What happens when you have fufilled what you came here to do? Do you get taken away or do you stay and live out the rest of your life here even though you have already fufilled this lifetimes purpose?

Ryan

Oh my gosh, Ryan stop reading my mind!   :D

Now you know my secret, why I have several projects going on at the same time, why I read 5 or 6 books at once, why I am writing several books, stories, you name it all at once, and why I never finish any of it...I'm afraid that if I do then ZAP, I'm outta here.  

Seriously though, I do believe that when it is your time to go, then you go.  When you have done everything that you planned to do before coming here, then you will be done.  I don't believe we get "taken" away.  I think even dying is planned before we come in here.    :-*

lol!

Yeah i meant getting taken away dying, like if i fufill my purpose tommorow I will get hit by a car lol!

I think like you said I will always have a book on the go, because then i always have a reason to stay haha lol!

Ryan

 Lol good question... Yep, i think most of us do die...  But i've always wondered, do we have to die?

 What if we are so loving, so helpful to others, so balanced..could we stay in-physical and help for as long as we feel we are needed?

 My percept is that this is very possible and it is supported by many various sources from Bob Monroe, to E.C.'s readings, to many of the older and ancient writings. like certain Yogic branches which talk about the "Rainbow body" etc.

In "Ultimate Journeys" Bob asks his Inspec friend to direct him to the most evolved and mature person living in his space/time..  Inspec said sure, but it may not be what you expect...

 And boy wasn't it at all.  Bob meets a 1800 year old person who hasn't reincarnated since being born some 1800 years ago.

 Cayce said in one reading, "many live who never have died as yet..."  

 I think eventually we will all reach this state of such tapping into the Source, that it automatically keeps the body alive, or perhaps transforms it into a higher energy body which can travel at will through all dimensions.

 Some think this is what Jesus did when he died, he recreated his body, but on a faster vibrational plane where it has no limitations that we have, yet is still of the flesh.

 Interesting stuff...and the first step towards this is being open to the possibility of it.......

Will we know when were dead? Or will someone tell us? Cus I think there are some dead people walking around that don't know there dead.

Holy cheerios! Where did you read that? Where did this person live?


wrote on Oct 18^th, 2005 at 7:46pm:

Bob meets a 1800 year old person who hasn't reincarnated since being born some 1800 years ago.

I know it was definatly from Robert Monroe, i think his third book though, not too sure though. His third book is called Ultimate Journey though.

Ryan

wrote on Oct 18^th, 2005 at 9:06pm:

Holy cheerios! Where did you read that? Where did this person live?

Lol, really like that expression..kinda reminds me of the old Batman.."Holy smokes Batman"

 Yep, it was in Bob's third book Ultimate Journey and Rosiland McKnight's guides talk a bit about this in her 1st book Cosmic Journeys too.  Cayce says that Jesus did this, and others after him.

 Dunno why, but i've felt for a very long time that this was a real possibility, and for awhile was on a path to acheive this...then i realized this was an illusion of mine that was blocking me.  Now i just try to be myself as authentically as possible, and pray/meditate, "Thy Will be done, not mine"...and of course Love, and other factors play a role in this, even diet and body balancing from the physical standpoint.

 Where did he live?  In the book, Bob didn't get a percept of where exactly he lived, but he did realize that he ran into him before, and Bob lived in VA most of his life, i believe...  He just said it was a normal looking room, could be anywhere, with a tall stand of trees you could see from the window, and a sparsely furnished room..  He/She (Bob's label for this person) was simply dressed in a white shirt and black slacks, and they had quite the interesting coversation, then He/She left to go teach at a University (one of many jobs that He/She said it had)..

 LOL and no, He/She wasn't a Transvestite! :o ::) :P ;D

I've read it too and I got lost about the thing so i let it go. i'd love some explanation. (Bob fans please help us)

I remember that one of Rosalind Mcknight's books say something to the effect that physical bodies become old, because of the concepts their owners have. Some advance beings live for quite a while, I guess so they can help out down here. These beings don't tend to be big profile people.

If you believe that physical laws are absolute, this might be hard to see.  But if you view the physical World as a mind created program, why can't the program be altered at times?

wrote on Oct 19^th, 2005 at 7:02am:

I've read it too and I got lost about the thing so i let it go. i'd love some explanation. (Bob fans please help us)

 Hi Kardec,

I suppose you could look at it as aging is just another illusionary human belief system.  Many ancient writings, not just the Bible, talk about people living for much, much longer periods than we do now.

 A couple things are very important to this process; one is believing it is possible, and that you can do it.  Two is being filled with PUL all the time, and after a while your physical body, and every cell becomes or merges with Light vibration...

 This is why some those who have been through the final process are often called "Enlightened" because they quite literally are--they are filled with Light, which is what happens when all the Chakras are in perfect balance and active from Love, and balanced one to the other---they become One Big Chakra in a sense, and the body and energy field (Aura) becomes Pure White Light for awhile.  When they temp. come out (so to speak, they never really leave) of this Oneness pool of Consciousness, their energy shows up more as a Golden White Light.

 In the New Testament, Jesus (i call him Yeshua) was "Transfigured" before some Apostles, even before he died and resurrected his body...

 But those two main things are not the only thing that is important to the process, balancing and strengthening the body through diet, exercise, and moderate living also plays it part.  Of course, regular and deep meditation is key to this whole process and facilitates someone beging centered in that Love energy.

 The important thing is not to seek this, and not having attachment to the process (which i did for awhile), but yet needing to be open to it in both belief and in way of living...

 Physical cleansing:  Edgar Cayce talked a bit about the "lost years" of Jesus, and said that when as a young man traveling through India, Yeshua learned methods for cleansing and strengthening the body and mind---which probably means he learned about certian diets, Yogic activities, fasting, and different forms of meditation.

 He also learned various occult sciences in Persia, like Astrology.

 Btw-- it is my strong feeling that the person Bob talked too, was Yeshua who has said in many times and in many channels that he has never left us, and he will come out when the world is ready for it...  We will go through some intense changes before this--as He/She mentioned to Bob in their conversation.  

wrote on Oct 19^th, 2005 at 9:10am:

it is my strong feeling that the person Bob talked too, was Yeshua who has said in many times and in many channels that he has never left us, and he will come out when the world is ready for it...  We will go through some intense changes before this--as He/She mentioned to Bob in their conversation.

I had this same impression but the problem was the number 1800 years. it shouldn't be 1900 or even 2005? I know it sounds silly but it is maths.

wrote on Oct 19^th, 2005 at 9:25am:

I had this same impression but the problem was the number 1800 years. it shouldn't be 1900 or even 2005? I know it sounds silly but it is maths.

 Yeah, technically it should be higher.  I've wondered about this too, but it makes sense if you understand how Bob seemed to feel about religion.  But when you're talking 2000 year time frames, a couple hundred is not too off.

 I think Bob realized halfway through reading this Beings mind (only parts) who exactly this was, and it surprised him, and he made curios statements like, "I perceive you as occidental (from the west), yet no one on Earth really believes you exist..."

 Sounds like someone Bob thought others would have thought about... Sounds like what someone who thought religion was full of crap would say!  Yeah, nobobdy believes you really exist...actually kind of an arrogant and blanketed statement if you think about it.  Especially since many people who have studied Cayce, very much believe this is the case..  Cayce Source seemed to believe that Yeshua was the fastest vibratory teacher to come to Earth, and this is echoed by Rosie's guides in Cosmic Journeys...  But then you have much of the less reliable channeled info out there which contradicts every thing Cayce or more reliable sources have said...like Jesus didn't die on a cross, Jesus didn't ressurrect his body, Jesus was just pretty psychic,  heck Jesus got someone drugged up to take his place..

 I may sound a little angry and intolerant about this because..frankly I am a bit angry and intolerant about it (well we all have our faults and weaknesses and this is 1 of mine), i think their is way too much channeled fluff out there with no substinance, no verification, or anything, and so many people buy it hook line and sinker...  And whats worse, i get the strong sense that some of it is deliberately misleading and disinfo...whether from this plane, or others... Like that Nancy lady who talked so much about Planet X and so many people just bought into it.

   Maybe "He/She" or Bob realized that it wasn't time to put out that kind of info so he or He/She skewed the time frame a bit to throw people off... or maybe Bob just read He/She slightly wrong since it was all through telepathy.

 I would be interested in Bruce's comments on this, but i don't think he would comment, and if he did he might say its not that important (i'm making fun of myself here)..  Lol, course i don't know what he would say :P

wrote on Oct 19^th, 2005 at 10:12am:

Maybe "He/She" or Bob realized that it wasn't time to put out that kind of info so he or He/She skewed the time frame a bit to throw people off... or maybe Bob just read He/She slightly wrong since it was all through telepathy. ====================================  I would be interested in Bruce's comments on this, but i don't think he would comment, and if he did he might say its not that important (i'm making fun of myself here)..  Lol, course i don't know what he would say :P

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I think you are right but it's a very complex subject.
I'd like to hear bruce too. (unfortunately I think that he would say exactly what you said he would ;D)

wrote on Oct 19^th, 2005 at 10:35am:

==================================== I think you are right but it's a very complex subject. I'd like to hear bruce too. (unfortunately I think that he would say exactly what you said he would ;D)

Lol..who knows eh?

 I want to clarify why it does irk me about the channeled stuff....  Its the same kind of anger that sometimes arises when someone throws garbage out into a beautiful and pristine wooded area, or throws trash into the life giving ocean....

 I really feel that this Soul has helped us continually throughout the many long ages as many lives/personalities, and he wants nothing more for us, then us to be happy and to know where we came from, what we are, and what our potential is...

 And some of us spit on him and have so little respect for this pure Soul who has been Retrieving parts of the Whole in the Earth, since early Atlantis...  He is no different than us, except in how he has consistently kept to the Creator's ways, even being tested in the Earth like us...  Very few if any have had such a pure and beautiful pattern....

 And sometimes i feel like i do when i see someone hack a tree down for no good reason, or dump garbage in a beautiful land....  Usually though, i'm fairly detached about it, and realize that people just don't know any better but being human and not enlightened...well i get  >:( :'( >:( sometimes...

I understand. Yeshua is the Master but when all the human kind recognizes it the work is done. So I think we did not get there yet. But as He said in other words  -  all those things which aren’t true will be swept by time – Then only His words will make real sense. ;)

I agree with the diet part in order to balance out your body. But... aren't we balanced enough just by being alive? Dieting and such might work, and might be a way to fine tune and cleanse our bodies.

Now you've made me want to get those books. I'll have to make a long list of "stuff to get" about this subject... lol... Thanks for your light.

My belief is that if Jesus/Yeshua is among us now, here on this earth and if we ever "consciously" meet him, then we would most probably feel as if we had already met him or ran into him before.

Cheers,
Carlos.


wrote on Oct 18^th, 2005 at 9:23pm:

Yep, it was in Bob's third book Ultimate Journey and Rosiland McKnight's guides talk a bit about this in her 1st book Cosmic Journeys too.  Cayce says that Jesus did this, and others after him.

I feel I've qualified myself to speak a little about religion because of glimpsing some lives of religion, such as being a nun, a missionary, etc. not here to speak on where I've been or done or draw attention to myself.
In this life, only life that matters right now, I read ACIM, channeled by a lady who won't even put her name on the book and she was channelling Jesus.

Lets just say Jesus type energy, as Jesus can be in many different locations, not being limited to time and space or location, nor the body he did use, the form he did use way back in time when he walked among us. I believe Jesus was also the Buddha..he just weighed a bit more that time ;D

I'm trying to stay on track here, to say I too, was defensive of Jesus, like Justin is perturbed to see him misunderstood so. I was this way, and angry even, until I understood what ACIM was saying.
here is a quote from the first few pages, and if you let your mind settle into it's message it will produce a revelation...

Nothing real can be threatened..nothing unreal exists

the rest of ACIM's message is summed up in that single phrase above..if you truly get it, and understand it, u don't need to read the rest of the book. however, I had to read the entire book and wait 20 years myself to understand that nothing real can be threatened.

blessings..we journey all as one..alysia

Let's hear it for Monroe again...! thanks for quoting that...fits me so precisely I'm almost embarrassed...now I know I have to re-read that book..love, alysia