Hey,

well today I had an OBE, but they way i achieved it was different. Previously i had spent many minutes quieting my mind and following vibrations etc to go OBE. This way i did was totally the opposite...

Instead of trying to quiet your mind and breathing etc try to think of a scenario. For example you were playing football. Now imagine kick off and imagine the whole thing, you have to let this match take over you though, think of nothing else, including the desire to have an OBE or use this as a way. You need to have 110% concentration on this match. Imagine the ball, where its going, you kicking it, players reacting, the crowd, let whatever take over, just feel that this match is real life and you arent really lying down imagining it. Soon the details will get clear, like you are day dreaming, soon it will be fully 3D visual,, and it will take over and you are most probly dreaming but haven't relised yet. Then next thing you know you might be OBE and will remember nothing of the imagination/daydream/dream untill you woke up.

Thats what happened to me, i woke up (which i think is the best time as you are rested and relaxed and imagination is better plus your not thinking about your daily stresses so maybe sunday morning when you can lay in is the best time to try this)

Anyway i woke up and went back to sleep then wok up again and layed then imagining a scene. For all of you who don't really know me i Love New Zealand (family from there),I am planning to move next year, visit my cousins who have just been over here for a while. ANyway i imagined flying over and then visiting and surpising my cousins, and then we went out and they were showing me Nelson. because i was rested and relaxed this scene took over and i thought of nothing else, suddenly i was OBE with no recollection of ever thinking about new zealand until i came back out of my OBE (my OBE is posted in another thread i started today called "Another experience..." i think.

When i woke up i relised maybe this is another way, i have not heard of it before but seems good because its hard to close down your mind, this way gives you soemthing to focus on so you don't have too.

Then i relised what the SECRET to having an OBE is apart from being relaxed and comfatable which everyone can do...it was always the next part people found hard including me. i relised to go OBE the principle is not too close your mind but to focus on one thing, channel your energy if you like....

...by doing this, with no distractions you are chanelling, focusing so whether you are visiting your cousins in NZ, playing a football match or thinking of nothing (which is the hardest!) its ok. As long as you are thinking of one thing and channeling everything into this. I use to get the vibrations then get excited and think "I'm doing it, i'm going to OBE!" then because i was THINKING TO MUCH i lost it.

So remember when you laying there trying to quieten you rmind you don't have too! Just concentrate on one thing and go with it! If your new this may not work i don't know, you may have to do this a few times to build up your imagination to thelevel required....also i didn't recieve vibrations..whether you will or won't i couldn't say but if you don't....thats one less distraction...

...and how will you know you have gone OBE...you just willl when it happens :)!

Ryan

Thank you for the tip Ryan, I will try that out myself! I love the feeling just seconds before OBE, you know that any second you are going to slip out of your body,I always seem to slip out sideways,probably because I lie on my side! :)

My last one was less frightening because I was ready to go with the flow and enjoy it,and enjoy it I did!! :)

Hi Ryan

William Buhlman in his book "Adventures beyond the Body" describes this as one of the methods that he uses.  Its a great book which you will probably find very useful.

Way to go!!!

Love - Irene  

Ryan, this is wonderful.  You are really coming a long way here.  And didn't I tell you you would be teaching others one day?  You have already begun.  
:)

This is exactly the idea that Robert Monroe and Bruce Moen teach, well it's the same principal anyway.  The main idea or goal is not to achieve OBE, unless in your case since that is what you are trying to do.  But when it comes to exploration, the main idea is to focus your mind, as you say, and then to play along with it as if it were real, whether you believe it is or not, but the more you start to trust, the more your perception will open up.  Bruce goes on to say that as your perception opens, you will start to get information that can be verified and this will be your proof of your explorations.  

I have been personally working on this topic strongly for a couple weeks now, and you have concretely succeeded in this technique.  I can and have done just as you've described.  Some may read your technique and consider it simply a lucid dreaming technique, but I believe that lucid dreaming really is only becoming aware that you are dreaming--it doesn't necessarily have to mean that your awareness has to stay confined to the dream.  If you can master this line of thinking, then you will realize you are free from the boundaries of the physical as well as from the boundaries of the dream state.  Then, it is only up to your own imagination where you can go from there.  

Whether it results in OBE or not is not necessarily the goal, unless that is what you are aiming for, but in any kind of afterlife i.e. non-physical exploration, the end result is to trust your perception out there, whatever kind of perception that may be.  

Hey!

I never even thought of it like that Vicky, see today my intention was just dreaming about this adventure, then i learned what all these hundreds of methods to go OBE really all boil down too, and how easy it is too just say that. I think if you set the desire to communicate/ask a question/or go out of body and then forget about this intention and then try the method above you will achieve it!

Wow this is so exciting, sorry I'm just seeing something here...its like for me i always have that underlying need to OBE lol, you know me by now! Well this is why i got that result, but if you want to communicate the scene will take over and you will, this isn't just a way to OBE.

;D ;D ;D

And cheers for the book link Irene i will have to check that out, never heard of him or the book but sounds good!

And goldyflocks, i think thats part of the addiction as well as exploring, the feeling just seconds before you OBE, and just as you are, its a weird wonderful feeling :)!

Thankyou for the replys!

Ryan

Ryan,

That sounds incredible I got a rush just reading it. I can't imagine how you felt once you realized that you were actually "outside."  This looks like a very easy technique, worth trying.  You would only need to know or try to feel exactly _when_ you're out, and then try to figure out what to do... that seems like the scariest part to me  :-/

Cheers,
Carlos.

Hey Carlos!

When i first went out i shouted it to the world, to finally do it, it is amazing!

What is the scariest bit for you? Trying to figure out what to do? It good to have a set agenda so you can keep it rolling and also know what you want to do out there, worth some thought! but whatever you want to do you can!!!

Ryan

Hey whats up!

You know what, i've thought about doing a lot already... like for ex. going down the drain, out the ocean, down the deepest reefs and play with the fish... without getting dirty / stinky / wet. Maybe i should imagine that next time i try.

To me, the scariest bit must be the reaction of my body to the feeling of being out. They say it's a spoiler when you get overwhelmed, which is what happens to me in many situations here...

What you're experiencing could be called an "extended daydream," i take? I've been an avid daydreamer since God knows when, even while typing this, i swirled around with the fish a couple of times... so i'm just dying to try this... lol

By the way why do people say "dying" when they want something so bad? As if dying was... well... what most of us here on this boards believe it is, unlinke most others who see dying as something bad... but wait that's a whole other thread... ::)

Hi Ryan and all,
 this method you describe indeed is very good to phase out off the physical world, easier than the "think nothing" method.
 Bruce Moen told about the imagination as "priming the pump" (when it's dry you have to put water in it firstly to get water pumped up), and so do I. The difference to your way seems to be that (if I got you right) after you have set up this imagination you start OoB, find yourself in the back of your house for example and the start-imagination is gone, while in my case usually this start-imagination is step by step developing and there's not that sudden shift.

Btw, your detailed posts are very helpful and inspiring.

Bye, Spooky