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Message started by woaimimi on Nov 16th, 2005 at 12:36am

Title: OBE
Post by woaimimi on Nov 16th, 2005 at 12:36am
Hi everyone~ I was just wondering if anyone here has tried, or is able to perform OBEs? Today when I took my wife to college, I decided to go out to the car and try to just have peace with my father who recently passed on. I was thinking about trying to have an out of body experience, and from what I read I thought that I would try. So, I relaxed myself and tried to concentrate as much as I could. Well, at one point I remember feeling as though I was beginning to float, however, as much as I tried, I could not get out of my body. I am not sure if it was just my imagination, or hopeful thinking do to the strong desire to contact my father. Does anyone have any comments or suggestions here? Thanks so much. ~Dan

Title: Re: OBE
Post by chilipepperflea on Nov 16th, 2005 at 12:39pm
Hey Dan,

One quick point, don't confuse OBE's with a spiritual path or contacting the afterlife (all though it is all mixed in), what i mean is when i first started i thought OBE's was the only way to communicate and explore, plus i loved the idea anyway, this has always been one of my main interests but have learnt so much from being her. I do have OBE's and so do quite a few here and loads of people have had them.

Personally at the beginning I would suggest being in the car is not the best place to begin, because of distractions, your mind needs to be able to forget about your physical here so you can focus your energy on achieveing this state.

Im just on my way out but will post later anyway witha quick guide if you like, hopefully i can explain a lot of things which wernt clear to me at the beginning and can save you some time. Just remember it won't happen over night though, depending on your beliefs etc will govern the time it takes but you sound set in the right place on that side.

Speak to you soon,

Ryan

Title: Re: OBE
Post by Lucy on Nov 16th, 2005 at 1:20pm
There are many things you can "feel" with different aspects of your conciousness....

do you ever feel humongous and everything around you small (in spite of how it al looks). ortiny when all else is large? Do you ever feel like time is stretching or modulating?

you must have other sensations you can't really place...like feeling you are about to float.

wrt obe's, some people feel tingling or vibrations...not floating ...see Bruce's link to Albert Taylor on the links page.

Title: Re: OBE
Post by DocM on Nov 16th, 2005 at 1:59pm
I am not sure that we truly have an astral body and "travel," I think that our consciousness can explore and that some of us need to create an astral body to do that with.

I think that experiencing an oob state can come with deep relaxation, and the idea of being a "floating entity," observing the real physical world of C1 is not very common.  Some would wonder whether OOB is just a hallucination due to sensory deprivation...I do not believe this to be the case.  I believe that we all have a deep connection to each other and the world as a whole, and can simply focus our consciousness while relaxed and connect with somewhere else.

I had my first waking OOBE a few weeks ago while commuting in a train.  I was relaxed, and suddenly, while putting my intentions into being in my home, I was in my bedroom, not in a dream, but it appeared real.  I knew that I was on a train at the time, and when I felt the hardwood floor and saw my three year old's toys and things in a manner that they were , I "choked," and said "this can't be," and pulled myself back to the train.

This was a very short expereince - may have lasted 10-20 seconds.  But wow.

Matthew

Title: Re: OBE
Post by woaimimi on Nov 16th, 2005 at 7:28pm
Thanks everyone for your comments. And Ryan, I would appreciate it very much if you could help guide me with this. I am new to all of this. Thanks~

Title: Re: OBE
Post by Vicky on Nov 17th, 2005 at 11:58am
Dan, I agree with the previous comments here.  There are many ways to explore and communicate out there.  Also, there are different ways of experiecing being out of body.  

If you want to reach your dad, I suggest the best way is through your dreams.   Personally I don't have any experience with going out of body in the classic sense from the waking state (as you tried in the car) and ending up in a non-physical place (which is where your dad is).  I think you need to try an easier technique.  Your try wouldn't be for nothing, but I think you need to incorporate other techniques along with your attempt, and realize that your results will come in different forms.

What I mean by this is, one thing I do often is to project my thoughts consciously and visually when I want to make contact with someone.  And during this process I guide myself through it by basically making up a "day dream" scenario.  I can get into it and make it very, very real, although it will not feel like a classic OBE.  What I do realize though is that this technique actually does allow part of my consciousness to project my intentions out there, and in that process information may be brought back to me.  That information can pop up and manifest itself in various ways, such as in a dream later on.  Or in some kind of "coincidence" in my waking life.  Or having some ESP type knowledge that later gets confirmed.  I believe this process would work on the living and the dead, although I use this technique on the living, when I want to visit someone or send them my thoughts, etc.

My point is that when we use the imagination, it can be hard to pinpoint where the line is between what is made up and what is real.  I only know what I know from practice and experiementation.  But we are all creators, and I believe there is no limit to the imagination.  Love is an extremely powerful tool, and when you couple it with pure intention, you can make things happen.  

Doc M, thanks for sharing that experience.  I know exactly what you mean.  I have had the same kind of experience before and like you said it was very short but very real.  

Love, Vicky



Title: Re: OBE
Post by chilipepperflea on Nov 18th, 2005 at 1:18pm
Hey, just wanted to update, I havent forgot the guide i'm going to put up here for you Dan, i'm composing now, been a bit busy with work but it will be up tommorow.

Speak to you soon

Ryan

Title: Re: OBE
Post by Shirley on Nov 19th, 2005 at 5:13am
Like the others here, I have found that oobe and contacting others on the otherside are two different things.
The times I've gone oob, its been here, in C1.  
Contacts with the otherside have been different..more like a "vision" type thing, but I use that word loosely.  Its hard to describe.
Often, I'm just "there"..but also aware that I am "here".
In oobe, I'm more aware of being "out", than "in".
One oobe was so real, I didn't realize I was nonphysical..until I couldn't turn on the light.  
During visits to my friend who passed over nearly a year ago, I was somewhat aware of "here".  That is, I knew where I was, but yet a part of me was there, talking to Jerry.  That is posted in the retrievals forum.
That would also be a good place to start to see how one contacts those on the other side too.

Title: Re: OBE
Post by woaimimi on Nov 19th, 2005 at 11:28pm
Thank you very much. I will go check that out now^^

Title: Re: OBE
Post by chilipepperflea on Nov 20th, 2005 at 6:37pm
Hey, back for the guide...

I swear i wrote something down about this before somewhere I have been trying to find which was layed out good and had a lot of information in, i was going to use it as a template but can't find it so will attempt to write a new one but this will be all over the place as I often go with the flow and write what i think at the time so make sure you have a bit of time to spare...lol

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A Quick Guide To Experiencing OBE's
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Ok well preperation for an OBE. To be successful you don't want to fall asleep so make sure you have plenty of sleep so your mind has the enough energy to stay awake, but don't have too much sleep as you will find it hard to get to sleep lol, but getting sleep is good beforehand. Also the less distractions are better so try somewhere where its quiet and relaxing, turns the lights off (i always seem to notice them) or have them low. Make sure you haven't just eaten or haven't at all and also not thirsty. Basically make your body happen and comfatable so it doesn't disturb you! Remember you are not just your body, much much more!

Next thing to do once your body is comfatable in itself is to go to your place where you willl be trying to go OBE. Now you can sit down or lay down, i prefer to lay (actually never tried sitting up as its harder to do without being disturbed where I live) but you can sit. You need to get really comfatable, so you wont have any distractions at all on your body. Also make sure the room temperature is enough for you to be ok in, not too hot, not too cold. You notice all the requirments tend to be in the middle (e.g: not too cold, not too hot, not hungry, not too full), follow that principle you should be well prepared. Another quick thought don't be scared to be in bed with the cover on, i use to think this would prevent me going OBE, not that the cover is in the way! Just i could feel it etc, but when the time comes you lose feeling in your body, well i do and so this won't be a distraction.

Ok so now we are prepared and comfatable in our position. Take a few moments to make sure you are happy. Next thing is to close your eyes and start relaxing. When you close your eyes don't go looking at the darkness in fron of you, feel it, or ignore the viewing of it. What i mean is your going to see darkness oviously but don't stare at your eyelids! relax your eyes and its almost like you see the blackness in your mind rather than through your eyes. Ok so now breath slowly and really go with this, feel every breath coming in and out, occasionally take a extra long breath and wind down with this, feel yourself getting deeper and deeper and your body relaxing more and more. If it feels heavy this is ok, go with this feeling, if it feels light thats ok, go with this feeling too. Just switch off and breathe and relax and wind down. This may take a few minutes or 20 minutes or longer but just keep with it.

The idea here is two shut down, forget about your body so there are two ways to go about it. Stop thinking! is one way, harder said than done but just concentrate on breathing and just try to be mind quiet and imagine yourself as a space of nothingness, no words or pictures or thoughts of my own will enter here. If you are succesful at this things will happen, but like i said this is harder done than said. Ok so what will happen now, you need to stop thinking, (this will help relaxation quicken), your relaxing and your comfatable but you don't know this right? because your've stopped thinking, good! Now at this point you won't remember anything, time has no effect as your not thinking, not remembering, the next thing you will know (unless distracted by either yourself thinking or noises) is that you are floating, or starting to float, or some weird energy is in you, or vibrations or a noise. Everyone seems to experience different things, specially with experience. My first successful attempt i feel all light and floated, got vibrations and a loud rushing noise through my ear. So you will get one or more of these energys, ok now remember what we have been doing, not thinking! So now would not be a good time to start thinking as this will spoil the experience, remember your trying to trick yourself your going to sleep when you not really! So when these noises/vibrations come you notice at first and go ah-hah so this is what its like to begin to OBE! Well stop thinking again as soon as your relise your thinking, but now you have distractions! how can you not think!? well simply explore these distractions, i'm going to refer to one to make it easier to explain. Say you have vibrations, instead of thinking, 'wow i have the vibrations to more to think about them, try to feel them, become them, feel at one with etc, imagine they are taking over your body, give your body to them? All this kind of thinking...which doesn't require mental thinking increases the vibrations and allows them to go furthur. The noise for example will get louder and louder and louder but don't be scared or alarmed, this is normal, try to hear it more and more and more and then suddenly......your'll be OBE with no prior recollections of your attempt too. What I mean by this is it won't be until you wake up your remember laying there for ages and getting vibrations. Its almost like your to distracted in your OBE to care or remember!

Also if it is too hard Instead of trying to quiet your mind and breathing etc try to think of a scenario. For example you were playing football. Now imagine kick off and imagine the whole thing, you have to let this match take over you though, think of nothing else, including the desire to have an OBE or use this as a way. You need to have 110% concentration on this match. Imagine the ball, where its going, you kicking it, players reacting, the crowd, let whatever take over, just feel that this match is real life and you arent really lying down imagining it. Soon the details will get clear, like you are day dreaming, soon it will be fully 3D visual,, and it will take over and you are most probly dreaming but haven't relised yet. Then next thing you know you might be OBE and will remember nothing of the imagination/daydream/dream untill you woke up.

Thats what happened to me, i woke up (which i think is the best time  for any attempt) as you are rested and relaxed and imagination is better plus your not thinking about your daily stresses so maybe sunday morning when you can lay in is the best time to try this

Anyway i woke up and went back to sleep then wok up again and layed then imagining a scene. For all of you who don't really know me i Love New Zealand (family from there),I am planning to move next year, visit my cousins who have just been over here for a while. ANyway i imagined flying over and then visiting and surpising my cousins, and then we went out and they were showing me Nelson. because i was rested and relaxed this scene took over and i thought of nothing else, suddenly i was OBE with no recollection of ever thinking about new zealand until i came back out of my OBE (my OBE is posted in another thread i started today called "Another experience..." i think.

I would suggest trying the not think method for a while at first to begin with however.

So another pointer is you must keep trying, for me this took a while, i even gave up (lost interest?) as nothing happened and left the board for a while, i was young and impatient lol (still am) and then came back and it wa sonly when I said, why am i trying I can't do this something happened which couldn't have been timed better! As here I am today! But don't worry time are different for everyone so don't feel it may take a while, but be prepared.

I guess there is one secret rule to having an OBE is apart from being relaxed and comfatable which everyone can do...it was always the next part people found hard including me. i relised to go OBE the principle is not too close your mind but to focus on one thing, channel your energy if you like....

...by doing this, with no distractions you are chanelling, focusing so whether you are visiting your cousins in NZ, playing a football match or thinking of nothing (which is the hardest!) its ok. As long as you are thinking of one thing and channeling everything into this. I use to get the vibrations then get excited and think "I'm doing it, i'm going to OBE!" then because i was THINKING TO MUCH i lost it.

So remember when you laying there trying to quieten you rmind you don't have too! Just concentrate on one thing and go with it! If your new this may not work i don't know, you may have to do this a few times to build up your imagination to thelevel required....also i didn't recieve vibrations..whether you will or won't i couldn't say but if you don't....thats one less distraction...

Another thing is for me when I got out i didn't have a set agenda so ended up in my room and didn't know what to do but explored anyway. Just think before when i get out i want to explore my house! then when you get out you will have this on your mind, the first time you wont go far and it will probly end quick, you will relise what is happening, that you OBE and moving in your house and for me the excitment and feelings were too much! haha

By with time and practice and experience they will last longer and get more clearer as your abilites of perception open up and improve. If you only hear this from me I am living proof of it but i'm sure most people can say with time and practice it improved, like with everything. Don't get me wrong, you will be able to see clearly out there, its more remembering as well.

which leads me to my next point, as soon as you wake up write it down! It will help you remember, although saying that with all my OBE's i can remember them, even see them clearer, but i forget what i have had, when i see them again (by reading them) i remember again. Plus you can copy your experience and post on here as eveyone loves sharing and reading and helping.

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Well this was a bit rushed and and a bit all other the place so read it a few times and get familar with everything so you know what to expect. Sorry for the late reply! and best of luck with this. With paitience results will come. And if you have any more questions do not hesistate....i promise my answers wont be so long next time! haha

Ryan

Title: Re: OBE
Post by chilipepperflea on Nov 20th, 2005 at 6:38pm
Wow....just relised thats one big post for me anyway....hope i don't put you off!

Ryan

Title: Re: OBE
Post by woaimimi on Nov 20th, 2005 at 7:56pm
WoW! Thanks so much. Very interesting! I will print it out:)

Title: Re: OBE
Post by lydia on Nov 21st, 2005 at 6:41pm
hey ryan i read your post on how to obe im going to try but question? do you need to have and psychic abilities to do this or can you be a regular person?

Title: Re: OBE
Post by Justin2710 on Nov 21st, 2005 at 7:35pm
 Sorry for butting in for a question geared to Ryan, just wanted to say, thats the thing Lydia, we all have psychic abilities but most just use them unconsciously...

Like getting feelings about certain people when you meet them, knowing when someone is calling before you pick up the phone, etc.

 Psychic abilities are natural senses, and like with muscles, the more they are worked out, the stronger they become.  Its true that some people are born with more developed and innate abilities, but that is often due to them exercising these abilities in other lives.

 Imagination is very strongly linked to psychic perception, and consistent visualization really can jump starts the whole process.

 Regular meditation of some form or another, also awakens these latent senses, not too mention all the other benefits of meditation like decreased stress levels, and increased feelings of peace and joy.

Hope this helps a bit

Title: Re: OBE
Post by chilipepperflea on Nov 22nd, 2005 at 12:41pm
Hey,

Justin don't be sorry, I'm glad you did you explained it all so well! Its all open to everyone right? So butt in lol because its good!

Like Justin said keep meditating! You said in your other post you didn't have much success with keeping focused in meditating, well even by trying is a success because your practising and the furthur you go the better you get, this is why you have to keep with it. From what I read you were doing really well, better than some at first so don't worry just enjoy it!

Also for me i feel going OBE and being pyschic is not related....i know were all psychic deep down like you said Justin, but what i mean is your pyschic abilities don't have to be discovered to go OBE.

Ryan

Title: Re: OBE
Post by Victoria27 on Nov 23rd, 2005 at 11:22pm
Hi My name is Victoria.  I'm a  little frustrated as I had typed a whole lot and somehow hit a button and lost all of it!!    AAAAhHH!

I'm new to this site....came across this website a few days ago and I'm hooked.  I really enjoy reading the postings.  It is so nice to read experiences that are similar to mine.

I've had more than  a few OBEs myself, although lately I haven't experienced them.  Probably due to the stresses in my life now and the fact that I haven't really tried.  The OBEs usually happen without me even trying.  The first couple times I was so afraid...afraid of the vibrations, the buzzing in the ears, and the feeling of being pulled out of my body.  In the beginning I would try so hard to not be pulled out of my body.  That was the sensation I would get.  I come from a family of 15 and amazingly all of siblings have experienced an OBE, my Mom as well.  Some more than others.  Some only had it happen once.  But after talking to some of my brothers and sisters and getting encouragement and reassurance that everything was okay, I become more comfortable with these experiences.  I have to admit I'm not as experienced as most of you on this forum.  I'm always excited to hear people's stories and experiences.  I love to learn more about these.

During one OBE I was able to meet my husband's great aunt who had passed away.  My husband was unable to say good bye to his aunt and guilt was bothering him for years (long story, I won't go into details).  Anway a week before my OBE, I told my husband that if I could meet anyone during an OBE, I would want to meet his Aunt.  I've never met her or seen her before.  I asked m y husband what her full name was and wrote it down on a piece of paper. Not sure why I did that, but I felt if I wrote it down It would stick with me.  Later that week, as I was resting I finally had a full blown OBE and was outside my home.  I couldn't believe I was doing it and was so excited!  It was the first time I had actually left the house.  I was outside looking around and decided it was the perfect time to call for Jon's aunt.  I had no idea if it would work but I tried anway.  Surprisingly a figure in the distance started coming closer and it was a woman....I could go on and on about the expeirence, but to make it short..I was able to tell her that my husband loved her so much and wished he could of said goodbye to her...that it was really bothering him.  I wanted her to know that he thinks of her often and that I was so happy to have met her.  She smiled and laughed...and to make it short pretty much said everything is just fine....there was more to it, but it will take to long.  After while, I felt myself being pulled back to my body and I told her it was time for me to go.  This experience is so vivid to me and i'll never forget it.  I get all emotional when I tell the story. When I came to, I wen to my husband and told him that I had just met his Aunt!  I described what she was wearing and what she looked like and He couldn't believe it.  The description was exactly her.  I was able to let my husband know everything was okay and that I met his Aunt.  

It was nice to hear the suggestions on bringing about an OBE.  Tonight I will atttempt to have an OBE or at least get the vibrational state.  

I'm sure you'll see me more in the future....

Victoria

Title: Re: OBE
Post by Justin2710 on Nov 24th, 2005 at 4:38am
 Great experience Victoria.  Just wanted to say hi.  Welcome to the group too.  Don't know much about OBE's in a personal sense myself, but love to read others accounts.

Create a great day,
Justin

Title: Re: OBE
Post by chilipepperflea on Nov 24th, 2005 at 11:38am
Hey Victoria!

Welcome to the site! Hope you enjoy being here, everyones really friendly and we all learn so much from other, plus its really good fun here :)

Well I am about as OBE obbessed as ya get, As I'm sure others would agree here lol! don't get me wrong I explore other ways (not until recently and very thankful to members on this board who have helped me do so). But i really do love OBE's.

I've always had a interest in the afterlife every since I was young and found this board and learnt I could communicate over there and explore this new world! And I could also visit as me, and fly and do anything in a real world like this, i was hooked and amazed at this and wanted to see what it was like! So i came here and tried and tried and talked a little and nothing would happen (as in OBE, i got a few bits) so my interest died and i came away for about half a year.

Then i came back with a vengence! haha i was going to do this and wouldn't give up so kept trying and one day it happened and that was one of the best moments in my life! Slowly but surely I kept experiencing and learning and improving my abilities and got to meet and get to know some wonderful people on here in the process which have helped me loads but also been so much fun getting to know everyone, we have a really good group here! I know your feel welcomed.

Well there are many ways to explore and this is where I'm at. I have had proof of contact in OBE's with Vicky and Alysia (who are members here) but nothing with the otherside as yet. So i really enjoyed reading about yours! Wow if you didn't believe you sure would of done then! It was so good to hear you have got this already :)

Well glad your've joined us here and can't wait to hear more!

Ryan

Title: Re: OBE
Post by chilipepperflea on Nov 24th, 2005 at 11:40am
Oh yeah we also have partnered explorations occansionally where we all meet up other the other side and compare accounts and have fun! You seem really good with the OBE's already so i'd definatly say come join along if that interests you at all.

So how long have you been experiencing OBE's? Have you had any other experiences?

Ryan

Title: Re: OBE
Post by Victoria27 on Nov 24th, 2005 at 1:43pm
Hi.  Thanks for the welcoming :)

I have to work soon, so I can't write much.  I will definitely write more tonight or tomorrow sometime.

Yes I have had other experiences.  
I'll post soon!

Talk to you all later!

Victoria

Title: Re: OBE
Post by Victoria27 on Nov 25th, 2005 at 8:26pm
To answer your question Ryan, I started having these experiences in my late teens  or very early 20s.....I believe.  

Since having the experience as stated above, I did try once to contact my Dad who passed away of cancer.  I tried probably about a month or so after he died.  I did the similar thing, called out to him while I was having my OBE.  I was in my bedroom at the time and I seen a figure walking towards me from the hallway.  Everything though with this experience was foggy and I couldn't make out this figure.  He came right into the bedroom, and I asked if was my Dad and asked how he was doing, if everything was okay.... He didn't say really anything, but I just had a strange feeling about it and snapped back.  When I was up and thinking about it, I just didn't have a good feeling about it for some reason.  I don't know why and it still bothers me to this day.  I haven't tried since to contact him...that was a couple years ago.  Maybe it wasn't my Dad.  For some reason I just didn't get a happy doing good feeling. :(  

Maybe one day I will try again.   I think deep down I'm afraid for some reason.

Would love to hear some other stories from you all!

Victoria


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