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Message started by EileenY on Nov 26th, 2005 at 10:43am

Title: Question from a Newbie
Post by EileenY on Nov 26th, 2005 at 10:43am
I am new to all of this.  My husband recently died.  He was young and in great physical shape and he wa very happy.  The Drs tell me he had a undetecable heart anomaly, that has no symptions.

Has anyone where contacted a loved one who was passed?  If so what books or tapes do I start with?

Any help would be appreciaed.  

EileenY

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by Marilyn Maitreya on Nov 26th, 2005 at 11:41am
Welcome Eileen.  I am sorry for the passing of your husband. Go to the top of the page and you will see Bruce's books and tapes. I would encourage you to read his books but you can also jump right in and get his latest book and CD's which are actual workshop experiences.

Yes, many of us here do contact the deceased. I've been doing it for almost 5 years now. It is so much easier than one would think. Put aside all doubt and trust what you are getting.

Good luck and hope to hear of your experiences.

Blessings,
Mairlyn ;-)

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by laffingrain on Nov 26th, 2005 at 11:47am
yes Eileen, I have done it. please go here http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/contact.html

when u try it, you may see how subtle it is, the give and take is like energy flowing back and forth between you and he, when the energy settles into the heart, you will have your contact established! please post your experience later if you feel like it! cheers, alysia

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by lydia on Nov 26th, 2005 at 12:51pm
hi Eileen im very much sorry for your loss ive as well just lost my bestfriend/boyfriend a month ago so i can imagine the pain your going through.  I stumbled across this website out of curiosity and let me tell you the people here are so very supportive its nice to talk to people who have gone through what you feel. As for contacting the other side i havent really been quite able to yet. It does get frustrating oh let me tell you lol but i guess it takes practice just dont give up when you think you have nothing and its all in your head, plenty of times ive thought that it was just me making it up all in my head but its better to talk to them whats the worse that could happen? as for you, theres a lot of friendly and supportive people here. well take care

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by chilipepperflea on Nov 26th, 2005 at 12:58pm
Hi Eileen.

Welcome to the board.

Im sorry to hear of your loss. But yes you can still contact him and he has just moved on and still around with you. I would suggest Alysia's link first and give that a go, a very easy way to start talking to the other side and very successful as well.

I have to agree with Lydia as well, we are a very friendly group here and love to help and pass on our support anyway possible so if you just want to talk or ask questions, don't be afraid and we will do the best we can.

All the best,

Ryan

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by Rob_Roy on Nov 26th, 2005 at 1:33pm
Eileen,

Welcome.

You have my unconditional support.

with Love,

Bob

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by Berserk on Nov 26th, 2005 at 3:39pm
Eileen,

Take heart from a study that revealed an inspiring fact: 50% of Americans and 48% of the British who were studied reported contact with their deceased loved ones within the first year of their passing.  I have made it practice to ask recent widows and widowers if they have been contacted by their beloved.  Many of them register surprise at the question but then often share an impressive experience of contact.   I tell them that this success rate is what motivates me to pose the question.

It might  be useful to be aware of the variety of ways contact might be achieved: e.g. dreams, apparitions, a sense of touch on the shoulder, a signature odor (e.g. cologne, pipe tobacco), a sense of your bed being affected by some force, moving objects, or simply an overewhelming sense of his presence.  Keep us posted if you feel that contact has been made.

Best wishes,
Don

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by Rob_Roy on Nov 26th, 2005 at 5:35pm
Beserk,

How can I get my hands on that study?

Bob

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by EileenY on Nov 26th, 2005 at 6:22pm
I want to thank everyone for their help and wonderful post.  This is a very difficult time for me and it helps.

I tried the the link that alysia gave me.  Thanks, Alysia.  I felt what I would describe as engery bubbles around my heart.  They felt about a foot away from my body.  I have never done anything like this so I am totally unsure.  

I desperatly want to talk with Michael.  I will continue to try.  

Don,

I believe I have had some contact with my late husband.  But, I am not sure.  I have listed them below in case you might find them of interest.

1)  Last Saturday  My dog began barking and looking up at something at a distance.  I let him out of his crate and he  ran and went up to the doorway to the living room barking. Looking up. Then turned quickly and ran behind me.  What he does with people when he is afraid.  

2)  My husband has a cologne with a distinct smell.  My dog spent most of Thanksgiving in the kitchen.  Which I thought was odd since I wasn't in the kitchen and was not celebrating Thanksgiving.  When he came running into me he smelled exactly like my husband.  My cousin was dropping by and I didin't say anything to her and she said that dog smells just like Michael.  

3)  While putting on one of Michael’s favorite movies, Star Wars, I turned on a lamp with a long, twin- tube florescent bulb. The bulb flickered slightly and streaks of light flowed up and down the tubes a few times with a crackling noise before fluttering out entirely.  At closer examination, I found the end of the bulb sheared off.  The light had worked fine the day before.  I called and asked a couple of people and they told me that the blub should not have worked at all.

I sometimes wonder if I am going crazy.  

Thanks everyone for all your help,

EileenY

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by Berserk on Nov 26th, 2005 at 7:06pm
Rob, I read about the study in an NDE  book several years ago, but can no longer recall which book reported on it.  I'll let you know if I can track it down again.  What I don't recall are the criteria for what counted as a "contact" with deceased loved ones.  The criteria are important to me because, for example, I am more suspicious of dreams than apparitions as a source of alleged contact.

Eileen, your reluctance to claim contact from these unusual experiences is admirable, given the pressure of wishful thinking.  I would encourage you to suspend efforts to resolve whether you believe that any of these incidents are genuine contact.   Such an obsession can drive one mad.  I suggest you instead meditate on your experiences with a sense of childlike wonder.   Perhaps, one of our experiences will  grafually loom as the most  promising and kindle a sense of knowing.  That said, let me share an experience that illustrates why your "odorific" experience  seems the most promising of the experiences you reported.  

I reported this incident here several months ago.  I had coffee with Gordon, an old acquaintance from my youth who is now on a ministry staff.  We swapped stories of our encounters with the superanatural.  Gordon told me about Anne's death.   Anne was an elderly woman in a nursing home.   During a visit, Gord noticed a bottle of lilac cologne beside her bed.  He asked her if she'd like an application.   Anne replied, "Oh that would be lovely."    So Gord called a female aide and asked her to apply the cologne.   Anne sighed with delight, smiled intently, and lay back, suddenly dead!   What a way to go!  

At the same time (2PM), several miles away, her daughter was working in the barn with her husband.   Suddenly she asked her husband, "Do you smell that?  The smell of manure seems to be overpowered by the smell of lilacs."  The husband replied, "I was just going to comment on that."  Imagine the daughter's surprise when she discovered how and exactly when her mother had died!"  No one seemed to know how the bottle of lilac cologne got there.   Eileen, your independent confirmation of your husband's cologne odor reminds me of this charming incident.  

Don  

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by spooky2 on Nov 26th, 2005 at 7:17pm
Hi Eileen,
when I read about the flickering light bulb I thought of the laser-sword in StarWars.
Spooky

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by Vicky on Nov 26th, 2005 at 8:41pm
Hi Eileen, and welcome.  Sorry for your loss.  I'm sure you'll find some answers and hopefully a lot of comfort here on this forum.  


Your accounts you described do sound like valid attempts of contact, and like Don has said, I too suggest that you meditate on them.  I'm happy you are paying attention and taking notes.  You will certainly find the answers you are looking for.   :)

Don, I love the cologne story!

Love, Vicky

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by Rob_Roy on Nov 26th, 2005 at 10:13pm
Thanks Don.

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by Tai Pan on Nov 27th, 2005 at 1:46am
Hello everyone,
        I am also a new member.  I have been reading alot of the message traffic for the past six months.  I am in the same boat as many of the other newbies.  I lost my mom a few months ago.  I have been trying to make some sort of sense of all of this.  I read this post and I had more questions about the advice the senior people were giving.  I just ordered the 5th ed. book and 6 cd set.  Is this the right package for a bone stock beginner?  I noticed you guys refered the other girl to some different books.  Since I am new at this, should I be reading some other books first?  I guess what I am trying to ask is, are these books going to help a new comer understand the principles and fundamentals behind afterlife exploration?  

Thank you all very much.

Tai

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by Vicky on Nov 27th, 2005 at 7:35am
Hello Tai,

It is always nice to see new people joining here!   :)

Since you feel like such a beginner, I am pleased to see you get the Guidebook and CD's right off the bat like that.  Your desire for afterlife exploration will give you the answers you're looking for, I'm sure.  

It's hard to say what books you should read first, all we can really do is recommend books to you that we've read and what we've gained from them.  Everyone's journey is a little different.

Anyway, there is a lot of material on this site that you will find so helpful.  And certainly reading Bruce's other books will give you a wonderful understanding of his journey and it will answer a lot of questions for you.

We have a bunch of avid readers here, so getting book recommendations will not be a problem!  
:)
Love, Vicky

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by Cricket on Nov 27th, 2005 at 4:17pm
Eileen, I lost my husband the ninth of this past September.  Funny thing is, I've pretty matter of factly dealt with our resident ghosts and spirits for years, but now I second guess every communication I get from John (I suppose because it's so important to me).  I haven't been pushing real hard yet, it's early days and it seems a lot of the deceased seem to wait until we "get it together" enough that we're not going to go heading off after them or something drastic like that before they give us real strong communications (though certainly some show up right away.)

However, if he still has any interest from the afterlife in the barn staying upright, he's gonna have to send me some lottery numbers!  

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by EileenY on Nov 27th, 2005 at 6:27pm
Cricket sorry for your loss.  It is horrible.  

I have never dealt with anything like this before, I am new to all of the Afterlife stuff.  Everyones post have been very helpful.  

My main concern is that I have to talk with Michael.  He died without being ill and not in an accident.  The Dr said that he had a undetable heart anomaly.  He didn't know what happend.  The people who were there told me it was as though he walked out of his body.  

I will continue to try.  I will post if I feel Michael has made more contact with me.

Thanks everyone for your posts,

EileenY

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by laffingrain on Nov 27th, 2005 at 8:18pm
maybe Michael's higher self knew what he was doing for a reason Eileen? I've heard of this before, where people just seem to go to sleep and...just leave..I'm thinking theres a reason and we can discover it with persistence in asking...very well, I know you must miss him..I am sure the bond is unbreakable..except in appearance. funny how some of us suffer for many years, and others just walk away...pay attention to any dream contact and let us know..wishing you well, alysia

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by Rob_Roy on Nov 27th, 2005 at 10:22pm
I believe she's opening a door for you, pointing the way, Eileen.

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by lydia on Nov 29th, 2005 at 4:05pm
hi Eileen,
      i was reading on how your husband died. That was very strange. it must be soo hard on you i can relate to you so much my boyfriend/bestfriend just died a month ago from a heartattack which i as an CMA think is strange considering he was 24 in good health. I know he was actually taking meds for depression and anxiety. the night before he passed i called him at night and we talked, the prior week weve were having a lot of trouble with the relationship becouse he wasnt on his meds and that made it difficult to be around him well back to what i was saying i called him and he told me that everything was going to get better between us and that he was starting a new kind of medication i was very thrilled. well the next day i kep calling but got the busy line so i left, later that night i came home and his mother called to inform me what had happened. I honestly went nuts and had to be hospitilized i didnt know what to do with myself or why this happened and i very much blamed myself for not trying harder and not saying i love you the night before. well still is a mystery on why he died? i like you am very hurt (sorry if im rambling i just seem like you understand my situation more) i feel soo lonely i know i have my friends and family but lonely in a sense where i lost my soulmate,bestfriend and companion. So ive been trying so hard to contact him and im getting nothing! i cant even dream of him which im pretty upset becouse me and him very much believed in ghosts and always said that if it were one of us to past wed contact each other and nothings happen? i dont know maybe hes lost nad hasnt crossed over? well sorry to vent i do feel a little better to talk to someone

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by EileenY on Nov 29th, 2005 at 4:44pm
Lydia,

I am so sorry for you loss.  I do understand.  Unless someone has gone through what we have they have no idea of the pain and regret we feel.  Friends and family try but they just can not understand.  It really is as though you have gone insane.  I keep expecting Michael to call or walk through the door.  I can't handle the thought of never seeing or hearing from him again.  

I keep telling myself Michael knew I loved him I am also sure boyfriend/bestfriend knew you loved him.  But, we both want answers as to why 2 young healthy men died.  The lonliness is so horrible.  Michael was my bestfriend also.  I understand exactly whay you are going through.  There is no one to talk too.  

I think I have had signs from Michael.  Have you been doing the http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/contact.html

I have been doing it.  I am not sure it is working.  But, I keep trying.  I am afraid Michael is lost.  

I am not dreaming either.  But, I haven't for a long time.  Different people on this board told me to set my INTENT before going to bed.  I have been doing that but nothing has happened yet.  I will post if anything happens.  

Please let me know if you do make contact.  Also, post if you just need to talk.  This is such a horrible thing to go through.

EileenY

Title: Re: Question from a Newbie
Post by dave_a_mbs on Nov 29th, 2005 at 9:31pm
Hi Lydia and Eileen -

I regret your loss, and especially the sensation of the empty place left by death.  All who have lost loved ones can empathize.

However, the biggest block to getting in touch with our loved ones is usually our own refusal to accept their continuing presence.  Common ways to detect their presence include electrical phenomena, odors, half-seen images, coincidences of every sort, the behavior of pets etc.

Bruce's "book five" is a How-To for soul retrieval, that gives relatively systematic methods of developing your own abilities to interact with the departed. I personally enjoyed it.

For more technical help, the IARRT is an organization of professionals interested in work with the souls of the dead.  I'm a member and do similar work, and I've found it relatively easy to reconnect people with their deceased loved ones.  Most hypnotists can do the same work, providing that they've had adequate exposure to the principles involved. There's a How-To on my site at www.mbs-hypnoclinic.com
under "stuff to read" - if you can find it.  Given this information, you should be able to find a local para-professional therapist who can work with you.  

The difference between using a regression session and your own senses is primarily a trade-off in which you have less immediacy, but can converse, as opposed to the sense of presence and intimacy, but little conversational flow. My personal suggestion is simply to express love, interest,  and confidence that everything will be OK, and then wait for feedback. That way you stay "in touch", and no "outside presence" is needed to make it work.

As an example, look at Alysia's posts (as one instance) and the strong sense of love that she exudes. That keeps the doors open.

d

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