Hereunder you can find the link to a summary of a Buddhist point of view of Justice:

http://www.eugenebuddhistpriory.org/justice_interfaith.htm

Thanks, white feather, for pointing out this interesting article.
I am glad to see this summary of Buddhist attitudes.

I have a very different take on this. I think that justice is not
included in the design of the universe. Like, the Tsunami at Sri
Lanka, the earthquake at Bam Iran, and in Pakistan, and hurricane
Katrina, are nothing to do with justice or morality.
They are properties of the physical universe, which has no
morality.

Therefore it is futile to look for justice there. Trying to find it
by some kind of mental manipulation is just a silly exercise.
Justice is mainly a human invention. In psychology 101 I learned
about the mental mechanism of projection, which is the projection
of thoughts we have, onto others, that assumes that others also
have these thoughts. Humans think in terms of justice, and project
their ideas of justice onto the universe, but they do not fit.

In my objective view, the random activities of nature are not to be
treated as justice or injustice. They are just hazards that exist,
that we must accept if we are to incarnate on Earth. There is no
need to put meaning in these things that is not there, or infer
intentions on the part of some entity, when no intention is
involved. The activities of nature will merely have good and bad
results in some proportion.

There are a few times when an intelligent entity will insert some
intention to alter the expectable course of events. But that is a
special case, not the typical course of events.

Just need to throw my 2 pennies in here:

this article ISN'T a representation of "buddhist attitudes of justice"....  it's one very specific school's viewpoint.
It doesn't represent Soto Zen as it was taught in my lineage, that of Suzuki Roshi.

           best to you both, Tim

Hi, W,

Welcome to the board.
However, this really should have been posted in the "Visitor`s Links Forum" which is set up for this very purpose.

roger :)

Thanks Tim, I will have to look further.

wrote on Nov 17^th, 2005 at 10:04pm:

Thanks, white feather, for pointing out this interesting article. I am glad to see this summary of Buddhist attitudes. I have a very different take on this. I think that justice is not included in the design of the universe. Like, the Tsunami at Sri Lanka, the earthquake at Bam Ira, and in Pakistan, and hurricane Katrina, are nothing to do with justice or morality. They are properties of the physical universe, which has no morality. Therefore it is futile to look for justice there. Trying to find it by some kind of mental manipulation is just a silly exercise. Justice is mainly a human invention. In psychology 101 I learned about the mental mechanism of projection, which is the projection of thoughts we have, onto others, that assumes that others also have these thoughts. Humans think in terms of justice, and project their ideas of justice onto the universe, but it does not fit. In my objective view, the random activities of nature are not to be treated as justice or injustice. They are just hazards that exist, that we must accept if we are to incarnate on Earth. There is no need to put meaning in these things that is not there, or infer intentions on the part of some entity, when no intention is involved. The activities of nature will merely have good and bad results in some proportion. There are a few times when an intelligent entity will insert some intention to alter the expectable course of events. But that is a special case, not the typical course of events.

 I didn't read W's link, but had some thoughts on justice.  Maybe justice is just balance, and i've had a feeling for a long time that perhaps what we call God/the Creator--the totality of all energy, has an innate desire for balance of its energy...

Now bringing that down to the Earth level, then nature, like God is always seeking balance, and maybe some of these natural distasters aren't so accidental but perhaps even sometimes related to how humans imbalance the energy systems on many levels.  

  If Atlantis, and Lemuria did exist, like E.C. and others said they did, then perhaps the main reason those lands and civilizations were destroyed was because they were so unbalanced and unbalancing the forces of energy around them?

 Rosilands' guides talk about a very similar thing in her book Cosmic Journeys; how that the Earth has energy releases in the forms of what seems to be "destruction" to us, but what really are just energy adjustments...  Kind of analogous to a Chiropractor pushing in spinal vertebrae to help the body balance itself.

I remember that in "Far Journeys", Robert Monroe said that one activity of the angels was making adjustments in Earth's energies. I wondered what those adjustments were.

When I make statements like, "the physical universe is not moral"
or "there is no justice in the physical universe", I am not making
great pronouncements from the guru from the planet Vulcan. I am
trying out these statements and putting them in here, to see if I
can or can not make them part of my developing paradigm, which
process is going on concurrently.

There is always a question of what moralities do exist in the
universe and what authorities are behind these. Sometimes we feel
the presence of some sort of authority, in our explorations.
Or sometimes there is no authority, there is permissiveness.