Hey everyone,

Well I have just read some mind blowing stuff on the fourth dimension, wow! Is this what we are heading towards when the words "the shift is happening" are being used? If so we are in for one hell of a ride...

I don't know much about this so would love to hear everyones views on this new dimension from the third one we seem to be living in today. Also links to decent sites about this as i can't find any!

Thankyou! Ryan

ACtually if you use modern terminology we live in a 4 dimensional world since time is counted as a dimension.

Also if you know about the M theory in physic (the newest one) we would actually be living in a world with 11 dimensions.

yay !  

;D

I'm very interested in a link or any other source of information about the M theory.

Same here...I haven't a clue what your on about ;D!

Ryan

I've already heard some statement about that subject and it seems to be based on real cientific research. I really have never found much about such subject, so a link would be a good starting point.

Some have said that it could be the cientific prove about a "Spiritual Word". Of course we belief there is such place but it would be "funny" having a cientifical proof. ;D

ACtually if you use modern terminology we live in a 4 dimensional world since time is counted as a dimension.
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so if time is counted as a singular dimension, is space counted as another dimension? seems to me that time and space need to be counted as one dimension....

Kardec, I just received a newsletter and it's also here:

http://www.spiritlite.com/newsletter.htm

This explains a lot of what is going on and it's the 5th dimension we're going to. There are many websites devoted to our Ascension. Just do a search on google.com.

Love, Mairlyn ;-)

chafing at the bit here :D

it would be "funny" having a cientifical proof.
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but what about what they discovered...they took this quark or particle thingy and split it to observe how the division effected each side..turned out (wow!) one thingy would move in relationship to how the other thingy moved, like as if they were one, a mirror reflection of the other...scientific proof enough to me that mind/Mind and all consciousness is One item.

now, if I just convince you..... ;D

I'm already convinced this is why I used the word "funny" otherwise Iwould use "important" instead ;D

 Hi all,

Fourth dimensional awareness can be thought of as the understanding of physical objects from a spiritual viewpoint, and understanding the spiritual from a physical viewpoint...

 They interrelate since the physical is a reflection or patterning of faster vibrating, more energy dimensions.

For example, at age 12 to about 15, i was obsessed with genetics, heredity, and race theories...  At that point, i thought about being a geneticist...  Anyways, just lately i've been putting some theories together relating astrological Archetypes, Astrological Ages, Root races, and general understanding of how Consciousness molds the physical through "time"--all together..

 You must understand the theory behind group vibrations, and individual vibrations link to ever expanded more collective group vibrations...  At the so called top is the Pure White Light energy hidden behind the Dark Purple/Violet...

 But consider a very interesting peoples and their interesting history--The Hebrews...  An unusal people Cayce Source's called them, yet orignially raised for a purpose, and many of their early leaders and prophets, had much to do with some highly spiritually evolved Beings from other systems...  

 These gave some of their genetics to the Jews, to help raise their collective vibrations, and they gave them some both very deep spiritual knowledge and yet practical health/hygiene/dietary knowledge so that the Jews througout history enjoyed some of the best collective health...  When plagues where hitting Egypt, they were fine, when plagues where hitting medival Europe, they did so well that many people blamed the plague on the Jews!  Dumb bunney's ::)

 And the early Jews, by their very spiritual and healthy lifestyles compared to most of the rest of the world's population, as a whole had a collectively fast group vibration---or you could say the Jewish thought-form was fast vibrating...   This is why the Messiah of all ages, was born to a little respected group within the Jewish population who practised non traditional Hebraic beliefs like astrolgoy, phrenology, numerology, and cycles of incarnations (especially as Soul groups incarating through the astro. Ages).....

 Anyways, the interrelationships between genetics, astrological Age evolution, Consciousness evolution affecting physicality, etc. are so vast, so sensitive in this ultra P.C. world, and so complex with both general and specific theories....well... I'm probably not ever going to share it!

 Perhaps i can share this...  If you take a group of any people, of any race, and say this group first starts out as an extended family... and they for the most part live collectively spiritual intune disciplined lives, with a balanced holistic diet, and plenty of exercise.... and you keep this population apart from hedonistic and materialistic masses, then eventually even the genetics of these people will start become "spiritualized", and the collective thought-form, will be one that attracts advanced Souls as an average, or tendency...  Because the law of Like attracts Like is always in operation.

Consider the Essenes--their piety, discipline, and health....  Yeshua, could not have been born to anyother people or groups at the time as He was, especially not in the manner He was.  They spent literally 400 years working their arses off, so they could be fit channels for the Messiah of all Ages... What does Essene mean?  Expectancy!

I do think that one can discuss the vibrational energy or mindset of different cultures and races.  The only problem, is the generalization of the trends to individuals which is a form of metaphysical racism.  I agree with the thoughts that like attracts like in the universe.  However, I am not sure what will be gained by making generalizations about races and religions.

The thoughts are interesting, but lead to all sorts of unintended consequences.

Matthew

lol wow I didn't know people would be interested in the M theory  8)

Anyway it's hard to imagine all the dimensions. I watched a show on that subject and pfff fascinating but not easy to picture.

you migh want to try the wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory but it's not an easy read. But do not fear the mighty theory since a simplified explication can be found here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory_(simplified)

and yes, "(simplified)" is part of the link

More links are offered at the end of both links.

wrote on Oct 5^th, 2005 at 11:53am:

I do think that one can discuss the vibrational energy or mindset of different cultures and races.  The only problem, is the generalization of the trends to individuals which is a form of metaphysical racism.  I agree with the thoughts that like attracts like in the universe.  However, I am not sure what will be gained by making generalizations about races and religions. The thoughts are interesting, but lead to all sorts of unintended consequences. Matthew

Yes... I sorta agree with you..but i say that these are just tendencies or generalizations...  An advanced soul can come into any circumstance, of course..  These trends, tendencies, etc. are much like in astrology...

In my view, and having done many charts, astro. has definite validity, yet it is an art of RELATIVITY, thus is often just tendencies and generalizations...  The Spiritual Will of Any Soul can overcome any influence whether it be environmental (being severely abused i.e.), hereditary/genetic, astrological, or whatever...

I always stress people's spiritual wills, people are not just robots that respond to pregrammed energies... Yet, in the masses and Mass consciousness, this is often the case--you see it culturaly, you see it astrologically, etc.  Many choose to remain slaves to their "outside influences"...  Yet through Love energy, and Spiritual Will they can transend....  

 But, how many of the millions of the people choose to do this?  More and more granted as we move into Aquarius, and i look forward to the day where every man and woman is their own Preist, Prophet, Guide, and Religion.

Regarding Yeshua, many reliable psychic and metaphysical sources have basically said that Yeshua was the fastest vibrating personality to come into the Earth---especially in the last Great cycle of 280, 000 years

The whole topic is much, much more vast than can be understood, or explained with a few pat answers or a couple years of study, etc.   This is why i am not going into depth about it...   I definitely link certain Zodiac sign Archetypes to certain peoples etc...  I see a trend of certain peoples have more certain Signs Rising than others, like many Celtic people have Fire Signs rising... And the Rising/Ascendant corresponds astrologically to the physical body, and it represents principles so transcendant, so holistic, and immediate that it is a very hard influence to grasp.....

 I would like to clarify my own personal beliefs...  In the end, i do not believe it matters much what you believe, know, can understand, perceive, etc., it was what you do with what you know and believe that matters...

 My ideal is impersonal Love (or what Bruce calls PUL),  is much more important to me than any of my theories and above named aspects of my life and very Beingness...

 Yet, the more one does live their Ideal (& the highest or most all embracing is PUL) the more one does come to a better understanding, a more wholistic perception, and psychic awareness...

 As Yesh said so succinctly, "Seek Ye first the Kindgom of Heaven (PUL) and all else will be added unto thee."

 And when i mention Yeshua, i never mean it in the Christian religious sense---Yeshua and Christianity couldn't be farther apart, in general.

 At some point in every souls journey, they come to the non-religious realization the Yeshua is the director and overall Guide of spiritual evolution in the Earth.  Why, only he has fulfilled the Whole Part..

 This does not mean that anyone needs to believe in him, especially not in a religious sense, but rather, His example is the way to the Father/Mother.  He met every situation with Grace, Strength, and Love.  And the first of the Sons of Men to revivify his body in this last great Astrological cycle (12 times 12 ages of 2300 yrs or so)

 This does not mean i do not respect the heck out of Buddha, Krishna, or any of the other great Teachers that came so that we may be happy and at peace..

 I am a Universaltist at heart and always seek to look at things from a broader and more expanded view point---i have never been encrusted in dogma--all though coming close to such with the Edgar Cayce material....

Hi all,

Again, I come in very late in the conversation.

Just want to first say that I love M theory.  There's a good show explaning it called The Elegant Universe.  Is that the show you are talking about Raphael?  It is done very well and makes so much sense.  It is worth it to go check it out from the library.  Even if you don't think you're into that sort of thing, you will be.  

Vicky

I'm currently reading this:

The Elegant Universe

Which covers string theory and multidimensions.  Its quite interesting..I saw a show on it too, on NOVA, I believe which got me more interested (I've always been fascinated by physics).

I'm taking it a bit at a time, as I'm also reading several other books too.. ;D

Shirley,

Have you read "Beyond Einstein" by Michio Kaku?  Great and fascinating coverage of quantum physics, and an easy read.  

Hey everyone!

I haven't read everything yet but can't wait when i got some time to go through it and try and understand! Seems really amazing.

But i did want to post that link just so you know what got me interested.  

Ok the pc is working again, i will post this, restart and then put the link up!

But its about this woman who dies and then has a fourth dimension body? this body has different characteristics such as it can't be hurt and stuff, shes also now constantly aware of the toher side etc. I was pretty amazed even if something like this is kinda true...

Ryan