One of the things I'm finding hard to diggest is that everytime we reencarnate we get a brand new family.
By now we might have hundreds of mothers and fathers, thousands of brothers and sisters, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc... Relationships lose their real meaning and importance  
It's rather sad because my dad who past away and I loved dearly would have been only a temporary father and I will not be my daughter's mum forever, and this breaks my heart.
In a sense we are all orphans. You can say we all love each other in the afterlife and the Love is unbelievable but still that special bond that family can give you is missing.
God's love will definitely fill us but still I think we will be missing on a different type of love.
Am I too humanised? Please, tell me what you think or if I'm wrong please put me right.
Thank you.

Peace, Love and Light.

Sandra.

Wow, I'm having major deja vu.  I think there was a post like yours not too long ago.

We reincarnate with souls we've been with before.  Your dad has probably been your dad before in another life, or he could have been someone else you love.  We don't have to keep the same roles each time.  

I'm very sorry if this subject has already been discussed but I didn't notice it on the board and this is something I really wanted to talk about.
Dear Vicky, don't you think if we change roles everytime is like having different relatives everytime. The person that today is my daughter can one day be my father and the relationship I share with her now will be completely lost.

Peace, Love and Light.

Sandra.

Hi Sandra,

Sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like it matters if you bring this up again--it's perfectly fine.   :)

I don't think we necessarily change roles each time, I just think it happens.  I also don't think it matters what role you have or what role someone else has.  What matters is the current relationship you have going with that person, how you treat them, what you learn from them, what you can offer them, etc.  

It is my belief that a person's personality will live on somewhere in the afterlife.  Just because we reincarnate doesn't mean that you lose that part of you that you used to be.  We are able to be in more than one place at a time.  

But I am certainly not an authority on this subject.   I am only telling you what I know and believe.  

An example I can give you...When my son was born I took one look in his eyes and felt myself thinking "Where have you been?  It's been so long since I've seen you!"  I had an immediate feeling of having been with him (his spirit) before, in another lifetime.  I am sure we have.  But even though he is a different person this time around, it is still the same spirit.  See what I mean?  There is comfort there in knowing that our core being lives on, even though we aren't exactly the same person or personality.  

We are all ONE. Therefore, we are all brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, etc. to everyone. ;-)

Blessings, Mairlyn ;-)

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Sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like it matters if you bring this up again--it's perfectly fine.

Dear Vicky, don't worry about it I understood exactly what you meant :)

I can see the point that you are making when you say we are the same inside and the important thing is that we all get together again  But we will have to relate to each other in very different ways. The relationship I had with my father might never continue as such and that will be lost. That is what saddens me.
By the way, you commented about your feelings when meeting your son for the first time. I don't know if my daughter and I knew each other before this life (Probably we did) But I did feel respect when I looked into her eyes and I thought that was quite unusual since she was a newborn. Her eyes had a very powerful look and I could sense like a kind of resignation. I was a bit scared and everything but I tried to put it to the back of my mind. I wish I knew then what I know now because I could have understood better.
Peace , Love and Light.

Sandra.

Southern Star I had a similar experience looking into my own newborn's eyes..very powerful..scared me actually at the beauty I saw there. she also looked much too wise for a newborn...she seemed to be thanking me also for being her mom. love, alysia

Southern star,

You may think in your present form that something will be lost between the ones you love . But love is never lost, in-fact it is stronger in the after life,don't forget we are existing in a low vibrational energy pattern here. So for one, time moves very slowly for us, I can assure you, you are with your father in your night time journeying even if, at present you cant recall it.

When you leave this plane of existence you will find your soul will carry no pain at all. For it is only an illusion, what we at present feel, this feeling of separation is all just how our reality is designed,its not real where your father is right now is the real world.

And he will be waiting for your return home, just as when your time is over here, you will then wait for your daughter to come home.When in full consciousness non of this really matters. We are all one, one family from the same maker,so when your in your true self back home in the higher planes, you will know there is nothing to fear or worry about all is guided by the Devinne.

Thank you for your post laffingrain. It's good to see people are having similar experiences. Thank you for sharing.
And dear LightR_on, I think you speak very wisely. I think the problem might be with me needing to learn and grow more. I can see and understand what everyone is saying in my head but not in my heart though your commments really help.
I just want to say thank you to everyone that takes the time to explain things to me and share their experiences. You help me along my way and bring me confort.
Before joining this board it was just me, my books and all my answered questions.
It's difficult when you try to share your views and evidence with your mum for example and she answers politely but looks at you like you are not well in the head. My partner listens to me and then says I should stop reading so much about it because it's gonna affect my mental health.
Just to give an example of what I am dealing with, I told my partner I had seen my father, who past away when I was 14, during meditation. His answer was "you pretend to tell me your father came here all the way from the cementery in Spain where he's buried?".....  ::)
I think finally God felt sorry for me :) and guided me here.

Peace, Love and Light.

Sandra.    

I suggest watching the film 'What Dreams May Come'.

Has a very interesting message regarding loved ones and reincarnation.  ;)

Dear magicbullet86,
Thank you for the idea. I have not seen that movie yet so I am going to download it from the net and I'll watch it as soon as I am able to save it to my PC. It sounds really interesting and I love Robin Williams...
Cheers,

Peace, Love and Light.

Sandra.

You will absoloutely love it!

However, you'll enjoy it more if you buy the DVD and watch it in the comfort of your living room or bedroom.  ;)

It's a really great film - worth it's place in a good DVD collection.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00007GZR5/qid=1126618916/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-7947704-4519038?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846

Thank you for the link magicbullet86 but I am able to record it to DVD from my hard drive.
I bought a DVD writer to copy spanish cartoons for my daughter from the net. Now I will also be able to copy this movie for myself. Let me know if you want a copy for yourself (or anyone reading this threat).
I will let you know what I think after I watch it. Can't wait...

Peace, Love and Light.

Sandra.

Yah... although I worry that you might get a half-decent copy and therefore won't be able to truely appreciate the mind-blowing visual effects in this film.

I've got it on DVD, thanks.  ;)

Your ‘family’ is what you believe it  to be.

We are taught that ‘family’ is usually only blood relations; but there are other modes o f thought…

Makes you think of Jesus’s remark that we are all brothers and sisters. Makes you wonder  if maybe he knew more than what the Bible tells us…

Just my thoughts…

Dear magicbullet86 I know what you mean.
I will see how it turns out and if it's not good then I will just have to go and buy myself a copy :)
And SO I agree with you on that one, blood is not what family is about...
Thank you for your comments.

Peace, Love and Light.

Sandra.

I can accept were all souls and that we all have connections but all play different roles for each other and there is a connection there more than mother, father, brother, sister, auntie, cousins, uncles for example but i would still love to see my "grandad" as i remember him, i would still love to be with my  family on the otherside, it may sound selfish but i don't want to lose that side just yet, i like my family even though they can be annoying and some times.

I think you might off got Deja vu Vicky because i did post this a while back?? Might be that i don't know, my question was if we reincarnate how can we have loads of familys and still each have our relationships with them, while they have theirs with their family etc etc and it was rather mind boggling. What seems to have beeen discussed makes sense to me but still would like to my family on the otherside how they were at first!

Ryan

I think it'll make much more sense when we 'return home'.

Remember that all past-lives are recorded, so even if a member of your family does reincarnate and begins a new life, your memories will never diminish. Sort of like... "Hey! Remember me! I was your brother in another life!" "Sure I do, Bob! What a great time we had!"

They won't look at you like a stranger... they'll still hold the same love and affection as they did on Earth.

- Luke

Thankyou magic bullet! I've never thought of it like that, now i can see and aren't worried about holding onto this family thing. I don't know why that just seemed to click so thanx!

RYan

I have finally watched the movie "what dreams may come".
I have to say that I enjoyed every minute of it. As entertainment is a top movie but it wasn't what I was expecting  I don't know if anyone would agree, but I found it a bit too Hollywoody (is that a word? ???.. don't think so).
I kept of braving myself up for the explosion of feelings between the father and the children when they finally met, but I was left a bit... :-/ deflated. Well maybe not everyone is so emotional as me  ;D.
I was also hoping for a few guides, teachers,... an angel here and there but.... nothing :(.
They were in heaven but the only time God is mentioned, Robin Williams' helper/son informs him; "Yes he is up there somewhere" (What?? ???) I don't expect to have God as my roommate when I cross over but  come on it has to be a closer relationship than what we have here at the momment.          
Maybe my expectations were a bit high. I forgot I was sitting down to watch a movie..., just a movie.
I must say I did enjoy the way they represented Heaven and the different heavens we create for ourselves. they also dealt beatifully with dying, and reincarnation so it wasn't that bad. Plus it's a beautiful love story so I'm glad I watched it, and I am sure I will be watching it again.

Peace Love and Light.

Sandra.

I recently watched Field of Dreams also and enjoyed it. well, it's good news and bad news I guess. but just makes me think about how important it is, my relationships I have now, as I do believe that is the only thing I will be taking with me when I do.
it was always my motive to "get it right." I think of course, reality cannot be wholly found on the TV set, though, thank god for that! ;D

I've been wanting to watch What Dreams May Come again...will someone come over and dig around my garage for it?   :)  (I still haven't unpacked much since moving four months ago).  

I had to watch it about three times before it all sank in, but I do feel it is a great movie and it really is amazing how much it portrays.  At first glance it is just a sad/sweet movie, but as I watched it again and really understood what it was saying it really came together.  There are so many messages in it.  

Okay, I guess I will just have to go rent it then.

Love,
Vicky

*Spoilers*

I'll agree that 'What Dreams May Come' is very Hollywoody, but only at the very beginning. The film really kicks off when Chris dies. I thoroughly enjoy his entry into Heaven and the dialogue between his helper Albert.

There isn't much 'God' material covered, but when you think about it, there doesn't need to be. I'm sure it would detract from the plot, which is the love between two soul mates. I think the small dialogue you mentioned is just enough 'God talk'.  :P

Chris: Where's God in all of this?
Albert: Oh He's up there somewhere... shouting down that he loves us... wondering why we can't hear Him.... you think?  ;)

There's also a nice little piece on Hell...

Albert: Hell isn't all fire and pain. Hell is your life gone wrong.

The Tracker: What were you expecting? Physical danger? What could it do? Kill you? No. The real danger in Hell is losing your mind.

Great film.  :D

I agree with you magicbullet86, it's a great movie but I just wish God had been more a part of the story.
It just gave me the impresion of God being far and detached from everything that was going on. It appeared a bit unnatural being Heaven.
How about changing the end. Instead of Robin Williams being the one to save his wife from hell, what if God as a loving father understood her reasons for suicide.
After RW loses his mind and they are both in hell, God could come in and say I can't let you be punished for loving each other too much.
Still "Hollywoody" but  hey it's a movie isn't it?. Anyway If anyone should be allowed to change the way things are in the afterlife that should have been God, don't you think?.

Peace, Love and Light.

Sandra.

But wasn't it neat that the husband loved her enough to go and retrieve her?  I absolutely loved that part!

I think that's what the movie was showing, was the power of our love for each other.

I think i should see this movie, sounds pretty good. I've seen one movie where a group of medical students temporaliry stop each others hearts beating so they can go out of body but they kinda get attack by themselves i think it is in the end, each experiencing their own fears. Nothing relaly truthful  just the cloest thing ive had to an OBRE movie so enjoyed it! lol forgot the name tho sorry

Ryan

chilipepperflea

The film name is FLAT LINE. ;)

Ah-ha! cheers kardec, it was on TV and i couldn't remember the name for anything. Sorted!

Ryan

Actually I thought the movie was more realistic and believable since god wasn't present at all in the movie.

It makes more sense to have no god or a distant god than to see one running around helping people. After all this is the relationship we currently have with it (if there is a being called god).

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agree with Raphael, God is not an errand boy. we have to remember this. each one us is a part of the whole that we call God. love, alysia

Our consciousness is a piece of God’s consciousness we were never a part from God.
The game is to discover God inside us and outside us.  
(God can be felt and understood but not saw)

Let me tell you a story we have here in Brazil about Jesus that fits also to GOD stuff.

Once upon a time there was a huge flood and a man was standing over His house roof when the Policy reached Him in a boat and tried to save Him but He said- JESUS WILL SAVE-ME and refused to get in the boat  then the last neighbors got a little boat and tried to save Him too and He said again JESUS WILL SAVE-ME, finally an helicopter went there just a few seconds before the water cover His head and He still said JESUS WILL SAVE-ME and refused to get in.

So after he died he met Jesus and complained Why didn’t you save me I trusted you so much I was sure you would save me?

Son I sent the policy, Your neighbors and even an Helicopter and you simple refused to be saved what more could I do?

Moral:

God is the love and the intelligence who support us all but we are Gods tools to save each the other.

I was just suggesting my alternative ending to this movie.
I still think there wasn't enough of God in it, whatever it is that each of us understand as God.
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Actually I thought the movie was more realistic and believable since god wasn't present at all in the movie. It makes more sense to have no god or a distant god than to see one running around helping people. After all this is the relationship we currently have with it (if there is a being called god).

I was hoping to have a different kind of relationship with God when I cross over. It has to be different than what we have here surely. Very much closer. And I most definitely did not mean to say I expected God to run around sorting everybody out. I said it would have been a nice ending for a  Hollywood film if God had been the one to intervene and save the day.
Well I am not doing well as script writer I better stick to my day job hey? ;D

Peace, Love and Light

Sandra.

Sandra,

I sincerely believe that (in my opinion) every single thing we saw at the movie was God. He was there every time. I insisted in this point because in our day life the problem is the same God is there and we can’t see.

It doesn’t matter where we are here or there our relationship with God depends on us  not on the place (Here/there) we are.  I think this could be an import subject to discuss. Don’t you?

Do you understand my point?

A Huge and respectfully kiss.

Thank you for your post Kardec,
I do know what you mean.
You know the problem with me is that I think I might be greener than most in here about the subject. I still have lots to learn and it's not easy sometimes to let go of the concepts you hold dear for many years of your life.
To me God is everywhere yes but I would also expect him to talk to me from a burning bush ;D....
Give me some time and eventually I'll get there.
My brain understands the facts, but I still need to explain it to my heart.
Receive a huge and respectful kiss from me too.

Peace, Love and Light.

Sandra.

Sandra,

Of course I understand you. and Who knows... we might get directly in God's arms wen we pass along to the other side.

To be honest I would love this Talkative_bush_thing too.  ;D

It could happen at least once in each one of us life. ;)

But I still believe something like that can suddenly happen. 8)

Love Alex.

Try not to think of God has a person but a presence - a powerful and loving force that speaks through thoughts and feelings.

He is everything.

Apon entering the Afterlife, you will know that God is present.  ;)

Sandra,

Most of us posters tend to jump too far ahead onto the afterlife because that is what this board is about and forget that there will be things we will miss and grieve over, as humans when we leave and move on. So I do hear you grief over the physical aspects of human loss of your current human family as others may grieve over the loss of the physical feel of swimming in the ocean or the feel of making angels in a twilight sparkling snow with the street lights shinning and smelling the cold crisp air.  What everyone says about the reunions, I too believe to be true, but there is also something to grieve about.  No matter how much contact I might have with my sweet husband should he die before me, nothing would quite have the human flavor of him hugging me as he does at night on this plane. We are all about change and expanding our experiences yet we still remember the past ones. I think that Monroe brought out in UJ some of what I’m saying as did my favorite film; What Dreams May Come but it also causes me to grieve in spite of the afterlife adventure in love.  Bittersweet!!!

Love, Jean :-*

P.S. In the former post mentioned above, I had just read Michael Newton's book, Destiny of Souls, which traced some of his patients past life relationships and how they felt about them. Interesting!

Much Love and Emathy one this human/spirit deleima.J

I know you will find that when you do indeed pass from this material world,there will be a great difference in your perception and knowledge of god,the universe and all that is. For one you will be fully re merged back into your higher self/over-soul.

We exist here at a very low vibrational frequency,Due to this we are partly disconnected from the all that is. At this present point in time, there are those who are trying to raise there consciousness,and regain the connection to all that is {god}.Its a grueling process and there are many many levels to move through.