hi friends and family..I've posted this last year but I've edited it so it's more easy to follow, I hope..we have  a young fellow here, name of Ryan who is studying obes..I'm hoping he reads this and that he might try it and get back with me his results to see if it works for him, although anyone who likes to experiment, I certainly would like to know of their success or failure as well...(failures are good things too! it just means you are one step closer to success...) ;)

Are We Balls of Light?

Thinking that I always experimented going obe flat on my back at bedtime, promptly falling asleep,  I wanted to try something different. I’d do it wide awake and sitting up; surely I would not fall asleep sitting up?
  Wondering what it was like exactly to be very relaxed while awake, I thought about being tense versus not tensed. Starting with the toes on up to the head I would search out every muscle I could mentally find in my physical body. Does the big toe have a muscle? What about the tongue? I found muscles I never knew were there. The idea was to energy gather and all my energy was trapped in the tenseness of my body. By the time I’d reached the facial muscles, I decided if nothing had happened, I’d begin all over again, committing myself to a 20 minute period to avoid  frustration of the thought of possible failure. I’d relaxed everything and found I was still in my body, so I began again and felt my mind begin to get still and expectant; embracing the possibility of success now. It was much more pleasant to embrace the feeling of success than to think of failure. It was a little like trusting. I knew the average concentration span was said to be two minutes. If I could remain centered for 2 minutes or more without thinking about some annoying task left undone I might be successful. Give myself a chance, so to speak.
 I remember glancing at the clock and I’d been attempting to still my thoughts for 15 minutes. Another 5 minutes of discipline and I’d try again another day. This thought of 5 more minutes of effort to keep my mind placid and expectant tended to relax me even more. But it occurred to me I didn’t yet have a destination. Then I thought I’ll visit someone in the physical. My brother. I hadn’t seen him for years and it might be fun to pop up and give him a mild fright for a moment. Just a prank. This gave me an objective location which I’d not thought of during my other experiments; it would also provide the element of fun, reinforcing intention. Here I was using both intention, which is mental,  and emotion which is astral; together in balance, I might have success.
  Just before calling it quits I felt something really subtle going on between my eyes. I felt and heard a pop noise like something had opened, and whatever it was seemed physical. All my attention went to the brow area in wonder. DP reminded me to stay calm and not get too elated or I’d blow it. It was difficult to not be too elated as I could almost hear the energy moving outward between the forehead and this was unexpected. I was to keep the mental and emotion in perfect balance. Whatever had opened within this forehead portal had allowed some energy that I had been gathering from within my tense muscles to project forward. As I entered this current with my awareness I had body form and found self walking down a country road surrounded by trees, thinking “well here I am, I finally did it!” My mind felt like it was projecting itself on a film roll which kept extending outward, while a location within the brain maintained a sense of being in two places; within the body, in the chair, upright and without a single itch to distract me, but also on the screen which unraveled for me with no effort. Feeling exhilarated, but taking DP’s advice, to not get too excited, I was on the move traveling to California. What street to take? Pacific Coast Highway came to mind. I was desiring swifter movement and running turned into flying and as I flew I watched in astonishment as my arms and legs one by one disappeared until I viewed myself as simply an orb of light which was able to travel at much greater speed than the body form I had begun with to my growing delight. At first though, I asked DP if it was ok not to have my body parts; what would I do if I needed to pick something up? Something told me I would not be needing to pick anything up with my hands; not in this dimension of reality. The answer was to flow with it to see what would happen.
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if anyone wants to know what happened after that, I can post more...but the main reason I post this, I wanted somebody to try this energy gathering technique. Bruce has it here somewhere on this board I'm sure. I think I stumbled onto the same method here. for me, it convinced me that we are more than our bodies, however the best method to go obe is to travel on PUL or gratitude, and this experience was more like a lesson for me rather than a spiritual experience where PUL manifests and is felt.

Hi Alysia

here with the usual weird questions....Conciousness is the final frontier...and the first frontier...and the only frontier...

(ps once I realized that, I couldn't set the usual regular goals for myself anymore either; I forget where you posted the goals comment; I always forget which thread I'm on since the topics overlap)

so how did your experience compare with a dream? with the way you remember a dream? I had a time when I was terribly traumatized over a period of time and there were moments when I felt like I was in a movie...like, I was looking at the shops I was driving by and I thought maybe they were the sets for a movie because they looked just like I was in a movie ( and how I so wanted to rewrite the script!). Of course, the best part of your story is having put yourself there at will.

Perhaps a difficulty arises if we understand 'normal' consciousness as our daily physical one, instead of it being one among many aspects ?

wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2005 at 12:42pm:

Hi Alysia here with the usual weird questions....Conciousness is the final frontier...and the first frontier...and the only frontier... (ps once I realized that, I couldn't set the usual regular goals for myself anymore either; I forget where you posted the goals comment; I always forget which thread I'm on since the topics overlap) so how did your experience compare with a dream? with the way you remember a dream? I had a time when I was terribly traumatized over a period of time and there were moments when I felt like I was in a movie...like, I was looking at the shops I was driving by and I thought maybe they were the sets for a movie because they looked just like I was in a movie ( and how I so wanted to rewrite the script!). Of course, the best part of your story is having put yourself there at will.

there u are Lucy! you might think it a little weird, but while I was posting the above, it was you who was on my mind..he he, and here u are! besides Ryan that is.

ok, we're connected. u ask how it compares with a dream. in a dream I always have the form of the body. the unexpected part was losing my legs and arms, watching them disappear scared me, but since I was also aware that my physical body sat in the chair, I was able to understand I was in two places and still had the physical arms/legs.
this type of projection was no break inbetween waking and sleeping state. u know how a dream is, when u are groggy waking up, and trying to remember the dream, then it trickles in and u start remembering? there was no need to remember what took place as there was no sense of having been asleep.

isn't it interesting how more and more stories here are relating about these experiences as being like a movie film? I think we have some common ground here..maybe we can see where that takes us.

my theory, not my theory, Cozzolino's book gave it to me....is that my senses, especially the eyes..are projecting light...like the eyes are projecting the set out there, which I get to star in, according to my beliefs.

so when u say, you were going thru a hard time and feeling like it was all a movie, u can see that positivily also, that it is a movie, and the scenes keep shifting.

Hi Hiortia. yes, good question to ask, what is normal? maybe no such thing as normal is best way to look at it. :D