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Title: How to get a guide to talk? Post by blink on Oct 26th, 2005 at 7:45pm
Hi fellow explorers:
Can anyone tell me how you get sound in your experiences in the "astral" or wherever they might be? I seem to have almost purely visual experiences. Why am I not receiving sound or telepathy or Something. Is there something I'm missing here? I have received a word or two here and there, but that has seemed forced. What is the key? I am trying to relax and just go with the imagery so I won't lose focus but it always seems to play like a movie with no sound. Any ideas? love, blink |
Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by Justin2710 on Oct 26th, 2005 at 7:59pm
How to get a Guide to talk.... Well thats the thing, you can't really unless they want to talk. My feeling is that some of the more advanced incarnated people have made prior agreements not to have much overt guidance, and "coddling/attention"...because they want to test themselves, and the more grown up you are, the less advice you need from the "adults" so to speak.
Maybe you are one of these? More practically, sometimes i meditate and think of a blank screen which can have visuals, feelings, words, symbols, etc. on it... I went to the A.R.E headquarters in Virginia Beach a while ago, and they were having a ESP demonstration class. One of the last things we did, was that we had this envelope which had a picture in it, and we tried to "get" what the picture was... I quieted my mind, took some deep breaths, and asked my Guides to help out. I approached it with very little desire to be "accurate", more as a game. Well, i was sitting next to my Twin Soul/Fiance and at first i get getting this impression of a round ovalish symbol, and i got "Blue!" really strongly...but i kept shaking my head, and knew that wasn't it.. So i repeated the process and pictured the blank screen like i told you about, then i got what looked like waving wheat, and i got the impression of speed so i wrote "cars". When Becky and I opened up our pictures, i was kind of surprised as what i got was actually a blend of the two! Her pic was of a single blue eye, all surrounded in blue, and my pic was of a closeup of horses tightly packed together, with the necks and manes most noticable, and they were all galloping... I was like Score! Cause i never had really seriously tried anything like this, except through doing astrology charts--but that is more an instant knowingness from connection to Total Self... and i think the important part was my detachment and fun attitude about the whole thing. Hope this helps |
Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by Justin2710 on Oct 26th, 2005 at 8:18pm
Also, i don't think i can take all the credit as i think the energy of the place somewhat facilitated the process...
But if i practised this stuff in the same manner, i would get pretty good at it eventually... But thats the thing, i don't think it is that important;) I think just being loving to everyone, and especially the ones that give you a "hard time", is much, much more important... This and meditation will automatically open me up, and i'm not concerned about this aspect of life. This is partly karmic, as i believe a "past life" of mine was completely focused on using psychic gifts, and didn't really want them because of the constant pain and fear of being "different" and not fitting in. I've always kind of had the "been there, done that" attitude towards this, though always being interested in psychic and spiritual things in a theoretical way... Its amazing how much our other lives "spill over" into our present, and all the karmic patterns and circumstances... A recent event really reminded me of when i was in Egypt and trying to help others in an impersonal, loving, yet firm way. This personality had power and influence, and being a High Priest with authority, he set up state rules because the society at the time was really hedonistic, selfish, self righteously pious, and materialistic--particularly some of those in the leadership positions. Some had a personal problem with my DisK member, and they plotted to set up a situation in which they could get him banished... Well, it worked cause he was naive and trusting. I'm sure some of the plotters thought they were in the right though. I think some of these people have played a very similar role recently, and boy our Disks must be laughing their arses off at our antics ;) ;D Yet, this person gave so much to everyone of his time, energy and love. He had pulled a decaying society up by its boot straps, and was kind to everyone though not necessarily always permissive. He truly served the people selflessly. This group karma thing, has been played out now majorily 3 times in my life, and with many other karmic patterns i've become aware of... Its quite interesting in a mental way. I keep wondering, "have i learned yet?" Did i deal with it rightly this time around? I guess the very fact that i'm talking about it shows that i am not and haven't!!! ::) ;) Arrrg self honesty blows :o |
Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by Richard on Oct 26th, 2005 at 8:39pm
1) Try Robert Bruce's NEW enegy system to boost your connection energy level
2) Check for a local Psychic Healer who can clear your energy pathways and improve your connection; worked for me Sound or clairaudience (sp?) isn't all it is cracked up to be. It sufferes from the same symbol translation that the images do. So what you "hear" is not necessarily what was said. "X is dead" may actually mean "The person Y who reminds you of X no longer wants to talk with you". I hear vast amounts of stuff and it is FAR harder to bring back to physical memory than visual imagery. Just as hard as printed text after trying to read it on the other side. And don't even ask about cursive writing. The other issue, of course, is that it opens you to M-band noise and passing F23 spirits. While trying to concentrate on a difficult problem at work, there is nothing like hearing "It will never work". Or becoming aware that a person with a Scots accent is haranging you. There is no way to even know if your guides will use "speach" or sound. And it takes awhile to get used to hearing a sound like a 2x4 being swung as hard as possible against a wood floor in the middle of the night. Of course having them touch the hairs on your arm will bring you bolt upright out of a sound sleep as well. If your guides want you to know something, they will get it across to you somehow. If they don't want you to know, they won't tell you however much you ask. My guides never speak to me as such. They always use visual imagery. Considering that all you will use on the other side will be NVC anyway sound might as well get as much practice as possible. |
Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by Vicky on Oct 26th, 2005 at 10:14pm
I don't know how to "get" anything. I just take what I'm given. Sometimes I have strong visual, sometimes it is actual hearing, and sometimes it is a strong knowing sense. Sometimes maybe a combination. I haven't figured out how and why it works yet.
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Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by blink on Oct 27th, 2005 at 6:13am
Richard, thanks so much for your input here. I have to imagine that you are right about the accuracy of auditory information. I know that in dreams I receive all kinds of interesting auditory info, including written word documents, and I simply can't bring them back into awareness. During the dream I might be fascinated but it slips away so easily.
I agree that I must trust in the process in order to explore and learn, but in Bruce's books and cds there is evidence for and encouragement for auditory input. I was just wondering why this part of the process seemed so much more difficult to me. The cds encourage gathering of information from the retrievee, and I just get very little from that, at least so far. Maybe it's just practice and I'm impatient. I consider myself both a visual and auditory person, meaning that both are equally stimulating to me. Well, onward thru the fog....and thanks all. love, blink |
Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by blink on Oct 27th, 2005 at 6:38am
And I will check into those resources you mentioned, Richard, just to see. I did a form of automatic writing in my teens...I just started doing it spontaneously. Of course what came out was teenage angst in poetic form but also some other interesting things. I'm sure I can do this, just not sure how.
love, blink |
Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by recoverer on Oct 27th, 2005 at 9:27am
Last night while meditating, I suddenly saw a clear image of a women smiling at me. Her face had a really nice vibe to it, and I could feel good vibes. She also looked really familiar.
Later on, while watching TV, I wondered if she looked familiar because I knew her before I was born. During my second nightly meditation, I was kinda of hoping to see her again and start up a conversation, but it didn't work out that way. After going to bed, I thought about it a bit before I fell asleep. The guidance I've been receiving hasn't come in the form of extended conversations with a spirit I see. It's come in dreams, images during meditation, intuitions, an occasional voice I'll hear, or occasional phrase or word that will come into my mind, that clearly comes from a place other than my ego mind. It seems that it's better that I've received guidance in this way, because I've learned more this way than I would have learned if I received information in the form of an extended lecture. I agree with comments about hearing voices. After a phrase or two things start to get muddled. Also, sometimes I'll see and hear people talking while I'm meditating, but it's hard to figure out what they're saying. One time I was sent a phrase which told me that I'm being communicated to with "elegant allegories." The images I see, the dreams I have. They do say a lot, even if it takes some effort at times to figure out their meaning. They definitely seem to say more, than words alone. |
Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by recoverer on Oct 27th, 2005 at 9:28am
I also agree with Richard's comment that it's harder to remember auditory messages than visual messages.
Plus, in the astral, I think things are communicated with thoughts, more than words. |
Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by blink on Oct 27th, 2005 at 11:49am
I totally agree that it is good to be open to guidance in whatever form it appears, Recoverer. It really is all around us, and I appreciate your frequent reminders to everyone to be open to this, as you are...
love, blink |
Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by laffingrain on Oct 27th, 2005 at 3:45pm
Hi Blink, I think u started this topic? just sharing that everyone's different. I like the point where I'm just waking from sleep and some words in my head. just short messages as cannot retain rotes too well yet.
this morn I got only one word..Maltese. I think it's a particular eagle? well, I have no idea, if someone else does, would appreciate it. also there was some instruction about group dynamics going on. C1 seems so hard to retain information, so I just work with it. these messages seem like not from a guide separate from me, but rather my own self which is not fully active within C1. lol, I hope this other self is having fun at night! Bruce called me an explorer. I think he was right. love and good tidings to you, alysia |
Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by Vicky on Oct 27th, 2005 at 3:51pm
;D
Hi Alysia. A Maltese is a dog, one of those little things that don't shed and that's why everyone likes them. As far as maltese meaning anything else, I've never heard of it. |
Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by laffingrain on Oct 27th, 2005 at 4:01pm
thanks Vicky, I must have spelling wrong, as was associated with an eagle, so i will go look in the dictionary. but thanks!
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Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by recoverer on Oct 27th, 2005 at 4:12pm
How about the country Malta. The people from there are Maltese?
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Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by laffingrain on Oct 27th, 2005 at 4:41pm
thanks Albert. I think I'm gonna have to back to sleep for this one....focus in as it were..I'm not good at spelling when I'm out there..once retrieved a little girl and had to ask her to spell her name three times... ???
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Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by recoverer on Oct 27th, 2005 at 4:44pm
Or how about the Humphrey Bogart movie, "The Maltese Falcon."
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Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by blink on Oct 27th, 2005 at 7:01pm
My gut feeling is that is IT Albert!
Eureka! Ok, so what is the great meaning behind the Maltese Falcon....what is that movie about anyway? love, blink |
Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by laffingrain on Oct 27th, 2005 at 9:18pm
yes, precisely my feeling that is it. a Falcon and an eagle are very similar. that is it! ;D tune in for the rest of the story some other time...to be continued. lol. wheres my guides?
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Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by Marilyn Maitreya on Oct 27th, 2005 at 9:23pm |
Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by spooky2 on Oct 28th, 2005 at 5:57pm
Hi Blink,
can only tell how it works for me. I am "thinking" with guides. They sound not like physical, it's more I am interpreting thought messages from them. One other thing, when I imagine myself into a beautiful place, and like to have some birds singing, I can "hear" them, but I must concentrate hard. Can you well imagine sounds? If you can't, maybe it's harder for you to hear "there" because of this? Bye, Spooky |
Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by Vicky on Oct 28th, 2005 at 7:44pm
Yes, I forgot about the movie Maltese Falcon. Wow, usually I'm a great detective but this time I sucked.
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Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by Rob_Roy on Oct 29th, 2005 at 11:13am
My guides have a hard time with me. One person who doesn't, though is someone who has made it clear that she is staying with me, that she 'likes my energy' which was what I was told at first. Come to find out she's part of my I/There.
Although it's instantaneous, she actually doesn't use words pre se but what Spooky calls thought messages. There is, though, total and complete understanding. And I can talk with her and type fast at the same time. She just jumps in whenever she wants too. My guides usually don't want to talk. They seem to prefer to stay back unless there is a specific reason to do otherwise or I call on them, then they may or may not. With others I have found that if they are strong they can communicate and make themselves seen. Others can't or don't. I still don't understand all of this yet. Bob |
Title: Re: How to get a guide to talk? Post by laffingrain on Oct 29th, 2005 at 12:16pm
I always thought of my guide as my past life energy-personality, who still has his own life and is still in that time frame which is as real as 2005 is to me. I believe, but do not have certainty DP lived around 1910 or is still in that dimension and connects with me as his future self. all this is like imagination in many ways, but I've learned theres more to imagination than we think.
but aside from that my energy is different than DP's. I am soft, passive, emotional, rebellious about his religious constructs. his energy as guide, is like ageless wisdom,an active principle to complement my passiveness, full of disapline, not rebellious, but loving and allows my rebellion because he knows I am a new ego and he knows I get the last word on every thing! ;D these days, I don't call him higher self, as the merge seems complete so that there does not seem to be two here, but one, but for communication purposes we may make divisions like this, because merging is a process that may take an entire lifetime. seems we have more than one higher self which would include all disc members which can be seen as other lives but at same time real people still alive on another level. the ego in C1 appears to be just a part of something bigger which is having itself an individual experience to add to the whole. as such, not much can be said for the individual ego passing through here except in its relationship to the bigger picture. all the answers are accessible within. love, alysia |
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