By close proximity to an exploding nuclear device?
After all, if our "soul" is a field of pure energy... then
might not a MASSIVE, unconstrained release of pure energy (from a device in, say, the megaton range) disrupt the individual pattern of energy comprising an individual's "soul" to the point that it was obliterated?
(Possibly, the same thing might be doable with an extremely energetic beam weapon of some kind.)
Just an interesting philosophical exercise...

B-man

This assumes that the soul exists in the same plane of existence as the bomb only, or that the bomb was so powerful that it would obliterate multiple dimensions of matter.  

Theoretically, our awareness is a sign of inner divinity; a part of God, if you will.  I would be surprised if any weapon could extinguish this.

If one wishes for oblivion, if ones mind is set on it, I'm sure there may be a way to achieve it.  But there is so much to live for/explore.

Matthew

Do atomic bombs destroy matter smaller than atoms ?

We should check it out.

If the ideas from IANDS are true, the soul would be a pattern of quantic waves. I doubt a puny nuclear explosion would disrupt them.

If we are only matter, than we are only our bodies, and there is no afterlife.  If our conscious awareness is independent of physical reality, than no explosive on this plane can injure us.  "Spirit is something that no one destroys."  At least I heard that in a song by Traffic from the past.


M

Woo, that's a dark train of thought, my friend. Somehow, though, I doubt that very much.

the other dimentions cannot be destroyed they exist independently of this one.if someone desires personal extiction then, i believe they will recieve it, you reap what you sow

other "dimensions" are just parts of the real world that we don't detect with our senses.

If the other dimensions were truly independent, than our soul could not be linked to our body. They would be independant after all.

No Brendan, our souls cannot be destroyed. Where do you come up with all these questions, theories?  Or maybe the question should be WHY do you come up with these questions/theories?

Brendan,

Forget for a moment the question of whether a nuclear device can destroy a soul.  One of the best methods for discerning astral truth is independent corrobation from sources with different overviews.The possibility of POSTMORTEM soul annihilation in independently confirmed by the New Testament, Jesus' teaching to atheist Howard Storm during his NDE, and Bruce Moen's astral exploration.  What remains unclear are the exact stages by which this soul annihilation is chosen or inflicted.  

I can just imagine a postmorten tour of the lower astral territories in which my guide says, "See that disintegrating cloud of once- conscious energy over there?  That used to be Brendan.  He couldn't tolerate the absence of physical sex over here.  And he couldn't find the gambler's hollow heaven to fulfill his obsession with blackjack.   So he decided to just "wink out."  ;D

Don

prove what you all say, its nothing but conjecture

are you insane?are you suggesting the spirit world
can be destroyed???????

kinda of subject, i apoligze B-man but in a way it isn't...

If we reincarnate and through many lives of different personalities (??) we gain loads of experience which unconciously i believe affects our present but oviously its hidden from us and kept on the other side so we can grow in our limited selfs here, which is what here is about i believe...

But i can't see how we change when we go back over there...for me I am me now, the way i think, me, my essence is me and always will be. I don't see how we can change when we are over there (apart from growing over there), because if we do go over there and remember them all and act from them as a whole from them which makes us....surely we are different...how can we just change just like that to encompass everything we have learnt because then really we aren't who we really are here, and i wan't to be who I am here over there.

Maybe all we our are personalities and when we go back we join to a higher soul which is all of us and we still exsist but as one and not who we really are here, i don't understand how this works though??

but then if we are all one and one day we all join up and have learnt everything then what is next? What is the purpose of this overall higher energy/soul except for sitting around for nothing?

Just something I'm thinking about at the moment that seems kinda relevant in the way that what is the purpose in the end?

Ryan

Well thats me confused reading what I put, hope it makes sense.

An easier simple way to get across my point is now I'm 18 and have some experience. 40 years down the line I will be different because of my experiences, we all change, now what i mean is i can't just suddenly change (pass over) and have the extra 40 years experience as I will be different just like that...

Ryan

Good points, Ryan.  If we are more than we think we are, then perhaps there are different levels to our understanding of "ourselves" in the afterlife, just as there are here.

In a way, you can look ahead 40 years and see that you will be a different person and yet somehow there will still remain the essence of who you are now. When I was 19 I found myself wondering who I would be many years later, and how I would see myself, and I wrote a poem for myself to read later, so that I could feel the "essence" of myself at that later time.  Kind of like a time capsule.  I wrote a lot of poems, and they are like time capsules into the past.

Perhaps our hearts and minds are time capsules here on earth, and all of our existence is captured and saved in some incredible "computer" which can be accessed by our "higher" self.  We can then revisit our much loved "selves" and experience any aspect of our lives.  

Ryan, I would encourage you and anyone else to write down your deepest feelings and thoughts in some creative form.  Put them away and look at them much later, 20-30 years later.  It will be of immense value to you.

Just as I would like to believe that all of us, and each of our experiences, are of immense value in the afterlife.

blink

Chumley,

If a nuclear detanation can't destroy a cockroach, how could it destroy a soul?  :o

Bob

The energy from a nuke (or perhaps a super-beam of some kind) is ENERGY in its pure form.
Now, in our dimension... energy (or "light" if you please) has slowed down its "vibration" to become dense matter. Okay...
Meaning that all of us (and everything else we see in this world are essentially "light" in a denser manifestation... this is the conclusion that modern science has reached, even if it doesn't like to USE terms like "beings of light" this is basically what physics tells us.)
Okay...
Does pure energy (whether from a bomb, "phaser weapon" or what have you) exist in this dimension only? Or being essentially non-material (that is, ENERGETIC) is it capable of disruption of the energy fields in "higher dimensions" even as it disrupts/destroys the "low vibrating" energy fields which we call "matter"?
(This assumes, of course, that dimensions (or "planes" if you like) are interpenetrating with one another, and not separated by ANY kind of "distance.")
If this is true, nukes and energy weapons would be FAR more potent than traditional bombs and bullets, as they would have an "transdimensional" effect. Might be the basis for some good science fiction (or "science fantasy" perhaps...)

B-man

No, a soul cannot be destroyed...but, as always,

you have to gravitate towards all truth's, and all in it's good time.

Love
uwe

you are still crazy

What is crazy?

B-Man, good philosophical exercize.

I agree that if a soul were a field of pure energy (or any other physical form, assuming that energy is an aspect of the physical level of existance), it could be destroyed.

I don't believe that is what our soul or essence is nor where it is, so perhaps my answer to your post won't be of much interest here.

I had an experience of leaving the physical level of existance, and since I tend to believe my own experience, I believe that our souls are "residing" in a non-physical "place" of pure light, pure love and pure being. Nothing can be destroyed there because there are no opposites there and only an opposite can destroy an opposite: an identical can only love.

Peace,

Laurie