My Opinion:


We are love energy who thinks and the sums of all that we feel, do, say, acts in our energetic changing it.
So when we born in a new lifetime our personality is made of the best we could get from our previous experiences and our energetic impregnates the mother’s egg in order to attract the spermatozoid with a load of DNA compliant with our current state. (Energy attracting energy)

(BOOM, mind and Soul packed and ready to start again)

This way we will inherit our own legacy not always on proposal but yet as consequence of the laws who push us every further in order to reach a state of mind were we’ll have accomplished this step of our trajectory and pain might not be useful so it will no longer be in our way.

Example: (Ficticious) (use your imagination to create other ones)

Due to ones selfish behavior he/she had gone through several lifetimes without being nurtured by good experiences like friendship, love, kids all those important pieces of our improvement process.
The “law” detects it (law is inside us) and his/her energetic gets intoxicated by such kind of bad energetic. In a new lifetime his/her intoxicated energetic can’t provide Him/Her a healthy body and for instance this one will be born with neurological problems and will have to be looked after for the ones around He/She.
During all His/Her lifetime this one have learnt how important we are one for the others and how hard is to be alone and probably His/her energetic will get changed by such experience and BOOM! here we got the problem fixed.

Seems silly I think it doesn’t.

Of course we have the ones who take care of us and they can interfere on the natural process in order to adjust our experiences and even WE when we reach the appropriate level of knowledge can make changes on it.


So not only what we think can create (our future), feelings also can do it.

WHY?

It is this way because when our antics/behavior drive us to self destruction such natural process will guide us back to the track in order to avoid us of losing the chance.
We instill have our free will but the Good guy up there does the best He can to give us the best chance.

What do you thing?

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So when we born in a new lifetime our personality is made of the best we could get from our previous experiences and our energetic impregnates the mother’s egg in order to attract the spermatozoid with a load of DNA compliant with our current state. (Energy attracting energy)

Hmmmm, I'm wondering just how much, if any, of our previous life's personality does go into a newborn baby. I do believe that all previous personalities are in the unconscious of the newborn but that our current personality (ego) comes from our current life and how we were brought up.  Just my 2 cents worth.

Love, Mairlyn ;-)

wrote on Aug 30^th, 2005 at 10:39am:

I do believe that all previous personalities are in the unconscious of the newborn but that our current personality (ego) comes from our current life and how we were brought up. Love, Mairlyn ;-)

I agree with you. But for sure that all that unconscious knowledge will have some do do with the way we see things.

I pretty much align with what you say Kardec, I would change a few words here and there, like the word intoxicated, I would just substitute for habituated, as when we get involved in a belief system it can be like a habit hard to break.

the conscious and the unconscious mind I see as needing to be in alignment so that all the info is available; thus the reason for hemisync to aid the process of self realization, although the journey can be done without hemisync..it is an aid.

observing myself I have what I call guides around me,but yet these others could be parts of myself expressing. I will be seen as nuts...but I have these others who have talked to me:
1) southern belle
2) somebody who was Irish and uses the brogue
3) my favorite is dead preacher, he was english
4) a Japanese vibration with organization skills
5) a scientific logical guy
6) future self of female polarity (already there)
7) a few comedians to round things out.
8) a musical self which had been my former intention to express here & which a friend had to retrieve for me.
these guides I call them could be seen as the entire personality composite for the sake of simplicity if you cannot perceive them as having been actual lives, actual people. so far as I can tell; the work of art you produce in life, your legacy you leave behind, is your own self and the way you lived your life and your choices therein. there is real work involved in what I say about your own self being a work of art.
thank you again Kardec for your postings here, I am greatly happy to read them. love, alysia

Alysia

Each day more I can understand this stuff. ;D

I used the word "Intoxicated" because I think the effect of such energetic pattern can make one kind of seek.

But "habituated" fits col.

PS: What does "lol" mean?

lol, to mean laughing out loud ;D  laughter is something that happens when your happiness barrel gets too full ;D  it releases the pressure from too much feeling good. but u didn't need to know all that, did u? ;D

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I agree with you. But for sure that all that unconscious knowledge will have some to do with the way we see things.

That's very true and I thought of that after I wrote what I did. Our unconscious personalities will filter through to our consciousness and this is how past life events might come up in dreams or memory. We are really a composite, relatively speaking, of ALL of our past lives. ;-)

With Love, Mairlyn ;-)

Another parameter I would like to bring up.

Suppose your personality has an intrinsic fear of being fat, of being physically lazy and of being unable to move freely.

The person would be born thin, and muscular.
Suppose, at the time of birth, the fashion has gone for people to like more fat, juicy (kinda a chubby) women (I prefer to call them juicy, because I find them voluptuous, but hey, that is only my opinion).

The thin, slender person would then be disliked for his/her appearance which could alter a parameter of his/her self-assurance and create doubt or another aspect of self.

What do you think?

I mean, it is not just what you are that matters when you are born. Your environment at birth and education also directs you in one way or another to develop opinions of yourself and others.

So, you are a part of the physical world/environment in which your opinion and choices are not necessarily confirmed/followed/agreed by others.

Any doubt affects the parameters of your inner-situation.

Just a thought, that there is more to physical life than ourselves.

With love,

Traveller

Traveller,

Let me use your words to show my point. According to my last statement -  …

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”…Suppose your personality has an intrinsic fear of being fat, of being physically lazy and of being unable to move freely…”
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Just in a case like that it would be a typical situation where our selves or the ones who take care of us would interfere to give us a more appropriated experience.

In the case you mentioned it would be a good choice to that person be born FAT/SLIM (anyway on the contrary of the fasion) because while going through such experience she/he would have a real chance to realize that it doesn’t matter the shape you have. Your thoughts and feelings are the real matter. When the “System” detects fear it usually act in order to try to destroy such feeling and to accomplish such mission the “System” will certain times drive us through some very challenging experiences.

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…”it is not just what you are that matters when you are born. Your environment at birth and education also directs you in one way or another to develop opinions of yourself and others...”
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Exactly our environment at birth and education and several others issues will be part o the process on realizing that (once reincarnated) unconscious fear can be won.

How about?

Kardec,

I don't know.

I mean, if one person is born in an environment where appearance is generally accepted, that person has probably more chances to grow to become somebodt who accepts his/her appearance.

But if that same person, would be born in an environment whose appearance is not accepted, that person might grow to become somebody who does not accept his/her-self and this might lead to an attitude of plastic-surgery, overly done make-up, and so one.

So, this does change something, but the person will not necessarily learn to be happy or loving in that situation.

If every situation would lead to people learning the lesson they ought, there would be no war or suicide.

This means that environment plays also a role in evolution of the state of mind.

How about that?

With Love,

Blue-Shine

Traveller,

I understand your point.

There are several different levels of maturity to our “soul”. We were born in planet that can give us the sort of experiences we need. In general the current evolutionary status of the human being is that one where are instill the EXTERNAL factors which determines our inner state. (the way we feel) But the main goal is to be in peace and in balance and ever connected to our higher Self giving love and helping the others no matter the EXTERNAL factors. While slave of the EXTERNAL factors we’ll be lead to WAR and SUICIDE and so on. Due this not ever a totally acceptance of our limitations (by the others) would be the best way to stir an inner-change in order to lead us to a better spiritual shape. That person needs to accept Him/Herself dispite the others opinion.

Of course always it’s possible to one be born in a wonderful environment and still grow thank God. But unfortunately some times challenges are necessary to make the best of us come out.

Hi Kardec-

I feel a great urge to argue that ultimately we do make conscious choices, and that it is only that the method is often obscure.

Strange that I would feel such an urge to respond. I wonder why I feel that way?

dave

Dave,

When you said,"...ultimately we do make conscious choices, and that it is only that the method is often obscure."

Did you possibly mean that we do make conscious choices before arriving here and that is only our original purpose that is often obscure (forgotten)? If so, I totally agree if not, I don't understand what you mean by method, or maybe this is "vehicle" or body that is obsure.

Could you clarify? Thanks, Jean :-*

Hi Jean-
When I decide to got o work, I also include a host of incidental decisions, like breathing, operating my vehicle safely etc. I also make the implicit decision to handle people appropriately, to work for their best interests etc. This might not be obvious, but it's all hooked on.

When I see something unpleasant happening to others and decide to become angry, I have made a decision. When I refuse to become angry, but instead decide to be joyful and loving in the present moment, even though I feel compassion for others and would prefer that they would have a better life, I am also making a decision. These attitudes define my life later on.

In the more extreme case, when I steal from someone and then die, I have made a decision to alter my future by the karmic tendencies that will arise to force payback.

The only level I can find in myself that seems to not be directly due to my own choices seems to be the initial projection of my nature from its ultimate Source as a living being. After that, as far as I can tell, I'm just steering a self-conscious vehicle through experiences and choices. The advantage of this perspective is that I can be at cause, rather than at effect, and I have agency over my circumstances.

dave

been thinking about this thread a few...anyhoo, I asked myself these questions while writing my book; after all, I don't believe in professing myself to be a victim. I'm an ACIM student. it's not allowed ;D
also I read Destiny of Souls and resonated there. apparently, as we go along here, it's true, our choices we made, we dont remember. we don't remember because of the veil of forgetting placed on the re-intering consciousness. we always were you know, it's not like we're a brand new soul each life, just a brand new personality composite each life. but once we do remember, we can only remember by looking at the entire life up to this present moment. we can see the pattern then, the common thread that runs through the entire item.
words can only go so far. ask a writer that and they will cry on your shoulder about that. http://images.bravenet.com/common/images/smilies/banghead.gif considering conscious and unconscious, the 2 halves of the brain to <symbolize> this idea, our mission is to unit conscious with subcon. while we're doing that, it's good to talk. http://images.bravenet.com/common/images/smilies/bigeye.gif

Alysia- you've got a fantastic collection of those icon things. Wouldn't that guy with the flapping arms be able to fly the head banger over the wall?
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the guy with the flapping arms Dave? can't remember that one. maybe I can position the eyeball under mr head bang and see what happens...

do u want me to send you mr head bang? just say so and I'll send you them. http://images.bravenet.com/common/images/smilies/bigjumping.gif

u mean this guy? thats a girl.