Just a thought i've been thinking about lately.

One of my favorite things in this life of mine is music. Especially when it's pure and emotional, not the edited, mass produced crap that is the 'big business' of the music industry. But thats a whole other topic within itself, don't get me started. :p


Anyway, Musicial notes are simply vibrations, alot of people say that our souls are on a diffrent vibrational level than our physical (higher). Do you think music could be, in a sense, a possible way to communicate, so to speak, with things of higher vibrations?

I often become emursed(sp?) into the music i am listening to ( or sometimes playing), and at times can be quite overwhelming and powerful if it resonates just right within me. Kind of like a nirvana type experience. This could explian maybe why some people are drawn to certain types of music, and others are not. Perhaps a 'matching' of vibrations? Alot of people will say music can be very spiritual in nature, i tend to agree. Although some of these people may like drugs a bit to much. :p

I was just pondering about this idea, i didn't know if anyone else here would like to comment or expand on anything?

I've always found it interesting that vibrations are the roots of 'hearing' and 'seeing'. (light and sound vibrations). I figure why would the spiritual be any diffrent? without vibrations life would suck.

 I agree, music is very affecting and when it harmonizes with our energy field, since everything we percieve is vibration of energy, then when it harmonizes or strengthens our energy it often gives us a "boost"

 I've always intensely loved music, and i love to sing...  My Dad and bro are musicians, and maybe one day i'll pick up the guitar.

You're right, what we call the spiritual is simply frequency differences..

 I've heard the only difference betweem physical vibration and what we call spiritual forces, is both the rate of vibration and the polarity or charge of energy...

Material/physicality is made up of very condensed, and slowly vibrating energy which contains positive and negative forces.

  Spiritual energies, like Love and the "higher" planes nearing Source are very fast in vibration, and purely postively charged...

 Positive=active/ever expanding energy, negative=passive/contracting/which attracts positive force...

 Negative is only really a balance.

Peace

i'm very interested in this! i too am musical, and its the energy in music that excites me. i'm sure we've all had those situations where we've been listening to the radio, and then that one song has come on, and you've stopped in your tracks. you don't know why you like the song but its communicating to you in other ways.

there are also theories out there (i wish i was better at google!) which claim that music is given to us by spirits to a certain extent.

and Black_Napkins, i too am annoyed which the state of mainstream music today. it's very tricky though. i know that it's all down to what you know, and that for people that have been brought up completely on chart music, they must think it's good because they haven't experienced anything else. but perhaps that area of life experience just isnt what they're here for this time.

perhaps when i've made some semi-good material i will share it with you folks

:)

Yeah, haha i'm just now starting to really get into learning alot of thoery, i like it alot.

Mainstream music is a sick puppy, the music isn't that terrible....music is just music. It's the way it's marketed and dumbed down for the general public that i really hate.(I guess you could say that for just about everything else in this country too though..sadly.)

It's just a big money making machine, it's not pure like music should be. It's tainted by big record companies pushing all the buttons, getting 'look' that will sell to the general public.

I'm under the impression that if you have the right look, and the right sound for the right time, you can make alot of money, despite your level of talent. Hell, i know a few guitar players who are 10x better than anyone you will hear on your local radio station, but they aren't the most attractive people, and they aren't willing to conform to the 'popular sound' of the time.(whatever it may be)


Ugh, sorry that has nothing to do with the afterlife, but i hate to see good talent go un-noticed.

Hey,

I also love music so had too comment! Music is a great communicator and a great expressor, we can reach out to people it and join people together, but its so much more than that...so much more words cannot explain but I'm sure were all on the same track in this thread so I don't need to.

I agree with musc today in it is more looks over talent and I do prefer bands who write their own stuff as well lol as its from their soul and what their about which is the way it should be. But it isn't all bad, music is music and if it touches someone it has done its job, and plus some of this music I do love haha (mainstream), some of the songs really do give me a boost, or make me think and the lyrics can be good as well....shame the person isn't doing it for the love of music though....well some i don't want to generalise as its wrong and is specially in this case!

I must leave by telling you about a band i love (sorry Justin yourve heard so much lol), the Red Hot Chili Peppers who are mainstream now in a sense, but they write their own music and it is from the soul and deeper, theirs levels of understanding in there music, many levels, and so much energy booming out for everyone who listens (and actually likes) to take a bit off and boost them up, and to all them obsessed fans (why are you looking at me like that!? :)) then we just touch the clouds when we listen and when I'm feeling down or just want to rock out with stlye which is not style in conventional terms, i turn it up loud and can't stop smiling...and signing....badly haha lol. Plus through my little compared to others but long to me years of following Ive come to know and love them guys, they are wacky and crazy mofos! And also they didn't care about looks or how they acted they were just crazy look at some pictures on a search for red hot chili peppers on google or something lol!

Thanx for listening and letting me bore you to death again!

Ryan

Perhaps music is here for our inspiration, for our motivation.  I know that I probably wouldn't be here if I didn't have music to listen to... it's strange to say such a thing, but it really is that important for me in day to day life.  I'm sure plenty of people can say the same thing.

Strange thing... I found out a few months ago that my 2nd cousin Carlos (an unbelievable guitarist) died from a heart attack back in 2003.  I was shocked at this news, and some part of me wondered if his death had anything to do with my sudden, random urge to take music theory and later get vocal lessons.  I had never before had any interest in learning music but around the time of his death something made me feel like I just *had* to... really odd when I think about it.  

One of my favorite musicians, Nina Hagen (think Maria Callas meets Godzilla meets Betty Boop) has very distinct daemon that seems to transform her into an entirely different persona when she's performing - I would kill to see one of her shows (figuratively, of course!).  Some say this daemon is found in all kinds of creative work.  She's been pretty spiritual since the early 80s, I believe, and recently did an album of Indian spiritual music.

Words in music have always been secondary to me, as well.  I've always been more interested in the arrangements and emotion that I can find in a piece/song.  One of my favorite bands, Cocteau Twins, rarely ever used real lyrics in their music.  They managed to pull it off and gain a large cult fanbase because of the singer's confident, angelic emoting - which contrasts with her other persona, the one with a heap of unfortunate human self-image issues.

  I have discovered something wonderful about music. It can actually be used to improve your health; mentally, physically, and spiritually.
  I have been using the Orion electronic brainwave synchronizer now for a year with audiostrobe. There are many great compositions out that marry sound with pulsating lights for mental alterations. My favorite by far is called "Spirit Of The Air" by Dr. Jeffrey Tompson. I feel that it not only is an enjoyable experience, but that it also improves my mental capacity.

Sincerely,
Ralph

I think maybe some would say that w/o vibrations, there actually would be no life, space or time, since everything vibrates and has a frequency...  Read some stuff about Nicola Tesla, very interesting material from a hundred years ago about resonance, harmonics, etc.  This reminded me of this Hemi-sync invention I've been reading about on this site and Monroe's site.  Anyone who plays electric guitar knows how to make that particular phenomenon happen, to bend two strings and create an off key summation of them as a 3rd note that can be tuned by moving either or both of the bent strings.  It's not good for much other than a transition, but it's a cool effect to play with, and definitely focuses the brain to separate things out and pick the 3rd note.

I've often wondered what evolutionary purpose music has.  It's a purely human thing, but seems to have no great purpose other than our enjoyment and enrichment, just like all art.  Music to the human brain has provable and unmistakable effect, good and bad, depending on all these different factors.  I suppose we could have evolved to enjoy music as a primal bonding thing or trance inducing ritual thing, but cultures have such different ideas of what makes music!  And there doesn't seem to be any reason to have it for our survival.  I've gone for months without hearing any music (boot camp) and it didn't hurt me a bit - although I certainly made up for it afterwards... I learned to play guitar!  Weird.  All music seems to share variations in vibration though, and infinitely different arrangements of the variations.  Really interesting topic and one of the great mysteries in my opinion.  

It's cool that when we all think music can finally progress no further and is perhaps total crap (like now), a new revolution comes along and some really amazing, timeless material comes out.  Perhaps it mimics our consciousness evolution, sort of happens in fits and starts!  Anyway, great topic.

Hey,

I dont think i could ever go without music. Music is everything, i agree it is bonding, it is having a good time and enjoying yourself, it is also touching but sometimes so touching it opens you up to new sides, e.g:a spiritual side, a higher energy, a plane of higher energy where this energy comes from and enables theses songs to touch so many.

Once again all I can say is for me four words, Red Hot Chili Peppers, they touch and open my heart so much and i enjoy and love them so much, they for me are the best band in the universe!

Ryan

Love this thread! And thanks for the suggestions.

 Well lol Ryan, you know i love the Chilli Peppers too, such a kool and positive band ;) with awesome, deep, fun, harmonious, and touching music.

Ok,

So I'm driving home, and the B52s come on.  For those of you who don't know them, they are/were a funky retro band, rock, with some campy humor and not great singers at first, but they came out with better music and learned to sing (the women).

They were singing with so much passion the song "Roam"

Roam if you want to
Roam around the world
Roam if you want to.  Without Wings, Without
Wheels!
Roam if you want to!
Roam around the world
Roam if you want to
Without anything but the love we feel!

Kind of corny, but I was singing, tapping along, and thinking of us on this website!

Matthew

 Bud S wrote,
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Perhaps it mimics our consciousness evolution, sort of happens in fits and starts!  Anyway, great topic

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 Well you lost me a bit with all that 3rd note summnation thing, but it sounded pretty kool.

 Totally agree with the quote above, music is a great barometer but like Ryan (or someone else) brought up before, unfortunately there is a lot of corporate control involved...

 But the times they are a changing!

Quote:

Kind of corny, but I was singing, tapping along, and thinking of us on this website!

 Love this image Doc, tis a pretty high energy song...

Hey guys!

I do love that this thread has been brought back up, i do love this one so much because of what its all about and believe its something we can truly get to grips with and love and understand in this lifetime and its full of expression of us and the universe.

And i gotta say Justin!!! Thanks so much to Irene, I am so grateful and truly appreciate what she did for me, I now have 2 CD's of Pearl Jam, 'Rearview Mirror: The Best Of'. Ive got it all now and must admit I am impressed, i like this! Gotta listen to more though, I have a feel for it but need to get the whole view :). Irene also sent me a band called PowderFinger, and i love these so much already, specially track one! It is such a good song and i relate it to me and New Zealand and really feel it.

Just wondering does anyone play instruments here and hows it going? I play bass and trying to get alot better especially recently, i learnt all around the world yesterday, wlel have for a while, just the intro i'm a little dodgy on lol, i can do the speed and the beginning bit its just where it goes down. Anyway love to hear of you all!

Ryan

Actually I'm really loving Pearl Jam  ;D

Ryan

Just wondering does anyone play instruments here and hows it going? I play bass and trying to get alot better especially recently, i learnt all around the world yesterday, wlel have for a while, just the intro i'm a little dodgy on lol, i can do the speed and the beginning bit its just where it goes down. Anyway love to hear of you all!

Ryan[/quote]




    Hey Ryan,

               I play guitar and lap steel. I've played slide guitar in rock bands and played in country bands. I don't do that anymore though. Never got past playing in bars and little clubs. The money was short and the late nights while holding a day-job made it less fun as time went on.

              The stuff I play for fun is old blues, gospel, old-timey, jazz, irish, and singer-songwriter stuff.

               Keep playing!  Music is one of the greatest things in my life, the gift that keeps giving & giving.

                        Tim

 Ryan wrote,
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"And i gotta say Justin!!! Thanks so much to Irene, I am so grateful and truly appreciate what she did for me, I now have 2 CD's of Pearl Jam, 'Rearview Mirror: The Best Of'. Ive got it all now and must admit I am impressed, i like this! Gotta listen to more though, I have a feel for it but need to get the whole view . Irene also sent me a band called PowderFinger, and i love these so much already, specially track one! It is such a good song and i relate it to me and New Zealand and really feel it.

 Awesome!  That was really nice of Irene ;).  Thats a pretty good CD, but if you have the time and can download songs, check out those ones that Ricardo and i mentioned, especially "Brother" its a really good instruemental and have a feeling you may really like it.

 Some of their stuff is a little heavy and/or melancholy, and lately i don't tend to be as attracted to their music which is like that...lol but then again i was born under the bad sign, Capricorn, so melancholy is something i've jived with a lot in my life, especially in the past.

 I'm gonna do some research into the band you mentioned above too.  Never been to New Zealand, but feel in love with it after "Lord of the Rings" came out.  Such beautiful scenery...

Hey, does "voice" count as an instruement?  Oh well us vocalists usually get enough attention as it is anyways ;D

Much Joy to you all

I like psychedelic music.  Examples: beatles across the universe (the psychedelic version), led zep ramble on, battle of evermore, u2 lemon, crosby still nash young carry on.  It is those psychedelic vibrations that really do it for me.

MS

i play the guitar, and music is my life, it's hard to describe the effect it's always had on me.

i'm trying to get my stuff heard, but it's hard when you're 20, with very little funds and amateur recordings. so i try to show the potential i would have with the right production.

if you're interested, you can hear a couple of songs here http://www.purevolume.com/sandinyoureyes  :)

There is a song by Yes that has lyrics along these lines. These are the lyrics:

To Be Alive (hep Yadda)
           Lyrics and Music by Jon Anderson, Steve Howe, Billy Sherwood, Chris Squire, Alan White, & Igor Khoroshev

           Not a lot is missing
           Every ounce of treasure found
           And I believe that everyone should get that
           They're allowed
           Suspected of belief that comes suspended
           In a sound
           And everybody wants some

           It's the sound they make in heaven
           It's a sound for here on earth
           I've heard it in the whispering
           Of the wonders that we search
           We've waited far too long
           To hear the healing of the stars
           'N' everybody wants some

           Everybody wants some
           Everybody wants some
           Everybody wants some
           Everybody wants some
           To feel alive

           Oh, does it get much better than this
           Oh, does it get much better, much better
           Oh, does it get much better than this, than  
this

           There's the sound that keeps you trying
           There's the sound that makes you smile
           There's a sound in every corner
           Of the world that we survive

           Your temple is the harmony
           You feel the sacred ground
           Just wishing for the secret
           To appear within the sound
           Watching for the morning star
           The rhythm of the sun
           I hear it in my waking dreams
           The singing has begun

           The passion that we walk upon
           The passion that we bring
           Is written for the mountains
           They love to hear us sing

           Everybody wants some
           Everybody wants some
           Everybody wants some
           Everybody wants some
           To feel alive

           Oh, doesn't get much better than this
           Oh, doesn't get much better than this, than this

           Who made me make believe
           I'm alive I'm living
           Never underestimate
           The signals coming to you
           Oh
           The sounding of the earth
           It shakes you, yes it shakes you
           Oh
           The sounding of the earth
           It shakes you, let it shake you

Has anyone had that etheral floating feeling while playing?

Ryan

Hi Ryan,

           Playing & singing really gets juices flowing for me. It doesn't happen every time, but often after a little while of playing & singing I'll enter into this expanded state that is also deeply grounded. Everything becomes vibration and at the same time I am occupying my physical form fully. All thought stops, there is a wonderful silence there, I listen to the music that's flowing through me as-if someone else was playing it, i mean I'm enjoying listening to it as it happens and am surprised at the life within it. Moments of discovery can happen; a song I've played a zillion times will start having new improvisations going on with it that surprise and delight me. I often sense non-physical beings around when I crack thru to that expanded place while in the creative flow... Man, playing gets a lot of energy moving, I am always surprised, everything is alive in that expanded/grounded place....    These words just poured out right now, hope something translates from them, maybe even make some sense.... I tell you brother, music is one powerful thing; when learning, it helps to have the goal in mind (that you wish to be a player) That way you might be a little more patient with yourself as you work on it, it takes time, you will jump levels in your learning, all of a sudden you'll be in a totally different place with it, being patient and consistent in your practice is key, not to expect immediate results, but just hang in there, do some practice every day, and be gentle with yourself. The rewards are infinite...

               Love, Tim

Hi,
I even experienced practising to play an instrument is improving your abilities in reaching different consciousness states in meditation. You know, you play and play and think I will never learn that trick- but suddenly you can do it, not with force, easily! And in my case this experiences are useful for learning to alter consciousness states at will. And it was the same when I learnt inline-skating. It's so cool when you notice "Hey! I can do it!"
Bye, Spooky

 Hey Chris, thanks for giving a sample of your music.  :) I haven't checked it out yet, but i will soonish.


wrote on Nov 15^th, 2005 at 7:11pm:

Hi Ryan,            Playing & singing really gets juices flowing for me. It doesn't happen every time, but often after a little while of playing & singing I'll enter into this expanded state that is also deeply grounded. Everything becomes vibration and at the same time I am occupying my physical form fully. All thought stops, there is a wonderful silence there, I listen to the music that's flowing through me as-if someone else was playing it, i mean I'm enjoying listening to it as it happens and am surprised at the life within it. Moments of discovery can happen; a song I've played a zillion times will start having new improvisations going on with it that surprise and delight me. I often sense non-physical beings around when I crack thru to that expanded place while in the creative flow... Man, playing gets a lot of energy moving, I am always surprised, everything is alive in that expanded/grounded place....    These words just poured out right now, hope something translates from them, maybe even make some sense.... I tell you brother, music is one powerful thing; when learning, it helps to have the goal in mind (that you wish to be a player) That way you might be a little more patient with yourself as you work on it, it takes time, you will jump levels in your learning, all of a sudden you'll be in a totally different place with it, being patient and consistent in your practice is key, not to expect immediate results, but just hang in there, do some practice every day, and be gentle with yourself. The rewards are infinite...                Love, Tim

 Thats some pretty intense stuff there Tim  :o  You guys really make me want to pick up the guitar.   I've kind of experienced this with singing, sometimes its like you merge with the other vocalist, and the music, and you just BE, and its transcendant...  Other times, i will just start singing out of nowhere, and i come up with whole song lyrics and its a similar feeling, kind of losing yourself a bit, but with a heightened awareness and expansiveness too.

 Thanks for sharing, and i think you explained it as well as somone can with using word symbols....

Peace

Heya everyone, just another music experience I have which I didn't think to mention as I have it so much it feels normal lol,  but anyway...

You know when you think of a song, well you sing the song and you sing it in your head and you imagine it. This is what we normally do to imagine a song right?? We can remember the tune but don't really hear it like in our ears....

Well now what If when you went to imagine the song and started to hear it yourself, as like listen out for it and then suddenly it plays! Yes it plays just like someone beside you has turned on a CD. Well I seem to have this abilty....

...Today at work, bit on constant background noise but I have done this when there is no noise as well, there can be no sound distractions or visual even (as in ones directly at you). I was getting on with my job and singing a little (lol helps the day go faster!) and I remember Guns and Roses - Sweet Child Of Mine. So i started imagining then guitar intro bit then suddenly it was like i could hear it, someone switched on a CD of it! Which of course they hadn't but if felt like it. Then the 2nd guitar came in and then the drums and then the vocals.

Now this is really hard to explain, its like I can play all 4 of these instruments (Inc Vocals) at once at ease, so I'm not concentrating I just hear them all play together because I am doing it myself (I dont just say i want to listen to this and hear it...that would be cool, i have to imagine it but its like im not even trying to, in effect I am just listening) and I can hear the music perfectly like we do here in my ears and head. I can even hear all the words perfectly and even when i stop singing it takes over and does all the bits i might not remeber about the song! Well conciously remember.

I do believe you have to have heard the song a few times since I think I am just re-experiencing the sound stored somewhere in my brain? But re-experiencing it like i did the first time I hear it in physical, exactly the same. Also i noticed after I have done one song it takes a couple of minutes before i can hear another song clearly, although i can keep repeating the same song for a while ok.

Also when someone else (for me who im working view) came back to the area and we were cleaning the machine and taken the bits apart well it seemed to only have half as good quality as I had a distraction which wasn't of my own cause. What I mean is i could be cleaning this machine on my own and still hear well, its just another presence seems to affect.

Well really just wondered if I'm not lonely in this ability?? lol and also interested as to hear where you think this sound comes from so perfectly at so easily?

Cheers!

Ryan

wrote on Nov 21^st, 2005 at 9:27am:

Heya everyone, just another music experience I have which I didn't think to mention as I have it so much it feels normal lol,  but anyway... You know when you think of a song, well you sing the song and you sing it in your head and you imagine it. This is what we normally do to imagine a song right?? We can remember the tune but don't really hear it like in our ears.... Well now what If when you went to imagine the song and started to hear it yourself, as like listen out for it and then suddenly it plays! Yes it plays just like someone beside you has turned on a CD. Well I seem to have this abilty.... ...Today at work, bit on constant background noise but I have done this when there is no noise as well, there can be no sound distractions or visual even (as in ones directly at you). I was getting on with my job and singing a little (lol helps the day go faster!) and I remember Guns and Roses - Sweet Child Of Mine. So i started imagining then guitar intro bit then suddenly it was like i could hear it, someone switched on a CD of it! Which of course they hadn't but if felt like it. Then the 2nd guitar came in and then the drums and then the vocals. Now this is really hard to explain, its like I can play all 4 of these instruments (Inc Vocals) at once at ease, so I'm not concentrating I just hear them all play together because I am doing it myself (I dont just say i want to listen to this and hear it...that would be cool, i have to imagine it but its like im not even trying to, in effect I am just listening) and I can hear the music perfectly like we do here in my ears and head. I can even hear all the words perfectly and even when i stop singing it takes over and does all the bits i might not remeber about the song! Well conciously remember. I do believe you have to have heard the song a few times since I think I am just re-experiencing the sound stored somewhere in my brain? But re-experiencing it like i did the first time I hear it in physical, exactly the same. Also i noticed after I have done one song it takes a couple of minutes before i can hear another song clearly, although i can keep repeating the same song for a while ok. Also when someone else (for me who im working view) came back to the area and we were cleaning the machine and taken the bits apart well it seemed to only have half as good quality as I had a distraction which wasn't of my own cause. What I mean is i could be cleaning this machine on my own and still hear well, its just another presence seems to affect. Well really just wondered if I'm not lonely in this ability?? lol and also interested as to hear where you think this sound comes from so perfectly at so easily? Cheers! Ryan

 Dunno if its exactly the same as what you're relating, but i've really have heard songs "in my head", which sounded just like the songs in physical...  At first i just try to imagine what it sounds like, and sometimes it takes on a life of its own, and just starts actually playing.  When it happens, its pretty kool.

 Haven't tried this for awhile, and almost sort of forgot about, so thanks for the reminder Ryan.

 Since we both have heard voices, i think perhaps we could fall into the category of "clairaudient"?  Now, you being a musician and all, i think you could really develop your abilities to tap into the higher mental dimensions, where some really, really beautiful music is being thought up/created, and there for the borrowing.

 I think some of the famour composers in history, more so transcribed, and translated music they were already "hearing" than just coming up with in on their own....  People like Bach, Mozart, or Beethoven...

 Pretty kool stuff, and look forward to this happening with you  :).

Peace

Hey Justin,

thanx for replying! yeah if they sound like there from the physical hearing then yeah thats what i get, tried to explain more just in case no one got me! lol but yeah that sounds it exactly. Its kinda cool because i get to listen to music at work, we cant bring anything in because dealing paints and solvents and could make the place go up apprantly!

I would love to hear music from the other side, apprantly its amazing! Maybe i can tap into a higher energy and really devote and let the music come out? I would need to be doing it 110% though, its my life but it isnt as i have a job etc. I feel it would really have to be my life before i can flow with it. Maybe an idea, some inspiration though! Have you heard any music from over there?

Ryan

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Have you heard any music from over there?

Not that i remember consciously.  But i can really imagine how beautiful and harmonious it must be....  but my path isn't the of the musician primarily, so i don't delve into it strongly.

 Good luck on your path,
 Justin

In my mind I met one of my grandpas and he played organ which he did when he was alive. He liked the possibilities of the instruments over there. Also I met a schoolfriend who had passed over long time ago, he was a gifted guitar player and continued to be in his place up there- he has all the time for practising, no limits. In both cases I heard the music, but not as you, Ryan and Justin, but just like remembering "normally" music.
Bye, Spooky

wrote on Nov 21^st, 2005 at 9:27am:

Heya everyone, just another music experience I have which I didn't think to mention as I have it so much it feels normal lol,  but anyway... You know when you think of a song, well you sing the song and you sing it in your head and you imagine it. This is what we normally do to imagine a song right?? We can remember the tune but don't really hear it like in our ears.... Well now what If when you went to imagine the song and started to hear it yourself, as like listen out for it and then suddenly it plays! Yes it plays just like someone beside you has turned on a CD. Well I seem to have this abilty.... ...Today at work, bit on constant background noise but I have done this when there is no noise as well, there can be no sound distractions or visual even (as in ones directly at you). I was getting on with my job and singing a little (lol helps the day go faster!) and I remember Guns and Roses - Sweet Child Of Mine. So i started imagining then guitar intro bit then suddenly it was like i could hear it, someone switched on a CD of it! Which of course they hadn't but if felt like it. Then the 2nd guitar came in and then the drums and then the vocals. Now this is really hard to explain, its like I can play all 4 of these instruments (Inc Vocals) at once at ease, so I'm not concentrating I just hear them all play together because I am doing it myself (I dont just say i want to listen to this and hear it...that would be cool, i have to imagine it but its like im not even trying to, in effect I am just listening) and I can hear the music perfectly like we do here in my ears and head. I can even hear all the words perfectly and even when i stop singing it takes over and does all the bits i might not remeber about the song! Well conciously remember. I do believe you have to have heard the song a few times since I think I am just re-experiencing the sound stored somewhere in my brain? But re-experiencing it like i did the first time I hear it in physical, exactly the same. Also i noticed after I have done one song it takes a couple of minutes before i can hear another song clearly, although i can keep repeating the same song for a while ok. Also when someone else (for me who im working view) came back to the area and we were cleaning the machine and taken the bits apart well it seemed to only have half as good quality as I had a distraction which wasn't of my own cause. What I mean is i could be cleaning this machine on my own and still hear well, its just another presence seems to affect. Well really just wondered if I'm not lonely in this ability?? lol and also interested as to hear where you think this sound comes from so perfectly at so easily? Cheers! Ryan

Hey Ryan,

Yeah i think i know what you mean. I'm kinda the butt of a joke around my friends. They can pick a random Phish CD (i have like 200 shows on CD haha) and play a song off it, and i can identify the show, date, and sometimes venue. I seem to have a good memory when it comes to those things as well.

Sometimes i can even 'recite' entire jams or solos (sometimes 3-5 minutes long) in my mind. Granted not all the time but sometimes. Alot of this has to do with frequency and the intensity i listen to music. But the ultimate goal of any musican is to play what they feel or 'see'/'hear' in their mind...maybe one day i'll get there...but i won't hold my breath haha.

anyway good stuff :thumbs up:

Hell yeah, improvising a solo/intro on the spot, i gotta go back to them, the red hot chili peppers...how they do it is amazing! They kinda just look at each other and play and somehow know what they wanna do and where to go and it sounds soooo good.

I know what you mean as well, i can sing all the solos of all the chili songs....cept of one hot minute album i haven't listened to that much...

Thanx for the replies!

Ryan