in my quest for knowledge.

Thanks for the posts guys. :)

Title: Re: Do you join your partner in the afterlife?
Post by Jambo on Mar 4th, 2006 at 8:15pm
I suffer from a obsessive fear of death, but like yourself something within drove me to investigate deeper into lifes biggest mystery.

As Spitfire said, unfortunatley most mediums are complete frauds (Derek Acorah cough cough) who prey on innocent peoples insecurities but there have been a few who in my research who have blown me away with their gift.

The following mediums are worth deeper research, Helen Duncan, Leslie Flintt, Edgar Cayce and Leonore Piper, and Gordon Smith, who Spitfire said is the most accurate medium on gods green earth.

Title: Re: Contacting the other side
Post by Vicky on Mar 4th, 2006 at 9:55pm

wrote on Mar 4th, 2006 at 7:20pm:
My problem with contacting the other side is that I don't have anyone I know well enough to contact. My great gran died when I was young and I didn't really know her very well. A friend of my husband died in 2004, Barry. He was nice, funny, my husband was very fond of him. They were both into drums and talked and joked often. I didn't know him that well either, not sufficient enough, I don't think, to warrant contacting him, if it's possible. (sorry, skepticism coming to the surface)

I'm enjoying reading posts and other areas of this website though, in my quest for knowledge.

Thanks for the posts guys. :)



Hi Missmaster,

If you are willing to try, you could get prepared to try and then start off by setting the intent to have contact with someone from the other side and then trusting that guidance will help you.  I don't feel I am a teacher though, so you'd have to learn the techniques from reading the links above, or other posts, or Bruce's Afterlife Knowledge Guidebook.  There are helpful CD's out there as well.  Good luck in your searching!  At least your husband discusses stuff like this with you.  Mine doesn't believe in anything and doesn't even want to discuss it.  

Title: Re: Do you join your partner in the afterlife?
Post by Marilyn Maitreya on Mar 4th, 2006 at 10:24pm
Vicky, we're all teachers. ;-)

Love, Mairlyn ;-)

Title: Re: Do you join your partner in the afterlife?
Post by spooky2 on Mar 4th, 2006 at 10:44pm
Hi Missmaster,

first, your husband's deceased friend would be a person which you could start with BECAUSE you don't know him well. You could then get informations you had never known and your husband could maybe verificate it. This is a method Bruce Moen says is often enough succesful to come to believe there is an afterlife. Also, The Monroe Institute used this method when I was there. Some people here say, you need only a name or nickname to get contact- and your intention and some methods that are describe on this website.

Regarding your fear, I say Spitfire is right- no existence is, thinking rational, nothing to fear, but if you really believe in this, then the LIFE, that's my opinion too, would be pointless.

Rational thinking doesn't necessarily imply to believe there is no afterlife. The best scientists can't proove that there is no afterlife. It's a question if what you read and experience is convincing for you.

I too recommend to look into the posts here. You then can decide for yourself if you think a post is convincing, doubtable, confused, or not credible.

Then, take some time to try a meditation method, not necessarily the hard-sitting-ones, the relaxed-laying-in-bed ones with imagination or tapes do work too. It's worth it. You can't loose by trying it, in the worst case you would have learned how to relax and to regularly take a little time-out and that's really useful and comfortable.

Spooky

Title: Re: Do you join your partner in the afterlife?
Post by Cricket on Mar 5th, 2006 at 10:41am
I wouldn't worry alot about not knowing anyone on the other side that well...we've got (or had, I think I scared him off) a ghost in this house named Ted, who none of us ever heard of before, who's quite the Chatty Cathy.  When my daughter was still living at home he'd yack away at her about all kinds of stuff, about some of which she hadn't even asked!  (He'd apparently been dead awhile and was bored...).  Obviously, if you've lost someone close you want to talk to them, but not having a close relationship with someone on the other side doesn't mean you can't find someone to communicate with and give you verification.

Title: Re: Do you join your partner in the afterlife?
Post by augoeideian on Mar 6th, 2006 at 4:02am
Hi missmaster  :)  Love and Peace

In my metaphysical studies I have learnt that we  do join our partners in the afterlife.

Every person that comes into your life, here in Earth, who you have had a long relationship with (that is over 12 years) you have known in previous lives.

These relationships might have been different in your past lives for example your husband may have been your father or mother; your daughter may have been your sister or brother.

This group that you belong to is part of your entity group here on Earth and in the Afterlife. One could say it is your 'blood-line'.

I have read that in fact once we pass over there is no-one 'new' that you do not know in the Spiritual realm where your Spiritual entity belongs.

Group re-incarnation happens to either - work out Karma; for strength, support and love; to carry out a certain task that needs to be done on Earth or other reasons.

The particular vehicle of the body ie male, female, husband, wife, daughter etc;  choosen for this 'meeting' suits the task, message or undertaking that was planned before birth.

It is no co-incidence when we meet someone for the first time on Earth and we feel have a 'bond' with them; especially when a long term relationship
develops.  They have entered your life at the right time for a reason.  Or we might have the feeling that something is 'missing' from our lives in could be part of entity choose not to re-incarnate with us this time around; for a reason.

The reason comes naturally, as in nature, it might be something big or something so small.  It cannot be forced it will happen naturally.

It is wonderful of you to say that fear is making you question there is an awakening that is taking place in your Soul.  Understanding your fear will turn that fear into love.

And upon that knowledge; tell fear to 'get down' you have conquered it as fear blocks and fear feeds on fear. Let go of the fear, surrender any thought of trying to control for control is fear of being out-of-control.

Surround yourself and your loved ones with colour and music to soothe and nourish your Soul and know you come from a magnicient place. You dont need to 'contact' anyone from the Spiritual realms as everything lives inside you already.

Look at your loved ones and say "I know you and always will"  :)

I hope this helps your path missmaster :)

er... Spitfire... your message is filled with sadness?

Love and Freedom.






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