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Message started by laffingrain on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 10:35am

Title: Smaller PE groups
Post by laffingrain on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 10:35am
Due to information from Herb, Mendel, Shirley and observing Ryan's success with Vicky on PE's, I think I have to say smaller groupings of PE are better to produce more hits than trying to find everybody's signature out there.
I suggest we do two more trips to the crystal as a large group and begin thinking about breaking up into groups of two and three for greater success.
I have no clue who wants to work with whom and this is only a suggestion to consider. three seems to be the appropriate number though. then when we begin getting more hits, it looks like we could do five in a group and expand outward that way.
we seem to be creating a group entity.
something to think about! love to you all, alysia ;)

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by chilipepperflea on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 10:48am
I think this is good, specially for learning, too much too soon is a bit overwhelming and i agree with Alysia won't be best for hits and building that proof, even though i would beg differ, the more the better! But i know deep down i have to be paitent haha lol.

I do think though maybe once a month or even once every two months for me i would like to just try meeting up you know just to meet everyone and get to know everyone! Maybe we could all split up but also try meeting at the crystal all together once every month or something just to see how we are all progressing?

Ryan

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by laffingrain on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 11:21am
thanks Ryan, I think you have the idea defined for me; that we define as we go along...a guide who took me on a journey, did ask this question one time when I said "make it real this time!" she asked me to define real. well, I wasn't sure; so I said I would like a few of my five senses to be operating well within this journey as that is how I define real! as you know, there is a 6th sense, so defined, that we do develop here. I suppose Bruce might call it a perception widening, to that effect. as we work with that interpretor so much to define reality. we interpret it according to our own experiences, so when we do get hits, like Kat and Matt got with the roses....it's rather amazing, don't u think? as well I am still amazed that you discovered Vicky works in a hospital..you did not have this info beforehand. so u see I do see success here. I am still excited about it.
Agreed to have an open PE forum here, where any person who wishes to post a group experience can feel free anytime of the day or night or month and that we continue to do two more saturday trips and after that reacess what everyone wants. I want to have it once a month as an invitation. but not like a duty or to produce something...just an invitation.
I appreciate the lovely hearts here who are honest also. i think PUL is the key to travel on and acceptance of one another. love, alysia

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Shirley on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 12:07pm
That sounds like an excellent idea, Alysia and Ryan..

And Ryan, in answer to your question in the other thread, I am always open to connections "out there".

I've had them fully awake..once while making biscuits at work.  A wonderful dance that I saw/took part in all the while still here..cutting out biscuits for the kiddos breakfast.

I do reach out nightly, to the astral locations..would feel strange to try to a physical location without letting folks know first.

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by somebody on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 12:27pm
Alysia, I think is a great idea! it's hard to think about meet everybody when I'm just beginner. and I don't know you all much... I think I need to learn it slower, not everything at once.

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Lucy on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 12:41pm
Well I fell asleep last night but that's OK.

I like the idea of having a set time to meet in a large group. This is because if it is a large group I feel that if I fall asleep it is OK because others will be there.

I don't think the actual time matters...I mean, you don't have to go at the set time. It is important as a kind of landmark. I don't understand what the time is anyway because what I thougth was the time doesn't jive with what people say they did.

It is 3:30 PM where I am now. When I post this that post will say 12:30. Is it 12:30 where Alysia is?

If it is 3:30 PM in east coast, it is 8:30 PM in London, 12:30 PM in Los Angeles, and 5:30 AM the next day in Sydney.

We set the time as a kind of landmark to go to. If it is feasible to do that at the same time in real time, then that is good. But the time is a destination as well as a place.

I have to run an errand, back later.

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by chilipepperflea on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 1:20pm
I just have one problem i can't get my head around though, probly isn't the place to explain but while its being mentioned...

Ok if theres no time say I tried Saturday Morning and met up with you all, now say you guys were all at work you won't be able to remember that meeting or be there "yoruselves", the only way in my head i can explain it is if it were you but your other selves??

Then comes saturday night, and the rest of you meet up and I'm there but not me here there, well our accounts will be different and we won't be able to remember the experiences of each others if you see what I'm getting at, just can't get my head around it!

Or maybe its really complicated and i can meet up earlier and somehow what i percieve is like the future in a sense because when you guys all meet up later it will be the same, its just that somehow somthing knows what each of you will do so i can live it at one moment and you can the other. SO in theory it happens twice but only once but certain people are concious from here in C-1 out there at different times?

Did that make sense cuz i'm lost right now! lol. Need to look into this more....

Ryan

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by chilipepperflea on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 1:21pm
I swear i just saw a post by marilyn saying about how time doesn't matter at the beginning of it....Not there now....now i'm really confused and going mad! lol

Ryan

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Marilyn Maitreya on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 1:24pm
Ryan, time does not exist. Period. Forget about the time. All you have to do is set your INTENT and you will be there as I posted on the other thread on PE's.  In a book I recently read, one of the higher beings said that Earth is the only place that has created a way to keep track of something that doesn't exist. He said it with a chuckle.  I just visited the group at the crystal a day late. It doesn't matter. ;-)

Love, Mairlyn  ;D

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by laffingrain on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 1:24pm
cool Mairlyn. I've been looking for you here. then I just noticed something, that this is the shift in consciousness occurring on the entire board and in the world! and so whether we have PE in a group sense or not, or in smaller groups, it's still going to happen as it's like a wave of energy sweeping over the earth! so everybody stop worrying about linear time which we made up as we needed a sense of orderliness..maybe it's all left brain orderliness...maybe we just need to realize we are working with the right brain more appropriately, or to get the two halves of the brain synchronized which is what Monroe was doing with the invention of hemi-sync. so onward ho!

by the way, the first time I went out I saw and petted Hannah's Moshe, and he was cuddled up to her legs, so glad to be with her! was he very protective of you Hannah?

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Marilyn Maitreya on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 1:30pm
Alysia, you know we're going to blow Hannah right out of the water with this, don't you? LOL

Love, Mairlyn ;-)

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by chilipepperflea on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 1:36pm
Hey

Well ok i can accept no time just can't understand it yet lol! So that means I'm gonna try tonight and know if i get there i will call you all over...thats if you aint there already!

Ryan

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by laffingrain on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 2:22pm
Mairlyn said: Alysia, you know we're going to blow Hannah right out of the water with this, don't you? LOL
 _____
yea, she loves that Moshe so much.....I know! ha ha!
____

I don't know if anyone notices how much this PE thread is smokin' but I just got blown out of here because I think we were all tryin to post at the same time! lol!  I gave it a bit of rest..like 2 minutes! lol. I'm back and u didn't even miss me did ya! Ryan, hello, I had a whole smear of stuff to say to you and lost it!

it appears you will get it about linear time versus no time. sometime check out Destiny of Souls. a hynotherapist regresses folks and a common thread is that there is a part of us, our universal mind, or higher self, or a part of our energy which stays "over there." we are connected to it, as in semi consciousness, but it lives in "no time zone" or all time zone..past, present, future all one thing, not a lot of alarm clocks over there to my pov. anyway, I call it my observor self lives there, always watching, checking me out, to see I don't goof up too badly perhaps!;D  sometimes even giving me delightful surprises which I had considered previously to be goof ups! I think this is the part of us which does a group synergistic thing. people used to call it God. let us not go there ;)  God is a good catch all term which when we don't understand ourselves. we used to say, it is God's will, or the devil made me do it. the way I see our society these days is a merge towards more science and less religion, but yet we still treasure the value of acceptance and lovingness of one another..more spiritual than religion. ok, u almost have my whole life story...u shouldn't have a problem finding me out there! love ya! thanks for saying I can sing good...you're so young, I thought our taste in music different! love and light! alysia

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Lucy on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 2:33pm
Time may be one of our inventions, but then so must be space. It makes sense to me to plan to meet at The Crystal on Saturday October 1 2005at 11:00PM Denver time vs on Saturday October 8 2005 at 11:00 PM Denver time (and versus meeting at the Sydney Opera House, for instance,) but maybe all meetings there merge. Why do we have to meet at the crystal? Why don't we just meet?   but I don't think I know how to sort it out. It is just a place-marker. But if it is easier for someone to take it literally in order to learn, then take it literally. I thought we were using that for a place-marker because we don't know each other well enough to use each other.

Alysia, I thougth your comments about Monroe saying there were 1000 (or so ) "people" there was interesting, because when I did think I went there, last week, I said it was crowded to me. Well mall was better than bar. But it seemed like a party.

I never sent you a pic? I sent someone a picture once, must be from another site. I have collar/shoulder-length hair. I've always wished it were longer but it won't grow well. It is brown. I have been thinking recently it is a little dark though, that I wish I had been in the sun more this summer. It is darker than college, when I practiced better living through chemistry and it was blonde. So I think of it as darker than blonde. I don't think of it as fluffy, but when I ran that past my son, he commented that well yes it wasn't heavy so that made it fluffy.

Hannah I like your necklace but I have to think about it more.

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Marilyn Maitreya on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 2:44pm
Don't know if this will post or not. I also got blown off Alysia and am having a real hard time getting everything to load. I'll give it a rest for awhile.  

Yes Lucy, there is no space also.  I have a real hard time with that one myself. But we are all right here right now. In fact, it's all inside of us, each of us since we are all ONE.
Can't explain it.  I just go with it. LOL

Love, Mairlyn  ;D

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by chilipepperflea on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 2:55pm
Ok I'm kinda getting so say i go out and we all meet up, when you go to sleep and have a dream you are remembering it? Or am I going away again and trying to understand it too much? lol

I don't know what just happened in the board! And that really gets to me when i lose stuff i typed out and i can't normally be bothered to write it all up again! lol so thankyou for doing so!

I love allsorts of music! Name anything i will most probly try it except heavy thrash where they scream down the mics and boy bands! May sound weird from an 18year old but i love music so much, its to me more than hearing or playing notes, its who we are and soulful and expression about saying what you have to say to the world and as long as it is that it is good music! i did really enjoy yours and specially since it had all those qualities in it! are they available of your website i think i read? Have to look into that! Ive only heard "Who?" atm.

but saying that i love my chilipepper funk from back in the 80's, the uplift mofo party plan album! I just made a song as well! Well a verse while this board was offline, see if i can post it up for you guys to listen, it won't have energy in it tho, its on the computer :(.

Ryan

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by laffingrain on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 3:40pm
Mair, I looked at the posting time and four of us were posting within minutes of one another, must have created a traffic jam! squealing tires, i can see it now!

Right, thinking about Lucy..no I never saw a picture of you and I don't think the fluffy hair is a hit, but thanks for trying to see it as fluffy! could be you have a lot of body in your hair as opposed to say flat against the head? (still trying, ha ha!) are you 5'4 approx? the evenly proportioned? she was cute whoever she was!

right, no time, no space because as every good scientist knows you must have time to have space, or location I should say. maybe David will join us..he knows this dimensional stuff of mind better than me! fer sure!  I think you got it right, a good word Lucy used was place marker. and what else she said rang a bell in me...Anna said the same..we don't know each other "well" enough. so we might...get to know each other better as we go on...I'm already getting more clues about you all...what I think we are doing is an exercise in imagination, which is supposed to yield results eventually..the imagination becomes a door to walk through...not to stay in the doorway exactly..we all seem sometimes to be stuck in the door jamb, about 1,000 people in the door jamb...nice.....still, I'm having fun and I hope it's ok with you all to take some more peeks. maybe it works to let each person pass single file? just by paying attention. I love the hits we have, which are hits we didn't have before. speaking of the roses and Ryan's recent obe.
heres a thought; what would it be like to not have a body? to think yourself up to another? would it be like groping in the dark? might be. we need to feel our way. use feelings more. give gifts when we travel..healing or delivering boost seems to be a favorite pastime out there as a part of the greater universal set up. the only time I've experienced anything phenonmenol in obe or dream, or intentional objective endeavors is when I was either searching for love, giving it, or receiving it from another...so maybe thats why retrievals are a great way to surf out there first.
Lucy, I imaged a forum as a mall before also, complete with an escalator; seems logical as a forum can be selling many ideas as can be seen as storefronts.

Ryan, I see dreams as a way to remember what I'm up to at night, as unlimited mind, while the body sleeps. but I also see dream symbology to convey how I surf concepts, ideas by using objects. I see symbols as just symbols of my real spiritual  activities..I have to break the code by using the interpretor. Its like when Hannah said she gave me an Emerald necklace. each stone has a certain vibration and each color the same..if I want to break the code I would search out books to help me understand what stones are in personal reference in terms of who and what I am. in this way, every dream object has a hidden meaning to discover. so yes, I'd say dreams are the same as obe in that sense, just that the sensations are absent in one and perhaps is a matter of degree of awarenss of participating in such a fluid and creative state. meditate on this one for awhile...it will blow you away "I AM THAT I AM."

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Vicky on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 5:10pm
Hi everyone,

I don't know where to post anymore!   :)  There is so much happening on this board suddenly that it is hard to keep up.  It took me a long time just to catch up on all the new posts that took place today.

I didn't have a good night last night, didn't connect at all.  But I will keep trying.  

I think it is getting overwhelming now with so many people and it is hard to keep up and remember what everyone has to say too.  I'm not complaining, just saying how I feel.  I don't want to miss out on anything someone has posted.  I know there are so many of you that I need to get to know better.  

There is so much I want to respond to, so many individual posts that keep flying by because I'm not here to post immediately.  I guess I will just take my time and respond when I can.  I really do feel bad if I don't respond, I don't want anyone to think I'm not paying attention or not sincere.  

Anyway, thanks for listening.  My family is bugging me to get off the computer for a while, but I will be back later!  

Love to all,
Vicky
:)

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by laffingrain on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 5:36pm
Hi Vicky, we've sort of solved the problem you're talking about to only do a once a month scheduled PE (excluding the next two Saturday nites, gang?)

then do smaller PE with 2 or 3 people involved, the way you and Ryan did so well!
and also leave it open for discussion whenever...so don't worry! love, alysia

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Vicky on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 6:36pm
Ok.

I am happy with what I've received so far.  You are right Alysia, that imagination method does prove to work.  I've got some thoughts to add about it but I need to look at my notes, give it some more thinking, and I know there is something there I want to expand on.  Just give me more time to think and get it straight in my head.  I think I'm just too tired tonight.  (We just had a hamster funeral, and more tears, and some good talk about the afterlife.  It was endearing but sad).   Tomorrow I will feel better.

Vicky




Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Willowheart on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 6:45pm
Mairlyn & Alysia,

  You're right, you have just blown me outta the water again!

  I didn't mention Moshe because I didn't see him ... what I also didn't mention is:  When I decided to go to bed early to try the 2nd time, I asked Moshe to join me on this if he wanted too.  

  It's a terrible thing to go through, putting down your dog, your friend, your most devoted most loving companion.  If there had been any other option, any at all ... but, there wasn't.  I'm thinking that I may be blocking myself from being able to see him now.  I keep following Linn's (and others) advice to continue telling him how much I love him.  

  But, you both saw him.  He's happy, playing with Spirit, I'll bet he just loved that, he loved playing with Fanny, here.  And Alysia, just the way you termed that ...
{  by the way, the first time I went out I saw and petted Hannah's Moshe, and he was cuddled up to her legs, so glad to be with her! was he very protective of you Hannah?  } He was such a massive Chesapeake, close to 100 pounds, yet with me, I used to tell him he thought he was a cat, by the way he would rub against my legs!  Sometimes he'd nearly knock me over at the kitchen sink, and I'd just sit down on the floor and let him be a lap dog for a bit.  And yes, he was protective of me, to the max.

  So, thank you so much for seeing him with me, and for sharing that.  It's been 2 months ... I thought I'd wait much longer ... but I went to an animal shelter today, and will probably be getting a small 8 mo. old male Black Lab.  Somehow I feel that Moshe is behind this!  He'd want me to have the protection that he provided, and he'd want this lovely abandoned fella to have a good home.  

  As for these PE's ... I'm excited!  I know I need to relax more, and just let things flow instead of trying so hard.  And at least the night before, during my "practise", I did see the Crystal, and Mairlyn and Spirit!  And the time before that, Mairlyn & Alysia together.  So maybe that's what getting our signatures means ... since I've seen both your pictures, but we've not met in person, but have somehow communicated our I AM essence to each other.  If I can get this much, then surely I'll get more, in time.  (Oh oh, there's that 4 letter 'time' word again! LOL)  

  So, I'm delighted to be included with this, and I feel pretty sure we're all going to be surprised with what we pick up, even when we don't think we're getting things that 'count'!  

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Marilyn Maitreya on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 7:10pm
You're doing great Hannah. And you know, sometimes we remember things later that we didn't at the time too.  

Yes, it sounds like it's time for you to get another dog. Moshe knows best.  Moshe will help with the new pup too.  I know that Teddy is here a lot helping with Spirit.

Much Love, Mairlyn ;-)

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by laffingrain on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 7:34pm
Well Hannah! I'm so glad it seems I got a hit with Moshe..and I do remember thinking, how strange that she leans so closely to Hannah..I wonder how Hannah likes that? (I'm a small critter person)
so now that u told me she was like a cat, it figures! wow! it's really fun to get a hit!
and was wondering Mairlyn if you have a book handy what emeralds mean spiritually? it was intriguing the way we each had our own stone from Hannah...I'll find out someday what it means :D

you are lighting a fire under me once more Hannah! glad u joined us. love, alysia

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Marilyn Maitreya on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 10:13pm
I got this from a website on the internet:

Emerald
"The Stone of Successful Love"  
and "The Healer's Stone"
Color:  Green: The color of Healing and Hope.  Made of the base mineral beryl, with minute traces of chromium and vanadium giving this gemstone the "green fire
Metaphysical:
As a POWER STONE it offers physical, emotional and spiritual balance.

Although Emerald is a stone of prosperity and riches, it is not just a materialistic stone.  It also encourages spiritual growth, clear vision, memory, faith, intelligence and communication, inspiration, joy, intuition, clairvoyance, sensuality, love, romance, beauty, harmony, tranquility, serenity, clarity, cleansing, justice, friendship and unity.  It seems that more kinds of physical healing have been ascribed to the emerald than to almost any other stone.

Relationships: Brings security in love. It allows access to the mystery we hold deepest in our hearts, thereby healing and activating our highest hearts desire. Many women over the centuries have chosen this crystal over Diamond as their wedding stone. Emerald's harmonic energies help make your relationship more successful and promotes domestic bliss. This gem can show you a crystal clear solution to a tough problem. Helping couples work through the early stumbling blocks that often kill relationships.

Psychic: A powerful stone of psychic insight, prophecy, and abundance.

Serenity: Emeralds have a tranquilizing affect on the heart and mind, inspiring calm, clear assurance.

Healing: Emerald is best known as a stone of both spiritual love and spiritual healing, and is the stone most frequently recommended for the "wounded healer," healers who take on their clients' issues or who don't focus enough on their own healing.

 Creativity: It is also a crystal related to abundance and creativity.

Truth: This is a truth promoting stone, inspiring deep “Heart” knowing from within.

Group Dynamics: Improves group unity.  This gem is especially helpful in large work situations, it promotes harmony within the group and helps them work together for solutions.

Career: Keep an Emerald in your work space. It improves your memory & increases your mental skills. The gem brings greater focus, allowing you to see the best solutions, giving you the tools you need to overcome challenges & motivates you to act.

Heart Chakra: Emerald is excellent for protecting  the heart Chakra. Your Heart Chakra can be opened or activated using an Emerald.

Physical:
Aids healing in the areas of eyesight, upper respiratory tract, liver function, strengthens the immune system & helps you recover from infections (pneumonia); fortifies the heart and detoxifies the blood; anti-inflammatory.  Breathing, heart, lymph nodes, blood, thymus, pancreas, balance blood sugar, childbirth, labor, eyesight. respiratory inflammations, .

Strengthen heart Chakra for abundance, growth, peace, harmony, patience, love, fidelity, monogamy, honesty. Lift depression and insomnia. Excellent general healer.


Professions: All Healing professions, Doctors, Nurses, Ambulance, Counselors, Psychiatrists,


4th Chakra: Heart

Astrological Sign: Stone of Taurus and Gemini.

#2 and #4 vibrations.

Birthstone: May



Archangel Raphael is the Archangel for those in need of healing, wholeness, and unity and he is affiliated with the colors green and deep pink.



Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Shirley on Oct 3rd, 2005 at 2:47am
Mair..what website did you find that on?  I've done a search, but can't find it.  I had one before,but didn't bookmark it.

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by laffingrain on Oct 3rd, 2005 at 8:17am
wow Mair, that was so cool about the emerald, it all rings perfectly true; isn't it a little amazing that it is associated with the 4rth heart chakra which I worked on opening in this life? and the deep fushia color, a deep pink is mentioned which a guide pointed out to me had developed in another chakra, can't remember which one right now, unless it was the solar plexus. I noticed deep pink and green are colors of archangel Raphael, which I know nothing about these beings..at least not consciously!
so Hannah dear, looks like you have another eye popping hit! love, alysia

and thank you Mairlyn for giving me that information.

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Marilyn Maitreya on Oct 3rd, 2005 at 9:50am
Shirley, it was here:

http://www.gemstonegifts.com/stones/emerald.htm

They don't have opals though and that's what I was given.  :'(

Love, Mairlyn ;-)

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by chilipepperflea on Oct 3rd, 2005 at 4:35pm
Well i haven't had much success so far with our experiments and can't get to sleep again! But before i gave up i just imagined meeting up! This is more phasing but i was far too concious and awake in C-1 for this to be phasing but some things did happen unexpected but was fun just imagining, i'm hoping i'll find you all out there one day so just imagining i hope is setting deep intentions!

Anyway I came up to the crystal and looked at it, I'm finally here! I touch it, can't believe it, i look around and notice Alysia, hey over here, i'm here! I also notice Vicky on the other side of the crystal and we hugg and I'm happy we have met and were laughing! Alysia comes up and bites the crystal! lol she says it isn't real and i think that was her proving to me, its over there and she points, i imagine two crystals are on two little hills, one fake and one real so i start to run down the hill to the next one but Alysia flying over head says what are you doing!? Fly! Fly! so i do and we fly and ended up flying round the crystal then suddenly we shoot up together high in the clouds??

Up in the clouds is another crystal...the way i thought of it was the crystal is below but we are now at the conciousness of the crystal (same shape), i seem to know about this and tell Alysia look at that! only touch it with your finger though theres so much energy up here its too much too handel! Alysia touches it and the power is strong and shes filled with energy and is amazed!

As we are floating down she says to make sure i show Vicky as well which i promise and we then we return to the crystal. I fly round and grab Vicky and we start to fly up, she wonders what were doing and i say I have to show her something! We find the Crystals conciousness again and shes amazed and excited as well! I tell her about only touching with 1 finger and she acknowledges, the crystal this time is surrounded by a sphere of energy, we put our heads through and she touches it and can't believe the power coming from this crystals conciousness! We return down to the crystal and start dancing a bit but decide we should have some fun and i say well the only thing i can think of is....and i tag Alysia and shout "your it!" lol

Vicky relising what just happened and me run away and fly and Alysia chases us, i hide behind the crystal but Alysia's too smart and i feel a presence  behind me, and i turn round and Alysia shouts ah-ha think you could hide!? as she tags me lol and then flys away i chase after but then notice Vicky trying to hide in the corner haha! So i fly after her but shes too fast! So i sit on the grass and say I've given up! Vicky and Alysia come to me and ask why then i say haha not really and tag Vicky! Shes annoyed by this (in a good way! lol) and flys after me and rugby tackles me and we fall to the floor, Alysia comes over and we all sit down laughing after the fun we have just had.

We then decided with all this fun we should send out love to everyone and help for the future so we link in a circle (like in sports just before the game) and a giant beam of energy shoots from us up into the air! This stops and I say that i must go and enjoyed my time here and that i must go write it up anyway just to share, Alysia said she'll see me on the board, shes here already and Vicky said the same, i say ok ill see you on there! and turn to leave.

Just before i do i notice a group of people watching what was happenig. This group i know is from the board, i say hello an didn't see them there but had to go. I instantly sit up not shifting any concious at all as i wasn't really anywhere anyway except here on C-1. Just like to share, a few things happened unexpected but was just fun and i hope I've set intentions to meet with you all soon!

Ryan

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by chilipepperflea on Oct 3rd, 2005 at 4:36pm
Haha i just checked you are both here :)!

Ryan

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Vicky on Oct 3rd, 2005 at 4:41pm
This might not be the best place to put this post, but it might be I don't know.

There are so many of you who I don't talk directly with very much, but I'd just like to say that I appreciate you being here even if I don't directly acknowledge you.  I learn so much from people here, and I don't always remember who I learned what from, so this is just a general THANK YOU to all of you.

There are some specific people like Hannah, who I'd like to tell I appreciate you too, you seem very open minded and loving.  I'm glad I am getting to know you.

And Mairlyn, I haven't told you this, but you always seem to put things into the words that I couldn't, or you explain things in such a way that makes it all clear to me.  Did you know that I sometimes wake in the wee hours feeling like you are talking to me?  I never remember the dream, but I feel like you are imparting knowledge to me--I just need to work on my memory.   ;)

And to others, I will get around to thinking of what I wanted to say, but like I said before, so many people are posting these days it is hard to keep up.  It takes all my energy just to read it all.   ;)

On another note, what I wanted to expand on was how the imagination method can open up awareness.  Using the imagination can get the creative process started, and then with a little trust (and no doubt) that perception can open up even further and that's when unexpected things start to happen.  This is what Bruce's work explains.  I just needed time to sort it out and understand it.  

Then, the only thing I don't know is what causes the next step in pushing it into phasing or OBE.  What is the trigger?  

This is the process that took place for me when I did my first retrieval of the kids starting a fire in a barn.  First I just trusted using my imagination, then unexpected things happened and I trusted and played along, and then I got a full blown color 3D visual and the feeling of being a point of consciousness outside my body.  
I haven't reproduced that experience yet, or any other like it.  I am working on it, but most of my problem is finding a quiet place and time alone.  But I know that it can be done.  

I just wanted to share my breakthrough in understanding how that process works.  Thanks for letting me think out loud here.

Love, Vicky  :D

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Vicky on Oct 3rd, 2005 at 4:55pm
;D   RYAN I LOVE IT!

You and I must have been writing our posts at the same time.  As soon as I sent mine yours was there.

You must be the reason I got a sudden burst of energy and love and that's why I made my post!  I am feeling very happy right now and wanted to share and make everyone feel good.  

So thanks for making me touch the crystal!   ;D

I am glad you came back to get me--after flying off without me!  Did I seem afraid to fly?  Because I am! And playing tag is my most favorite game.  We goof around and play it all the time, when it is least expected, like in a store or something.  I am always goofing around like that, so that sounds like something I would definitely partake in.  

And it sounds like me that I would get playfully annoyed if you tried to trick me, that is so me.  And yes, I would tackle you--I tackle my son and play rough like that with my kids, well we actually all do that to each other in this family.  We play a lot!

Oh my gosh, that sounded like so much fun.  I really needed to hear that.  Thanks for posting it Ryan, you really made my day, again.  Wow, you keep surprising me.  Now I am so excited!

Love,
Vicky

:)

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by chilipepperflea on Oct 3rd, 2005 at 5:06pm
Yeah i saw that as well your post as soon as i posted! lol

I love your writing again this is aexactly how it happened to me!

"First I just trusted using my imagination, then unexpected things happened and I trusted and played along, and then I got a full blown color 3D visual and the feeling of being a point of consciousness outside my body"

Man you can explain things perfectly, i havent been able to repeat either yet! Like this experience i just posted was like a day dream but i always knew i was here in my body on C-1, i have 3D kinda visuals at parts and some parts i forgot i was here in C-1 as i was too into the scene happening but never got my conciousness outside my body but then again things happened unexpectadly so i enjoyed it and was fun! But i wouldnt call it phasing, not if what i experienced before was?? Ok now i better stop thinking for the moment before i get too carried away on here lol!

Ryan

I forgot to say im not sure if you were afraid to fly, you were standing on the grass like waiting, wondering where we went lol! I flew from behind and grabbed yer and we flew upwards so i didn't see you flying although you did when we played tag! You rugby tackeled me in the air haha! So i would say you wernt but then in the excitment and fun of the game. I really laughed as well because when i tagged Alysia before she even relised it you looked at me as if to say wicked! and laughing ran like hell along with me, we just parted and ran leaving Alyisa in the middle going "right ill get ya!" lol was actually really fun even if it was just imagination! ;)

Ryan

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by laffingrain on Oct 3rd, 2005 at 7:04pm
I'm a bit overwhelmed with all the verifications I see going on with Spooky, Tim, Ryan, Hannah and sorry if I missed some other verifications but I will let u discover them yourselves. I do confer with Tim that there is
<too much> information to remember. I find the next day yields up more as another brings it to my attention, yes, I do think that I had also imaged the same thing, although my fingers did not type it!!! :P
you might find yourself the unwilling recipient of another book from me should I continue.... ::)
just some brief references:
Spooky: I kept trying to keep my hat on and it kept disappearing :P
Vicky and Ryan: I kept wanting to post this to Vicky it's called a "tag" icon.  
Ryan: I have been shoving my hand into the crystal for days as well as a few other hands of others...stood in it a couple of times and shot out the top numerous times..put my cheek on it, can't remember taking a bite but I might have licked it just to be a little crazy..ahem... ;D
I do remember seeing Ryan once at the crystal and we waved then but he would not stay in once place very long. I'm still enchanted with Vicky finding me and taking me into a planners committee with two others. I probably have books to write but I better quit for now! love, alysia

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by spooky2 on Oct 4th, 2005 at 5:59pm
Hi especially Ryan and everyone,
just want to tell I think what you did with the imagination method is just what TMI and Bruce are teaching and what I and the TMI/Bruce's graduates are doing. So, cool, you can do it all! I see no big difference in imagination and phasing, of course there may be an increasing level of vividness and confirmable C1(partner-) related informations.
Now, what you've seen, the second, higher crystal, reminds me on my own "going higher" experiences some time ago. For me it was more and more etheric the higher you go until forms and even space became less and less meaning, but there were pictures, but ever combined with the message: "This is just a picture." Well allright, take a look on your own!

Well Alysia btw you mentioned your hat, there was a chaotic scene which I can't really get together but one time you had your hat on and then you or me took your hat off...with your head! ha ha, I said no this is too much, please earnest scenes only from now on!

Bye, Spooky

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by laffingrain on Oct 4th, 2005 at 6:35pm
well ha ha! Spooky, if my head came off as well I took a bite from the crystal, I must say I'm glad your guides did instruct us we were just dealing with images! ;D I will put this in my hat and smoke it for a while...love, alysia

thought I should clarify...dealing with images which lead me further to more self discovery, such discovery also unexpectantly leads me to find my connections with all of you...ok, not to confuse any!

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by chilipepperflea on Oct 4th, 2005 at 7:29pm
Hey spooky2 thankyou for that reply. I wasn't sure but to know thats what Bruce teaches and at TMI makes me think I'm doing something right.

You know i was thinking about this so much a little while ago, just before you posted and i said how it didn't seem real as i didn't spend ages relaxing and shift my conciousness (well i kinda did getting involved in the scene) but i was thinking, actually it was pretty real, and that things did happen, quite a lot unexpectedly which unless I'm wrong is the way I know its real. So i was thinking about this and then you posted confirming my beliefs so thankyou for doing that, it has helped!

Learning new ways every day now it seems! ;)

Ryan

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Vicky on Oct 4th, 2005 at 7:49pm
Hi Ryan, don't you ever sleep?   ;)

When I read it Ryan, I believed it to be real, even though you said it was "only imagination".

I know I was just in a really good mood yesterday, but your account of us playing around sounded real to me.  It sounded like a lot of fun and more than what you could just pretend.  

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by chilipepperflea on Oct 4th, 2005 at 7:53pm
Yeah thats what i mean and you rugby tackling and suddenly feeling more energy just kinda reflects on it as well. Plus i didn't expect to go up to the crystal, in fact as me and Alysia first went up i was like hang on i'm not meant to be doing this! And i tried to go back down but couldnt?? But as soon as the crystal came into view it kinda took over again.

Thankyou for all the replies though, it was fun hearing all the feedback and i think its time or a new thread again! Really happening in here atm!

And yeah i don't sleep, this is the second night in a row now??? - seems to be getting worser this not getting to sleep business :-/

Ryan

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Vicky on Oct 4th, 2005 at 7:57pm
You poor thing.  I get sleepy just thinking about you.   :D

(Rugby tackle--I'd pay money to see me do that!)

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by chilipepperflea on Oct 4th, 2005 at 7:59pm
In the air as well!  :o

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Vicky on Oct 4th, 2005 at 8:01pm
I guess I am multi-faceted, what can I say?

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by laffingrain on Oct 4th, 2005 at 8:05pm
hmm..I'm still getting a few like images here and there about our PE's...Ryan when I first imagined my boat ride to get you, I asked you "are you coming?" you seemed surprised I was there...then i said get in my boat! ha ha! scuse me, I am still cracking up.
I knew u could make it there without me, but I thought since i was there, and Anna was waiting u should come in my boat and I wouldn't make you do the rowing ;D (lots of snickering going on from the crew)  as they told me it was useless to row...well you hopped in and we shot off...towards the crystal, you had a look on your face like big eyed, like you weren't quite sure u were there. if we keep talking this way, we will need to make a new thread I guess! ;D

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by Vicky on Oct 4th, 2005 at 8:07pm
That's funny Alysia.  

Are you remembering stuff that you didn't before?

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by chilipepperflea on Oct 4th, 2005 at 8:16pm
Guess you are vicky ;)!

Haha I've been trying to so hard and disapointed with my results or lack off when you showed up Alysia i must of been shocked to hell i was going and we had met up and you were taking me there haha!

Talking about Ania (somebody just in case some people are unsure) an amazing thing happened today! Well we were talking in the chat room as we have been quite a lot and got onto remote viewing. Well shes actually very good and hope she doesn't mind me telling the story! But we decided to try and she was going first, anyway i said i would focus on an object to help make it easier to get something, anway sitting there i focused on the lucozade bottle in front of me....we began trying...

...then the phone rang! And it was my cousin melissa sorting out this weekend (good and bad news) anyway i started talking with her on the phone and stopped focusing on the bottle, i didn't tell Ania this! So anyway she came on saying she had seen/sensed a red bottle/glass thing which was my lucozade bottle (which was red) i was amazed! Then she said she also had me talking on something white, communication (the house phone) and she saw a female face and even descibed like the hair correctly of my cousin who i was talking to on the phone when we were trying this  :o :o :o!!! I was gobsmacked she is good! ;D

I tried as well and got that she was in her bedroom and a window to her right and doorway to her left, also the colour of her hair, i think some of these were luck though as i came up with quite a few wrong things haha! Need more practice, but thankyou Ania for showing me that, even more proof and it was fun!

And about my cousins, its sorted they are coming this weekend yey ;D! But bad news they are feeling homesick and i don't blame them, they have done loads over here and much more and i bet back home must of changed a bit, anyway the are getting an earlier flight and well its the last time i'll see them for ages :(! Just have to cram in loads of fun this weekend to make up for it haha!

Ryan

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by laffingrain on Oct 4th, 2005 at 8:28pm
yes Vicky, these were subtle conversations that went on in the background..sort of like rotes of mental telepathy which didn't seem to be relevant enough to actually write down in lieu of all the other stuff going on upstairs...but now I remember and rather write here than watch TV..I live alone...blah...but is good as then I can write more....but maybe Ryan would enjoy some subtlties after all the fireworks we have been doing together...
wow Ryan, I'm glad to hear about Anna..she is a star for sure! i wonder if she has black hair and is around 5' ths is what I saw. I was thinking if you see a window on the right, it could actually be on the left due to much is a little backwards out there when using a sixth sense. love, alysia

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by chilipepperflea on Oct 4th, 2005 at 8:35pm
Ok this is weird , funny you should say about the doorway and window, i actually wrote that down wrong, they are opposite than what i wrote down, but i did get them right somehow!

I do enjoy hearing all the stories everyone has to say, and all the little details! All adds up in the bigger picture and i try to include and many as i can possible, as I've learnt something really small and insignificant to me could be the biggest thing going to someone else for which it means something and can make them believe!

It was weird i closed my eyes and thought about how i was going to go about this and i suddenly got an image, i saw her sitting down from behind, she had shoulder length hair which was dark i saw, in fact i said maybe with a hint of redness. Turns out she has dark brown hair so kind of there!

When i actually tried i got some similarites but if you put both pictures i got together you get so many hits, this is what i mean though luck, nee dto practice. But she wow, said quite a few things all correct, she is a star ;D!

Ryan

Title: Re: Smaller PE groups
Post by somebody on Oct 5th, 2005 at 3:40am
hi,
that was a great fun! Ryan, you'r also a star! ;D i hope we'll heve more and much better that kind experinces soon.

Ania

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