Since deanna posted about food, it leads me to think - what cant we do in the afterlife?

Can we touch, can we smell? can we taste?

There must be somthing we cannot do, otherwise there would be no point in living a physical existance.

Is physical existance purely for certain experiences?, and what experiences here, cant you have in the atferlife?

Feelings on being mortal maybe? the experience of time? maybe we are all here because we all suck at organising, and need better time management skills?  :o

maybe we trade infomation about experiences - with each other in the afterlife, and then decide to try them out for ourselves?

Do we get bored with the afterlife? and decide to test ourselfs by becoming mortal?

Do we wish for a simpler existance, like someone who moves from the city into the countryside?

Anyone know of anything which we cannot do as pure consciousness?

Hi Spitfire with a P,

Such good questions, and I won't pretend to have the answers for you.  

But would you be asking these very questions in the afterlife?  

Here on earth we have great mysteries to explore.  A lifetime can never be long enough to uncover fully the complexities of our own minds and experiences.  

I can see that you enjoy the quest.  Wouldn't that be a great reason for you to come to this earth?  To explore your own capacities as a human?  Who would need to compare?  Your own experience is incomparable and unique.

love, blink

you can have whatever you want in the afterlife the only thing what isnt the same is you have no vocal chords so you comunnicate through mind thought you cannot have sex only a union of souls i read this in a book written by a medium when we pass over we usally go on to the third plane as the spirit world is made up of seven plains and the third plane is the astral world which is more or less the same as earthbut the difference being its not physical  but your spirit can evolve and move on to higher planes if you want to you get the choice if you want to go to a football match you just think it and you will be there if you want to see loved ones who you left behind just think it and you can visit them you have more in the spirit world than you did in the physical world quote the saying riches in heaven it is a world full of pure love its beautiful god bless juditha

I highly recommend you guys read John Edward's book called One Last Time, and perhapes Sylvia Browne's Life on the Other Side books. They talk highly about the nature of the spirit world and what it's like.

Mr. juditha is right when he says spirits' have no vocal cords. Spirits speak to each other through their minds. John Edward in his book One Last Time said that spirits' don't have vocal cords (and Edward seems very honest). So when they speak to him, they use words and symbols put into his mind by the spirits.

From all the information I've gathered over the years, the information from psychic books, astral projection websites, ect, the spirit world is where spirits evolve to become perfected spirits. The earth is like a "school" for spirits.

wrote on Feb 1^st, 2006 at 5:55pm:

Since deanna posted about food, it leads me to think - what cant we do in the afterlife?

 
 The great value i see in the physical dimension, which is unique to the physical dimension...is that unlike in the astral and mental dimensions, you can be surrounded by those not of like mind, energy, and belief systems...  This changes the whole nature of the ball game.

 So, basically the physical Earth differs, in that it seems to be universally about challenge, testing, conflict, and growth through overcoming such.  

 In many of the astral and mental dimensions, everyone more or less agrees with you, and is more or less like you...

 Mighty hard to deeply grow in such an atmosphere, it just doesn't test the soul much (unless you're in a astral hell, but it doesn't seem like many on average phase there)...  And thats why i think there is a high demand for physical earth lives...  a greater catalyst, a stronger impetus.

 That's why i don't dislike and judge temporary conflict and inharmony so much anymore.   I don't actively try to manifest it, but if it naturally arises, i don't run away, avoid, or pretend it doesn't exist.  I try to face the issue.

 Astrology is a great tool to see oneself more objectively than normally would be possible...especially the unconscious aspects of self.

 The Moon sign, placements, and aspects particularly show some of the more major themes of unconsciousness.

 For example, i have Moon in Libra.   I use to be pretty attached to wanting to be liked, to be seen/perceived as kind, and i could be rather passive.    I was very attached to close personal relationships, and always desired harmony and peace...  Sometimes it became 'peace at a price', meaning i would not authentically be myself, i was somewhat of a people pleaser and needing to get along.   If i felt an unpleasant emotion, or anger, etc. i would try to repress it...

 Eventually realized that my Moon in Libra tendencies were holding me back, and i realized that there was nothing 'wrong' with standing up for self, disagreeing with others, etc.    I left behind the negative and unconscious traits of Moon in Libra, and was left with trying to be fair, balanced, with perspective on my deeper emotional self (doesn't always happen).

My point, well Moon in Libra innately longs for the harmony of the astral and mental dimensions, its almost like this position shows one strongly remembering that, and is attached to it...

 And this obviously conflicts or contradicts the purpose of Earth and being here.  

 I think eventually, as we deeply develop spiritually, we become more and more detached to the outer around us, and the Earth is the testing ground for this... to practice detachment, especially to self.   Anyone can smile or be kind when things are going good and easy, but smiling or being kind through difficulty is a whole nother ball game, or so i've been constantly learning.

 But yeah, its nice we all eventually get a break ;)  Right now, i'm enjoying my stay and catalysts (well, occasionally i scream "get me out of here!") ::)

 Take care Mr. SpitFire

hi ryanparis im a mrs not a mister  i read what you said i have seen john edwards on television and i think he is one of the best mediums ive seen god bless you juditha

hi ryan the reaon i got fred flintstone as my picture is because my dad looked just like him bless you juditha

you can have whatever you want in the afterlife the only thing what isnt the same is you have no vocal chords so you comunnicate through mind thought you cannot have sex only a union of souls i read this in a book written by a medium when we pass over we usally go on to the third plane as the spirit world is made up of seven plains and the third plane is the astral world which is more or less the same as earthbut the difference being its not physical  but your spirit can evolve and move on to higher planes if you want to you get the choice if you want to go to a football match you just think it and you will be there if you want to see loved ones who you left behind just think it and you can visit them you have more in the spirit world than you did in the physical world quote the saying riches in heaven it is a world full of pure love its beautiful god bless juditha
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Lemme see... you can play football (a PHYSICAL activity) or at least attend a game...
But no sex? This doesn't compute, Juditha. If you
can chase after an inflatable toy and tackle opponents, why can't you do the wild thing? Or is the power of imagination insufficient to materialize whatever you please (such as a solid-feeling "body"? Or will we be insubstantial, like little puffs of flatus - and we won't be able to experience "solidity" at all..?)
Or is it because of puritanical "regulations" in
the afterlife, and only things that Ned Flanders
would enjoy, are allowed?
Please elaborate...

B-man

B-man,

From what has been written, sex can occur in the afterlife.  It is obviously different as our senses without a body are "astral senses," and organs, etc.  With the mind one can create virtually anything.  

Without the rules of earthly society, or belief systems, etc. the need to have sex may be different for different people.  I would like to think that the option is available.


M-man

hi spitfire their are no limitations in the spirit world your free to do what you want god gave us free will on earth and free will in the spirit world when we eventually go there but you do not have vocal chords you communicate with your mind when you go there you dont feel pain anymore it is a serene peaceful existence and no you cant have physical love anymore but you can still feel love for someone and they for you love is all around in the spirit realms  deanna

Quote:

I highly recommend you guys read John Edward's book called One Last Time, and perhapes Sylvia Browne's Life on the Other Side books. They talk highly about the nature of the spirit world and what it's like.

Hhhhhmmmm, I don't know much about John Edward but I wouldn't necessarily believe everything Sylvia Browne says.
She manages to get some of the things correctly but others .... are just pure fabrication. For example She claims evil souls die and reincarnate almost straight away to make up for the evil. She calls this the horse shoe effect or something.  ::)
She also claims we are all fluent in a dead language (can't remember which one) in the afterlife and that's what we use to communicate in thought. *sighs*
I also read in one of her books in the afterlife there is a statue of the mother God somewhere and I'm still trying to digest that one.
I could go on and on. She might not make everything up and probably she does have some kind of gift but I wouldn't recommend her books to a skeptic like Spitfire who tries to find the proof just as much as he tries to expose the afterlife as a fraud.
I would really recommend Michael Newton books. He put together the testimonies of clients that he was able to take back to the time between incarnations by the means of hypnosis. Past the subsconscious mind and into the superconscious.
I am reading now his "Journey of Souls" book and it really is fascinating.

Peace.

SC

Sylvia Browne is a total fraud in my opinion.

juditha and deanna are the same person in my opinion. The same person contructs sentences without fullstops and capital letters etc. Even if they were "twins", it is highly unlikley that they would share the EXACT same writing/typing skills.

It is a shame that this person is trying to write as 2 people as, in my opinion, it makes the stories of her Grandad and Father less credible.

I could be wrong about this but I cannot see why a person would wish to write as 2 separate people!

I am not a hard nose skeptic, but I do not like being taken for an idiot either.

wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2006 at 8:51am:

hi ryanparis im a mrs not a mister  i read what you said i have seen john edwards on television and i think he is one of the best mediums ive seen god bless you juditha

What do you think of Leslie Flint? He passed away in 94 i think it was. As far as I am concerned he is one if not the only medium who went under extensive tests, and passed.

I encourage you all to check him out, he and his sitters recorded alot of diffrent Direct Voice recordings. Some are really interesting, all of them are similar in nature. Alot even talk about how hard it is to 'retreive' people who pass over and have very strong religious beliefs, they are stuck in one plane.


wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2006 at 10:42am:

Sylvia Browne is a total fraud in my opinion. juditha and deanna are the same person in my opinion. The same person contructs sentences without fullstops and capital letters etc. Even if they were "twins", it is highly unlikley that they would share the EXACT same writing/typing skills. It is a shame that this person is trying to write as 2 people as, in my opinion, it makes the stories of her Grandad and Father less credible. I could be wrong about this but I cannot see why a person would wish to write as 2 separate people! I am not a hard nose skeptic, but I do not like being taken for an idiot either.

I noticed that as well.

But you said it not me. :p

hi napkin,

Ive seen infomation about leslie flint, someone posted a website about him quite some time ago.

The tests were quite impressive, it was just some of the things he said, that children were still children in the afterlife, and i thought it was commonly believed among psychics/ober's that we all gain access to infomation we acquired from previous lives.

I would imagine that we are all similar to the way we are when we die, as our minds are what they are.  A young child may not understand much, and I'm not sure, but I've heard that for this reason they need to be schooled and taught after they pass on.  They don't just magically become adults; this all makes sense to me, as if a consciousness allowed itself to start from scratch, it might not be developed enough if the physical body died at a very young age, to cope with things.

Yes Sylvia Brown is a fraud in my eyes for one reason, when Rhandi "attacked" her on Larry King's show, she never made ONE attempt to defend herself or her supposed ability,

And no, John Edwards is not the worlds best medium, he is a showman, and true, honest mediums are not meant to behave like showmen

Leslie Flint is the worlds best ever medium in my eyes next to Gordon Smith, Helen Duncan and Doris Stokes.  I mean he was tested in every way and passed them all.

Im going to see old gordon smith, in march at jordie land [newcastle]

He's my most favourite medium, hope he live's up to my expectations ^+

hi matt b1000 you are totally wrong me and deanna are definetly twins we are very close and identical twins  we think and feel the same as i seem to type the same as deanna its how we are  we are a like carbon copies if you were a twin you would understand that  god bless juditha

derek acorah is a genuine medium  i read his book  his grandmother was also a medium i think hes one of the best  god bless juditha

Spit,

You pose some excellent questions here that offer a fresh angle for reflection on the nature of the afterlife.  Your questions are good because they are not easily answered with confidence in any comprehensive way.   Nevertheless, I will take a provisional stab at some of them.

"There must be something we cannot do [in the afterlife], otherwise there would be no point in living a physical existence."
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From my reading on the paranormal, there are at least three things that we can no longer do in the afterlife: (1) keep our thoughts and character hidden from those in contact with us; (2) live in proximity to other souls with the variety of developmental progress that we encounter on earth; (3) retain in the higher planes the same inclinations towards evil choices that give value to our free choice of the good in this life.  I will briefly respond to each question in turn.

1) Much of our character is based on the fact that we can conceal our true thoughts and character from those around us.   Swedenborg learns that our inability to sustain this privacy in the next more mental life dramatically changes our personality and essence.  If so, we to take more seriously who we really are when nobody is looking.

(2) In the Bible, New Age thought, and paranormal research, there is a widespread consensus that the afterlife is governed by the principle of like attracts like.   This implies that the diversity of our earthly communities will be replaced by a greater uniformity in the spiritual planes.   Of course, we are all both similar and different in a variety of ways.  So it is not entirely clear which similarities will be decisive for the "soul-sorting" process.   Perhaps, we gravitate towards planes where our common traits cause us to vibrate according to the same frequency.  But this is speculative.  

In romance, opposites often attract.  One wonders if well-matched spouses with opposite personalities will be able to cohabit on the same heavenly plane.  Of course, according to Swedenborg, it will be possible to visit friends on other spiritual planes.  

(3) If we eventually shed our inclinations to choose evil, it must be asked whether we retain the same quality of free will in the next life.   The value of our free will is directly proportional to our ability to overcome contrary inclinations.  Some Christians misinterpret the Bible to mean that believers become virtually omnipotent and morally perfect in heaven.  This view undermines the value of our slow maturation process in this life.  On this view, Mother Teresa and the petty Christian guttersnipe become equally advanced  morally.   On the contrary, the Bible agrees with the New Age consensus that we are essentially the same person right after our death.  

If life evolves on our planet, it seems conceivable that the nature of the afterlife planes might evolve as well and that we might need to evolve spiritually in our "upward ascent" through them   Paranormal sources suggest a very gradual transition in our future life.  

"Do we get bored with the afterlife?"
___________________________

From my reading on channeling, boredom, together with an upgrade in one's energetic make-up,  can serve as an important tool for signaling when we are ready to advance to a higher plane.

"Can we touch, can we smell? can we taste?"
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Paranormal sources suggest that we can exercise the equivalent of our 5 senses in the afterlife and even enjoy an emotionally and sexually charged soul merger with the opposite sex which is more satisfying than physical sex.

Don

wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2006 at 3:15pm:

derek acorah is a genuine medium  i read his book  his grandmother was also a medium i think hes one of the best  god bless juditha

Are you joking? EVERY place i read contantly debunks him. At first i thought he might be genuine, but i soon could see he was nothing more than an actor.

Do a bit of research.

hi blacknapkins i admit he does go a bit over the top when hes doing derek acorahs ghost towns but when he does his one to one reading with someone he is usually spot on god bless juditha

Take a look at this site, i'm not sure of the exact source, but i've read this before. It's about Derek's link to simon peters, and the fact that he gave him a live reading as a man not knowing him. Weeks later he had him on his show.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t33281.html

In my opinion, TAPS is a much better show, there go at their works from a skeptic standpoint, looking for truth not what they want to find.

One very interesting episode, they went into a medium's house, who claimed he talked regularly to the old owner of the house. (it was a very very old house in SC)

Anyway, he offered to give one of them a reading, he was extremely accurate, and the other main member was filming on an infared camera, because the room was completely dark.

What was so interesting, when the medium said he was going to tap into his energy, all these diffrent colors came up on the camera screen, all over the screen. Then when he was finished, he raised his hand, and droped it slightly and boom, the colors were back to normal.

I'll see if i can provide a link.

no matt this is deanna and i can assure you me and juditha are twins what possible purpose would it be for me to make up a lie like that about us being twins i,ll get my sistr to send a photo of me and her to prove that we are twins and not one person trying to be two  deanna

matt i am not lying about my grandad or my dad  i wouldnt do that i have always been a very honest person like that if you dont believe we are twins still i,ll give you our adresses so you can come and see for yourself deanna

hi black napkins i have got slight douts about derek on some things when he is obsessed by a spirit i sometimes wonder if that is really possible god bless juditha

Don, you wrote:

Paranormal sources suggest that we can exercise the equivalent of our 5 senses in the afterlife and even enjoy an emotionally and sexually charged "soul merger" more satisfying than physical sex.

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About that "soul merger", Don...
Are you saying then... that we won't have any
solidity, that we will be "puffs of flatus" (my favorite
term for the idea...)
That when we try to put our hands on our stomachs and press in the next world... our hands will pass through ourselves like we were, well... ghosts?
Or IS there solidity - i.e., can you pick up a monkey wrench and beat on a stump with it in the afterlife? Or is this impossible (due to "poofiness" and non-solidity) or is beating on stumps illegal maybe?
SO... if there IS any solidity, why no sex, just a nice prudish "soul merger"? Is the afterlife full of puritanical "rules and regulations" then, sort of a stifling place like imagine Salem, Massachusetts was back in 1692? Assuming "God" exists, is "he" really the blue-nose that the fundies like to make "him" out as??? And if so, what's so great about puritanism?( All it does in make people's lives dull and sucky...)
Please elaborate.

B-man

Hey Chum,

All I have read about traveling, and NDEs, suggest that the astral body is as real and as solid to them as our physical bodies are to us.  However, I believe since thought is much more creative there things can be changed at will.

I also believe that should a couple wish to copulate in a physical kind of way, it will be done similar to although different than in the earth plane.  So bring your mental appendages with you, if you like when the time comes, Chum.

M-Man

Hey,

I got a few opinions on all of this so I hope i can remember and put them all out there to see what you guys think.

First of all about a physical exsistance after death, i believe this is so, well in a way. As in we still feel, my reasoning for this is when I have astral projected I have sometimes felt just like a physical person, i feel the ground underneath me, but we aren't physically limited I believe is the correct term because we can also fly out there which I have done and feel the wind? as I have been flying passing over me. However I didn't feel cold but out there I believe thoughts create reality so if i wanted to feel cold i could. But then again I am not truly "out there" as i still exsist here so maybe things will be different, but I'm sure we can still experience physical things here over there, its just we know it doesnt have to be so. Maybe a little experiement next time I porject will be to eat something lol, ill let you know the results when it happens.

That Derek bloke (sorry not sure of name) i don't have time for or believe, the things he comes up with are easily reasearched and the "being possesed" is an act I believe, i maybe wrong but on Haunted TV i don't think they find anything too amazing so get a ok-ish medium/actor and a nervous presenter to fill in the entertainment side.

I do like some people though, Gordon Smith i believe is genuine and the way he goes about sharing his gift reinforces this face. Also John Edwards, I don't believe being a showman is wrong, and kind of believe in a way he was destined to have his own TV show because look how far he can spread the message. And I sure as hell don't see him putting on any show, a simple studio with people in where he can use his abilities to help others.

I do also believe when we go to the afterlife we cannot hide thoughts/feelings and this does change us because who we really are is out there for everyone to see. Some people manage it in this lifetime to a certain extent and I always believe these are very advanced souls. I also believe though this we are more accepting and would like to believe everyone gets along with one another in a peaceful world.

I also believe however (and yes this does go agaisnt my last paragraph) that we do not suddenly change into someone else when we pass over. So if we are evil here I cannot see how we can become humble and loving over there, but maybe this is where we look over our life and learn and grow.

Also throws me onto another point, with reincarnation I can't get my head around how we can suddenly go over there and remember all our lifes and experiences as then we would HAVE to change, like instantly. Plus who are we then? I believe previous lifes influence out lifes here now, who we are, maybe karma as well and we can review them but we are who we are now when we pass.

Which leads me onto something else (sorry!), i like who i am now, to the extent that I always want to be me and wouldnt want to reincarnate and be someone else and never be me here now again...

Going to the sex topic on the boards recently, i believe it is possible and a physical exsistance is possible over there. But I do believe we can experience greater experiences of love which over time will take over the desire for sex. If we are all that we all out there, then we can love truly and be at one completly and give pure love/pull.


Also a big area is why we are here. And i truly believe to learn lessons, we are in a world where everything is what it is. Theres no changing (excluding subconcious influence), we are who we are, theres no real eveidence where we can honestly believe life after death (and i mean as a whole world thing), I can't put what I'm trying to say into words but hope its kinda coming across. The fact that we are "limited" here creates and environment where certain lessons are learnt. If we are in the afterlife we wouldnt be able to learn these and I believe we need to learn these to grow and advance spiritually.

which brings me to my last question - why the need to grow? I mean why not, we can reach a level where we are who we are and theres love and peace and we can enjoy without bad. And apprantly there are planes we can advance higher and higher through... but is there a top? And all this we all become one i find hard to accept because if we are all one, and this "thing" which we are all in has learnt all the lessons in this world/universe experience, what happens? Do we just sit there going hmmmmm... lol. I hope that comes across right.

Anyway apologises for the long posts, they put me off too but need to blow off some steam as I havent been posting on here for a little while.

Anyway like to hear what you think.

Speak to you all soon.

Ryan

Derek acorah, is bogus - he just research's the places he goes to, most haunted is bogus, avette fielding is also bogus, anything published on living tv is bogus, and yes i like the word bogus.

@ Don,

Thanks for the reply, makes a lot of sense to me, and it fits the picture i have built up.

But what about reincarnation? what happens to the knowledge, we have gained from previous lives, if this is true?  and what happens once the spirit has reached a point of maturity? there must come a point in a timeless place - were we learn all that is learnable? there must come a point, when we have reached the top plane and then, what?

Bogus is too kind for idiots like Acorah.

Acorah = Conman

Acorah does no favours for honest mediums who try and prove their honesty.

Also the show's producers openly admitted that their whole show was a complete hollywood hoax fest.  I think it is disgraceful to pick a TV show and base it on people's insecurities and uncertainty and literally con them into the maligned drivel that the show is

So please do not take these two pillocks seriously as the show is all for entertainment.

i think derek acorah is genuine but maybe sometimes a bit  over the top, Spitfire have i upset u  at all  please tell me if i have i tried to send you a personal message but it wouldnt go through deanna

wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2006 at 9:47pm:

Bogus is too kind for idiots like Acorah. Acorah = Conman Acorah does no favours for honest mediums who try and prove their honesty. Also the show's producers openly admitted that their whole show was a complete hollywood hoax fest.  I think it is disgraceful to pick a TV show and base it on people's insecurities and uncertainty and literally con them into the maligned drivel that the show is So please do not take these two pillocks seriously as the show is all for entertainment.

Well said, do you know how much he was getting paid a show? I heard it was something like 250kish.

Jambo wrote

Leslie Flint is the worlds best ever medium in my eyes next to Gordon Smith, Helen Duncan and Doris Stokes.  I mean he was tested in every way and passed them all.

Leslie Flint was indeed the greatest Medium of all time. He once came through in a seance that I sat in nearly two yr ago. He said he felt like giving up many times in his life because no one would believe him and he was getting fed up by it all!!

His Book is  a MUST to read.

wrote on Feb 5^th, 2006 at 7:56pm:

Jambo wrote Leslie Flint was indeed the greatest Medium of all time. He once came through in a seance that I sat in nearly two yr ago. He said he felt like giving up many times in his life because no one would believe him and he was getting fed up by it all!! His Book is  a MUST to read.

amen to that.

his book is absolutely breath-taking and puts alot of his doubters to shame.

Whats interesting is that when he was younger he hated his gift!  Shows you he was not a conman.

Hi spitfire, boy such good questions. I have had the privilege of recalling much of our activity through our dreams state. And I can confirm for you that we can and do indeed have sex within the higher realms,we can experience full physical sensation as-well , touch pain in-fact everything you feel down here you can feel up there.

As for getting bored, well I think it would be hard to achieve as where so productive within that time and space.I think the one thing that keeps us coming back here is the one thing that we seem to lack within the astral plane and of-cause that one thing is emotion it is our greatest teacher after all.,

love to all

Gordon Smith (as Jambo mentioned ) IMO seems to really really know his stuff! What accuracy!!

I just found out he is at Newcastle soon but I am too late to get a ticket  :-/ but I will be watching for him again without a doubt. I will get to see him if it's the last thing I do!

wrote on Feb 6^th, 2006 at 4:46am:

Gordon Smith (as Jambo mentioned ) IMO seems to really really know his stuff! What accuracy!! I just found out he is at Newcastle soon but I am too late to get a ticket  :-/ but I will be watching for him again without a doubt. I will get to see him if it's the last thing I do!

I got a ticket for him, quite awhile back, i'll let you know what happens

I know I may have got on board this thread a bit late, but I would assume i'm the one with the least experience in spiritual exploration on this forum so this is just a theory:

Much of what we learn, what forms our character, what builds us as people often happens through painful or perhaps more accurately; challenging events in our lives.

From what I have gathered about the afterlife, we are relatively free of consequences. (at least after we settle down there) We get back our greater knowledge of self and past selves but perhaps we lack the challenges of the physical realm and return to learn more. Who would wish pain or trying times for themselves in the afterlife? Perhaps we grow stagnant?

Just a thought!  ;)

...Is it weird that my idea of 'heaven' is imperfect by nature? I mean...I hear about all this "no pain, no fear, wanting for nothing" all the time...but I don't think I could be really happy in an afterlife where there is nothing to struggle and grow against.

I have a really clear outline of what I want my place to be like, though, so I guess what I'm personally asking is that...is it possible to have an 'imperfect' afterlife, or are they going to throw you into a perfect one, even if you don't want it?