Am curious if anybody here besides Bruce and the ultra mysterious "Rebecca" has run into another Disk member in this life?  I wonder how often it happens..?  Are "Twin Souls" connected at the immediate Disk, or at the "next" more expanded Disk 2 (according to Bruce, he or we have 8  ).  

 Anyways, i think i may have run into another Disk member of mine, and recently a good and very psychic friend of mine here, told me a dream she had about me having a twin.  

 I dunno what the dream meant, but it made me think of someone i use to know, and who i felt very, very deeply connected too.

 When i was in Tewksbury Memorial High (MA), there was a fellow student who lived in my neighboorhood named John N, and who rode the bus with me.

 I had some classes with him as well, but though we talked and smoked up a few times, we werer't really friends, more like casual aquaintences.

 Funny thing is, is that when i was a lot younger, and had earlier lived in Tewksbury (i moved A LOT during my school years), i was actually friends with his older brother Mike, but lost touch with him when i came back and was in High School.  We actually had become friends because he was older than me, picked on me, but i didn't take it though i was much smaller, and apparently he admired my big kiones  ;)

 Anyways, John was an interesting guy from what i knew, he was very artistic, seemed very intelligent, deep, and thoughtful, but he was more of a "cool kid" who hung out with the tough crowd.   I was very shy and reclusive then, and rarely talked to anyone, but had a rep as a "tough" kid or good fighter, a little "touched" in the head, though i was very quiet and "smart".   People tended to avoid me cause of my intensity and strangeness, and strange interests like astrology, or reincarnation.

 I was extremely attracted to John on every level but physical.   Sometimes i would find myself staring at him and wondering about him, and why the heck he seemed so goshdarn familiar.  I had met others who seemed familiar and who i felt i had known, and pretty much summed it up to reincarnation (then the more "traditional" belief), but this was much more powerful and intense then these other meetings.

 I would catch him staring at me a lot to, and i could tell he was thinking the same thing, something like, "what is it about this kid?"

 We were pretty similar in a lot of respects, i also was a really good artist, and though John was in the cool and tough crowd, he seemed to have a lot of integrety and often stuck up for kids who were picked on a lot.

 He also looked a lot like me in some respects, though his coloring was dark wheras i was more blond reddish, and he was taller and a bit thinner.  He was like the me, had i been a bit more "adjusted" and hadn't gone through so much emotional and physical stuff for so long.   A bit healthier version of me, though he apparently had his childhood problems as well.  

 I can't stress how much i felt connected to him, and how i couldn't explain it at all.

 Towards the end of high school, i went to a psychic with my mom, and had a reading as well as a past life regression.   During the reading part, i asked her about John, and why i felt so connected to him, and she told me that he was my psychic twin.

 I didn't understand what she meant, having never heard the term before, and i tried to get some clarification, but she didn't really explain it too well.

 So, i filed it in the back of my head.  I ended up never becoming friends with John though we occasionally talked about shallow stuff, and he knew i had been friends with his older brother.  

 I didn't attend the last year and half of High School because of health problems, and was home schooled till i graduated.  

 I lived in Tewksbury for a couple more years then moved, and didn't see him anymore.   I would occasionally dream about him, and it was pretty much like we were just checking up on each other and seeing how the other was doing.  These dreams always left me with a very happy feeling.

 Many, many years passed, and i don't remember dreaming about him, or thinking about him except for very rarely.   But not too long ago, i had a dream where he had just moved into a new "dorm" and was getting used to living there.  He seemed pretty happy there (in C1, i don't think he ever went to college, or so a friend told me later).

 A couple of weeks later, talking to my long time friends from High School (a couple who moved out to OR a few years ago), one of my friends blurted out, "John N. just died a little while ago!  He was in a car crash, and died instantly..."

 I immediately thought about my dream, and realized what it had "meant"....  But anyways, i am really, really strongly considering that John is another personality belonging to my Disk, and that he was working more with 2 other personalities in my Disk also named John, who were hard livers, more so than i.  

 John N. seemed to stay in the "party", drug, and drinking scene much longer than i, and seemed to be playing out some more of the other John's karma and dynamics, and like those John's he was extremely attractive to the opposite sex and had a lot of charisma and magnetism.  

 Something i also had, but didn't come out to later, and not something i cared all that much about being on a spiritual path.  I was hung up for awhile in wanting to be "enlightened" (ha, what an illusion that was too!).   I did have a lot of girlfriends, but usually ended up on the receiving end of being lied to, cheated on, or emotionally abused/manipulated often... I attracted extremely wounded relationships for awhile.  Very much feel i was balancing these other personalities, the two Johns lives and karma, for awhile till i met Becky my Twin Soul.

 Well enough rambling, anybody else think they may have run into another Disk member?

That's an interesting story, old friend, and especially because you had that dream about him before he died. I have had relationships of this sort, where an "instant" connection formed. For instance, I had a friendship with a woman years ago which formed the exact second that I met her on the stairs of our apartment complex. Our eyes met and it was as if we had always known each other. This was not a physical attraction but simply a deep "knowing" kind of friendship which seemed to materialize out of "nothing" and if you have experienced this kind of thing then you understand what I mean.

It always makes me wonder when I look back over my life if there were things I was "supposed" to accomplish with some of my relationships and if I have failed them.  In all honesty I have never been a particularly stable friend and "lose" relationships regularly along the way. I actually have No long term relationships of that sort except for one recently renewed, from the very distant past, which confuses me a bit, and I am strictly loyal to family only. I relate to the "wounded relationship" syndrome also.

What I am interested in right now is finding a way to heal whatever relationships I have on a soul level. Perhaps my own interest in the "afterlife" has been a subtle nudge from the "guides that be" to complete some of the work I was sent to do here. I know I have gone very very far off any original path that might have existed; however, it seems that our "guides" can lead us back into a place where healing is possible, no matter where we find ourselves in our lives.

I admit that I am rambling and will be very interested in answers from others here, but how fascinating it is to think that you had a connection with someone in your childhood that you maintained on a "soul" level until his death.  Perhaps there will be another message from your friend.

peace, blink

I live in a house formerly owned by a member of my disc. I won't go into how I was lead into this house.

She was 92 when she passed a couple of years ago. She still comes around and 'plays' with me. Of those I can communicate with, including occasionally my guides, she is the easiest.

Rob

I have a belief that everyone we meet in life whether physical or non/physical is supposed to occur for a reason; even the difficult relationships and especially these kind, I also feel entering and leaving relationships is ok even when closure cannot be gained at that moment of leaving. closure is down the line.

so heres my story I've told this before, but I loved it so much, got so much out of it that I guess I can tell it again.
I put a different spin on it, to say animus and animi. male and female polarity energy within. I believe this can be attained on a spiritual level that we should be able to acquire this balance within if we study our selves.

one time I was feeling too feminine, too passive as it were. I could not make a decision. I thought in my head about what is polarity energy, why are men able to make decisions and I seemed I could not find logic. I was thinking of my husband how when alive I would want to do something crazy, but he was so logical that he could talk me out of it and I would listen, thinking maybe he was right. I leaned on his calmness.
well, he's dead. not dead exactly, I have gone to see him now and then to see how he's getting on. he's fine. doing well.

anyway, one day I was wishing I had within me the power to not be so wishy washy and just do what had to be done in a bad situation so I had an extraordinary meeting with my male side within an obe as I needed some strength and to stop seeing myself as too passive. the passive I see as female side, the active, I see as male.
so, where oh where is my balance to find?
symbols of a meeting I was given:

I walked into a house, saw several guides around in the shadows directing me here; I looked into a mirror, I did not see my current reflection, but the guides said to be patient, somebody was coming. a male with my same eyes stepped from the mirror to appear in front. I thought he looks awfully Italian, what a coincidence, I'm so fond of Italy.
the guides said this was my male side, we had split into two. The feelings which rushed over me was this in mental telepathy..god! I haven't seen you for so long! I felt great longing to stay around him but it could not be so until after death. so we took advantage to be joyful we even had this much contact. he was casual, like he expected me. we just stood there grinning a lot. I asked him how I was doing? he said you're doing swell! you're just making up problems to solve that's all! we talked briefly about raising kids as we were both into the same methods. my mother had become  a child and so I needed to know how to "raise" her. then I asked did he ever come to peek in on my life, just as I had peeked into his? yes, he said he came round a few times, but I had not noticed.
there was no merge that happened, because we were the same people and u can't merge with what you already are.

I came back to C1, this was amazing, I have a male side and he lives in this time frame.
I now could stop seeing my self image as just passive and realize I had that active principle within me and had raised my kids the same way he was doing..by letting them fly and find out on their own the hard way, the kids always come back later and say..well, I found out you were right..but I had to do it anyway to test out my limits.

ramble ramble ramble...still studying what the disc is..hear tell theres thousands in the disc...so that's a little different than what I'm talking about. love, alysia

wrote on Jan 1^st, 2006 at 11:07am:

That's an interesting story, old friend, and especially because you had that dream about him before he died. I have had relationships of this sort, where an "instant" connection formed. For instance, I had a friendship with a woman years ago which formed the exact second that I met her on the stairs of our apartment complex. Our eyes met and it was as if we had always known each other. This was not a physical attraction but simply a deep "knowing" kind of friendship which seemed to materialize out of "nothing" and if you have experienced this kind of thing then you understand what I mean.

Am glad you found it interesting.  I definitely know what you mean about the deep "knowingness" aspect, which is a big part of the reason why i very much believe in other lives of some sort....


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It always makes me wonder when I look back over my life if there were things I was "supposed" to accomplish with some of my relationships and if I have failed them.  In all honesty I have never been a particularly stable friend and "lose" relationships regularly along the way. I actually have No long term relationships of that sort except for one recently renewed, from the very distant past, which confuses me a bit, and I am strictly loyal to family only. I relate to the "wounded relationship" syndrome also.

 Just gonna share some perceptions... I'm no Dr. though.   As i sure you know, looking at it as "failing" isn't the best way to approach it, though i know we often can't help such feelings coming up....

 It could be a few things, or a mix of things...  Perhaps your Total Self rolled together this person called "Blink" from a pattern of lives/personalities which had been extremely clingy, and very attached to personal relationships...  Especially ultra "safe" ones like friendships?  Since friendships are often the most truly accepting, and closest to our spiritual energy relationships as Souls?  Meaning most have had friendships were they don't feel the need to be something they're not, and they don't feel their are powerful strings attached, etc...

 Maybe as Blink, you are meant to act as a balance to that, but often when balancing an extreme pattern, sometimes we end up going to the opposite extreme?   Balance, balance, and moderation seems to be key to many things in life.


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What I am interested in right now is finding a way to heal whatever relationships I have on a soul level. Perhaps my own interest in the "afterlife" has been a subtle nudge from the "guides that be" to complete some of the work I was sent to do here. I know I have gone very very far off any original path that might have existed; however, it seems that our "guides" can lead us back into a place where healing is possible, no matter where we find ourselves in our lives.

 The question is, is this something that needs healing because it is something that bothers you and saddens you...  And if so, how much do you want healing of it?

I've been reading your posts for a little while now, and this is the first time i've read you opening up about this, and sounds to me like a step in the right direction, and thank you for sharing here on this thread.  I consider this a soul gift from an old friend.   I think talking about stuff is sometimes more important than we realize, if only to get it out and try to express, and as we consciously express, these unconscious dynamics become a little more conscious, which makes it easier to work out.

 Can i be very honest?

  Maybe its best to try to heal it in C1, make some friends and C1 and try to maintain it, even if its hard..?  I think this is what C1 is all about, relationships and them helping to work out our kinks and illusions in them.... Accept this part of you, because this is very important...but move on and develop, cause if its bothering you, its bothering for a reason, no?  It sounds like you have already tried the acceptance part, but because you haven't fully done the extra steps, its still nagging at you...  Our feelings are very important clues in what we do need to work on karmically, and its really again just about balance and experience.



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I admit that I am rambling and will be very interested in answers from others here, but how fascinating it is to think that you had a connection with someone in your childhood that you maintained on a "soul" level until his death.  Perhaps there will be another message from your friend.  peace, blink

 I like your rambling!   Its refreshing after experiencing the ultra covert, say very little, "mysterious" and hard to know Blink.  Feel like you are connecting and going beyond fear when you talk like this, especially out in the open.   Again, i very much appreciate it :)

Deep Peace to you, and thanks a bunch

wrote on Jan 1^st, 2006 at 2:41pm:

I live in a house formerly owned by a member of my disc. I won't go into how I was lead into this house.

 Lol ok, but you know how curious that makes me?!


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She was 92 when she passed a couple of years ago. She still comes around and 'plays' with me. Of those I can communicate with, including occasionally my guides, she is the easiest. Rob

 That would make sense if she is part of your Disk...  Its interesting that you, Bruce, and I met Disk selves but they died not too long after...

wrote on Jan 1^st, 2006 at 4:04pm:

I have a belief that everyone we meet in life whether physical or non/physical is supposed to occur for a reason; even the difficult relationships and especially these kind, I also feel entering and leaving relationships is ok even when closure cannot be gained at that moment of leaving. closure is down the line. so heres my story I've told this before, but I loved it so much, got so much out of it that I guess I can tell it again. I put a different spin on it, to say animus and animi. male and female polarity energy within. I believe this can be attained on a spiritual level that we should be able to acquire this balance within if we study our selves. one time I was feeling too feminine, too passive as it were. I could not make a decision. I thought in my head about what is polarity energy, why are men able to make decisions and I seemed I could not find logic. I was thinking of my husband how when alive I would want to do something crazy, but he was so logical that he could talk me out of it and I would listen, thinking maybe he was right. I leaned on his calmness. well, he's dead. not dead exactly, I have gone to see him now and then to see how he's getting on. he's fine. doing well. anyway, one day I was wishing I had within me the power to not be so wishy washy and just do what had to be done in a bad situation so I had an extraordinary meeting with my male side within an obe as I needed some strength and to stop seeing myself as too passive. the passive I see as female side, the active, I see as male. so, where oh where is my balance to find? symbols of a meeting I was given: I walked into a house, saw several guides around in the shadows directing me here; I looked into a mirror, I did not see my current reflection, but the guides said to be patient, somebody was coming. a male with my same eyes stepped from the mirror to appear in front. I thought he looks awfully Italian, what a coincidence, I'm so fond of Italy. the guides said this was my male side, we had split into two. The feelings which rushed over me was this in mental telepathy..god! I haven't seen you for so long! I felt great longing to stay around him but it could not be so until after death. so we took advantage to be joyful we even had this much contact. he was casual, like he expected me. we just stood there grinning a lot. I asked him how I was doing? he said you're doing swell! you're just making up problems to solve that's all! we talked briefly about raising kids as we were both into the same methods. my mother had become  a child and so I needed to know how to "raise" her. then I asked did he ever come to peek in on my life, just as I had peeked into his? yes, he said he came round a few times, but I had not noticed. there was no merge that happened, because we were the same people and u can't merge with what you already are. I came back to C1, this was amazing, I have a male side and he lives in this time frame. I now could stop seeing my self image as just passive and realize I had that active principle within me and had raised my kids the same way he was doing..by letting them fly and find out on their own the hard way, the kids always come back later and say..well, I found out you were right..but I had to do it anyway to test out my limits. ramble ramble ramble...still studying what the disc is..hear tell theres thousands in the disc...so that's a little different than what I'm talking about. love, alysia

 Really kool experience there Alysia, thanks a bunch for sharing!

 I agree with you that sometimes we need to move on from relationships...but there seems to be many different types and layers to relationships.

 I guess it all depends on what you need at the time...

But, when you have a very challenging and difficult relationship, sometimes it's best to try to work it out, if the other party is all willing.

 People would often ask Cayce's source about relationships, and whether they should go for this person, stay with this person, break up with them, etc.

 Cayce's source often said that this is best reasoned within self, that self has to make the choice, etc.

 Often, the Source would hint at general prinples, and point out that we are in relationships for reasons, and that self is always meeting self, and unless a person is being completely torn down by another, then why not work out your lessons in the present instead of putting off, cause you're just gonna attract a similar dynamic somewhere on down the line.?  

 Not something most would want to hear, to take that much responsibility...cause most of what happens to us, really and truly is Karmic in nature, or self meeting self.

 Sometimes its not something we actually did, or didn't do, but just the conditions right for our growth, so in a sense self is still meeting self, but not necessarily in a Karmic balancing way.

 So i'm an advocate for staying in difficult and challenging relationships, unless they are so extreme as to cause damage to self because there is no way to cope with the others reactions (like being physically abused, or always put down and never held in a positive light).

Peace old friend,
Justin

Hi Justin,

I'm glad you found a meaning to my dream of you.   This dream in particular is more complicated than my normal ESP dreams.  The symbols in it are a bit more vague.  I think that is because the meaning is more spiritual, whereas my normal ESP dreams are about specific physical world information.

Justin, I know you said you didn't know what the dream meant but that it made you remember your friend.  Here's my notes of the dream, for you or anyone else who is interested.  

11/27/05
"I know/feel/see Justin in front of me to my left.  I feel his presence.  Across from him to my right in front of me is a large white die (a single dice).  It is showing "5", with five black dots.   I get a knowing sensation that Justin branches out, (like the branches of a tree that I see in my mind's eye in the dream), and in this branching out way he is connected with the die.  I also have a knowing that Justin has/had a twin.  He either doesn't know this or doesn't want to know, or doesn't accept it."  

Ok, so maybe it's not a cool in the telling to anybody else but me, but I love these kinds of dreams.  I've had many ESP dreams, and they mean nothing to me but when I give them to whomever they are about, they have meaning to that person.  Also of interest to me is this dream was more of a hynogogic state type dream, with my conscious awareness during it.
So Justin, do you know if the number 5 holds any meaning?  

 Hi there Vicky,

I think your dream was probably multi-layered....

 Mostly what i get, especially about the "5" and the die part, is in numerology 5 is the active and change (growth through friction) number par excellence, and can be considered very masculine (all the odd numbers represent the masculine 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 but because they have a nucleus or center with an equal but opposite force, they are inherently stronger and more balanced number energies as well, basically the even numbers represent more material and weaker conditions).

 It seems to be strongly related to Mars energy, which is that of red, physically vital and very active energy.

  5 can also be confronational because of its assertiveness and positive active outpouring of energy...  a bit, "in your face" type of energy, as pure masculine energy is often.  But 5 is also a bit like Mercury, very much a mental and thinking number as well, very conscious--logical thought oriented, so kind of like the vibration of yellow as well.

 I spent 20 years of my 25 years being extremely passive and feminine, and very, very quiet and only concerned with "spiritual thought".   I was a extremely good listerner, but not a great talker.

In the last few years i've been bringing in a much more active on all levels, physically, and especially trying to live and hold my own in C1 consciousness...basically realizing that no matter how much i disliked the pointless "rat race" that our failing and falling apart system is based on, i still had to live within it....   I use to want to be a monk, for quite a while, whether Buddhist or Trappist, it didn't matter, but i didn't want to "deal with the world" as it was...

 Needless to say, it was a huge illusion of mine, and part of my growth lately has had to do with being more "5" like...  But, its a balance, and sometimes in my relationships, i can temp. be a bit too 5'ish as you all saw not too long ago.  

 But overall, its very important for me to try to become ever more 5ish, yet balance that with my originally more passive and receptive way of dealing with stuff...  

 The great thing and healthy thing about aligning with masculine energy, is it helps to get the "sh*t" out of us, to express, so we are able to deal with unconscious stuff better...

 Extremely feminine, right brain energy and ways of dealing with stuff, tends to be extremely unconscious and "hold it in" type of energy, even if the person cries or gets upset, it doesn't mean they truly are dealing with it, or letting it go... and they rarely realize the reasons behind the feelings... and so they continue to feel those ways, and have those patterns in their lives, especially with relationships and attracting the same stuff which upsets them time and time again...  Feminine=right brain= "unconsciousness"....  Masculine=left brain=conscious direction

 So yeah, its all basically about balance...and those smart ancient Chinese philosophers were certainly on to something when they built all their belief systems around the concept of balance, of Ying and Yang.

 Someday we all be He/She's!  Awesome eh, can't wait for that, but will try to enjoy life and live in the present in the meantime...but then again, past, present, and future, its all now eh... ;)

Happy balancing to y'all

Justin: So i'm an advocate for staying in difficult and challenging relationships, unless they are so extreme as to cause damage to self because there is no way to cope with the others reactions (like being physically abused, or always put down and never held in a positive light).
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yes, sometimes must walk, sometimes must stay. listen to the inner voice. sometimes must be very quiet find out the right thing for the highest good.

The dearest person in life to me, I feel, I'm connected to in some way. I can't exactly explain the feelings surrounding both of us to people who don't understand.

She went away for 10 days, and I barely ate, talked or slept until she returned, not out of any pining, but because I had no will whatsoever to. We have felt on several occasions things that happen to each other, such as emotional pain or sickness. We can barely go a day without talking to each other. We dream about each other nightly, and often share dreams. When we speak, we often say the exact same thing at the exact same time.

It's odd, because she and I were born on opposite ends of the world, in opposite cultures, but we ended up just a single block away from each other.

So I don't really know if that's what you mean, but it's uncanny, to me. I don't understand our relationship any better than she does. *shrug*

 Hi there P.A.,

 Yup, again i can relate to you...and i agree, i also try to look at everyone as being part of my Disk...and they are but relatively and technically speaking, we are connected at the 8th Universal Disk, which Bruce called the Planning Intelligence, the Creator God of this Universe and of our Souls.

 Different Disks represent different major energy relationships...for example, i believe that my Fiance/Twin Soul and I are connected directly at the 2nd expanded Disk...

 At the 3rd our perhaps my lives in other systems outside of the Earth...

 At the 4th perhaps my immediate Soul group connections ( a few here are in there)...

 The 5th even more expanded, perhaps the next Soul Group which is energetically related to my Soul Group.
 
Etc. to the 8th Disk, or the all....and then beyond that, creating New Universes with my immediate Disk Self and Twin Souls Disk, Divine Cosmic Love making eh?  Birthing new Souls and Realities to experiment with.....

 Hi there Sasuke,

 Hmmm, i wouldn't be suprised if you were immediate Disk members, but i am leaning to believe that you are perhaps Twin Souls-- directly connected at the 2nd Disk level?

 My Twin Soul was just a friend and coworker my "last" life timewise (though extremely close), and now is my Fiance.

 The closeness and psychic bond is simply amazing...if if one is uncentered temp. boy does the other one feel and it and suffer too unless there is a high degree of mental detachment and Pure PUL at the time.

 I think she has another Disk member in this space time too, a much older lady, who i don't really know very well by association (but feel i know very deeply), but would like to know better.

 I would love for them to meet, and see the reaction!  Who knows, it might happen someday as we all live in the same state.

A while back I was meditating one day, and I heard a voice say, "Albert, laughingrain is a member of your disc. As opposed to thinking about this message, I continued to meditate until I clicked out. As soon I came back, the first thoughts that came into my mind were: "Albert, laughingrain is very special to you." I asked for confirmation, and was told Tennessee Walz.

I asked Alysia about this and she said that she used to sing the song. I don't know how many people have.

 The question is, which Disk?

 There are many here who are part of each other's Soul groups, which is a much more expanded and collective "Disk" than the immediate, all lives personally related to you type Disk.

 I think Alysia, you, and many others and me are in the same Soul Group, and so many of us have strong karmic ties from many lifetimes.

 I have seen this in various chart comparisons, and in tuning in.

  Alysia is a dear Soul who unfortunately we have had some very close, and in other cases difficult and stressful relations from other lifetime dynamics.  

 Hence the "mixed" bag reaction which eventually took place, but was preset set up by our mutual Disks.   She is right in a sense, we used each other for specific teaching purposes, and we both had different lessons to learn from each other.

 Same with all relationships, some are less extreme and not so much a mixed bag.

 You and I have a mixed bag type energy relation from other lives, though connected deeply at a more expanded Soul level.

 Tim F. and I have an extremely extreme and mixed bag Karmic relationship, yet connected on a Soul group level.

 But, i think its important to stress what P.A. was trying to point out, its that ultimate Oneness which is ultimately fulfilling.

 Yet at the same time, becoming conscious of these other type of relationships, and Soul group connections is very important as well, but relatively important.