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Message started by TonyT on Jan 11th, 2006 at 8:22am

Title: Imagination
Post by TonyT on Jan 11th, 2006 at 8:22am
Last post before I go to bed.


Imagine a place where there is no competition. Where there is no purpose to better or win.

Surely that is heaven.

:)

Title: Re: Imagination
Post by Spitfire on Jan 11th, 2006 at 8:26am

wrote on Jan 11th, 2006 at 8:22am:
Last post before I go to bed.


Imagine a place where there is no competition. Where there is no purpose to better or win.

Surely that is heaven.

:)


The greatest achievements of mankind have come from competition.

Moon landing.
Air Flight.
Modern Car.

To name a few.

To stop the quest for knowledge and the advancement of oneself is to stop being human.

Title: Re: Imagination
Post by phoenix on Jan 11th, 2006 at 9:14am

wrote on Jan 11th, 2006 at 8:26am:
The greatest achievements of mankind have come from competition.


Agreed.

It is competition that causes us to stretch our own boundaries, and push at our own limitations.

We learn more from losing than we do from winning.


Title: Re: Imagination
Post by DocM on Jan 11th, 2006 at 9:19am
Competition may be an instinct that has been coupled to creativity, but the creativity, the inspiration itself is certainly distinct.

If one recognizes the unity of all things (including people), if one loves thy neighbour, competition may be fun, but also becomes less important.  However, the need to create, the need to explore, and the need to KNOW - ah, that is always present, and independent of the killer instinct of competition.

Matthew

Title: Re: Imagination
Post by Jambo on Jan 11th, 2006 at 6:02pm
Imagine no posessions... No Religion too...

Imagine all the people....

In my opinion John Lennon's song Imagine is the perfect description of the afterlife as I have learnt to know it

Title: Re: Imagination
Post by Chumley on Jan 12th, 2006 at 12:28am
That sounds more like Hell to me, Tony.
Losing sucks, no doubt about it.
But WINNING - oh man, there's
nothing like it...
Not to mention, almost all games
and activities (and even jobs) that are FUN,
involve at least SOME competition, or "keeping
of score"... even if it's just against your
own limitations (as when learning a new
skill.) An eternity of non-competitive,
"politically correct" activities? Count me
out...

B-man

Title: Re: Imagination
Post by Chumley on Jan 12th, 2006 at 12:39am
No Religion too...

Imagine all the people....

In my opinion John Lennon's song Imagine is the perfect description of the afterlife as I have learnt to know it.
*****************************
I HOPE you're just a dreamer...
But I know you're not the only one.
I hope I WON'T have to join you,
I'll be someplace where there IS some fun...
(With apologies to John Lennon...)
I'll agree with you about the RELIGION
part though. SPARE me that...

B-man
P.S. Possessions ARE a big part of the
"Good Life", my friend. Marxism-Leninism failed
for a reason, and it WASN'T just the fact that
it got outcompeted by Western capitalism.
Communism didn't make people happy, Jambo.
Think about it...

Title: Re: Imagination
Post by TonyT on Jan 12th, 2006 at 6:34am
Guys you all missed the point.

Im imagining my perfect place in the afterlife. Without human limitation ie, the need for competition. The afterlife can be anything we desire, it does not have to be humanised...

Obviously competition plays an integral role on pant Earth.


:)

Title: Re: Imagination
Post by blink on Jan 12th, 2006 at 9:57am
Tony,

That is right on.  Share, share, share, folks.

It is all about sharing.

love, blink

Title: Re: Imagination
Post by spooky2 on Jan 12th, 2006 at 8:27pm
Tony, I agree. Without competition it's more heavenly than with. For example:
I play a musical instrument. Sometimes I felt anxious and tensioned when one came around who plays the same instrument, because I guessed this guy plays better than me, I'm such bad, just a bloody beginner. Okay, I forced practising until I became better and better. The interesting thing was, this competition feeling remained until I became aware of it. I'm working to remove it totally, and it's a complete different approach. It's to enjoy what I do. Competition kills enjoying, because you never get a rest and never come to peace.
 So, it's much better to let yourself be inspired by other people rather than to feel competitioned by others. Comparison is ok, but competition drives you crazy in the long run I think.
Spooky

Title: Re: Imagination
Post by Jambo on Jan 12th, 2006 at 10:59pm
Simple philosophy before sleep

HUMAN NATURE = COMPETITION

HUMAN NATURE + COMPETITION = NORMAL EXISTENCE

HUMAN NATURE - COMPETITION = COMPLETE WASTE            
                                                        OF TIME/LIFE

Competition in my eyes is neccesary for all life on this planet to exist, without sensible competition nobody would want to achieve anything, would want to invent anything etc etc.  Just think competition played a massive role in all of our births.

Title: Re: Imagination
Post by TonyT on Jan 20th, 2006 at 7:29am
Spooky,

I studied piano for 8 years and performed for many more. I remember the competition, not a bad thing here but hopefully not there. I will not share my achievements with you to avoid further competition.

At the end of the day, my music comes from within.
One day you may hear it from afar.

regards,
TonyA


Title: Re: Imagination
Post by Nje on Jan 20th, 2006 at 12:39pm
There's different types of competition, don't generalize it as all bad.

Title: Re: Imagination
Post by Marilyn Maitreya on Jan 20th, 2006 at 5:36pm

Quote:
Imagine no posessions... No Religion too...

Imagine all the people....

In my opinion John Lennon's song Imagine is the perfect description of the afterlife as I have learnt to know it  


I totally agree Jambo. ;-)

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