Evidently, like all of us, even a forum has to go into the "afterlife"

there's gotta be a message in here somewhere for all of us

d

... hahaha... I allmost went to afterlife laughing...! what a hell happened?... :D

>>Evidently, like all of us, even a forum has to go into the "afterlife" <<
...and coming back...
btw, spooky2=spooky
bye, spooky

omygod...I finally got back in. password problems.

you lucky people. u thought I was dead huh? ::)

all right, we be rocking soon! love, alysia

Well... apparently I'm still alive and kickin'... or at least I didn't have to re-register.  I imagine Bruce has backups of files... however... restoring everything is quite a job.  

Good to see that we can post again!

Love, Kathy :-)

What has happened to all the recent postings? I cannot see them in the Archived postings. Have they all just vanished into the ether?

roger  ???

I finally got back in too but not with my regular login, had to change it. Oh well, change is good. ;-)

Love, Mairlyn

  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/mairlynmaitreya/rose.gif

Yes, change is good.  Love this new persona, Mairlyn.

love, blink

a rose is arose

and pretty too

couldn't resist the pun - Marilyn

d

I have a Yabb message board also, it take only a minute to back it up, oh well live and learn. ;)

Despite my countless posts, I have never transcended the status of "Senior Member."  I always secretly envied the lofty status of Alysia and Marilyn as "Super Members", i.e. veritable five-star generals.   ::)  For some perverse reason it amuses me that both gals are now "lowly" newbies again.  Perhaps they should be subjected to some freshmen hazing!   ;D

Berserk

wrote on Aug 17^th, 2005 at 9:51pm:

Despite my countless posts, I have never transcended the status of "Senior Member."  I always secretly envied the lofty status of Alysia and Marilyn as "Super Members", i.e. veritable five-star generals.   ::)  For some perverse reason it amuses me that both gals are now "lowly" newbies again.  Perhaps they should be subjected to some freshmen hazing!   ;D Berserk

;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

Hi, Mair and Alysia!

Maybe now that the board has been restored (somewhat) you can successfully login with your original usernames?  Worth another try!

It is good to see this board back up... :)

Love, Sydnei

Okay Donald, well isn't envy a 'sin?'  Well, maybe now you'll lead the pack.   :o  LOL

With Love, Mairlyn ;-)

Well, evidently my login is still valid.  At first I thought Bruce had brought back "pruning day" and did some serious pruning until I read this thread.  Maybe we'll get back some of the posts that disappeared.

Love and light,

Jeff

Weird..I was never not logged in when I came here..but, even though it said "Hey, Shirley, you have 11 messages.." I still didn't show up on the users list.. ???

But..I'm automatically logged when I come here, which is a good thing because I don't remember my password.. ;D

I was also automatically logged on, I guess because of cookies, and don't know why I can't get back on with my old 'persona.' LOL  And I had 5 messages I was saving, now seemly gone forever.  ;D

Love, Mairlyn

I was not logged in anymore and my old password failed. as well I have 3 user names..arg...in recent months I've changed internet providers. I now have 3 email accounts but basically use yahoo. I would ask that my password be sent to me but it wouldn't show up in yahoo. I finally went to my new providers email account  and there the new password had been sent.
so if anyone can't post here and they've gotten a new internet provider you might have your password sent there even if u don't use the account.

love, alysia

wrote on Aug 17^th, 2005 at 9:51pm:

Despite my countless posts, I have never transcended the status of "Senior Member."  I always secretly envied the lofty status of Alysia and Marilyn as "Super Members", i.e. veritable five-star generals.   ::)  For some perverse reason it amuses me that both gals are now "lowly" newbies again.  Perhaps they should be subjected to some freshmen hazing!   ;D Berserk

ha ha! very funny Don. I think you shall be Super member by the time you get to 250 posts and u only have 187 so start rockin! just make a lot of short posts instead of page long ones...just ribbin' you back!
;D  ps. I plan on reading Swedonborg. he was really ahead of his times don't u think?

love, alysia

Alysia, just a suggestion.  I'd begin by reading Wilson Van Dusen's book "The Presence of Other Worlds." It places Swedenborg's life and teachings in the context of modern psychological analysis.

Don

I hear u saying it was helpful to read Van Dusen as well. but I want it from the horses mouth so to speak, as to me, Van Dusen is just his interpretation on top of Swedenborgs interpretation of his journies. stilted formal convoluted language is my speciality. I can really get into that if I have the time. which I assume is what Swedonborg is.
cheers, alysia

Yippie!!!I still work!!!! Glad to be back home again!! ;D

glad you're back MD! http://images.bravenet.com/common/images/smilies/surprise.gif

Hi Alysia aka laffingrain aka ?

I was at a presentation last month where Dick Sutphen was talking about the high probability that we all have multiple manifestations of the same persona via multiple embodiments.  His idea was rather like playing seen games of chess at one time, but just one player ultimately.  Evidently this phenomenon has migrated to our everyday world!

d

hi Dave. this name was given to me in focus 10 long time ago. I told my guides sounds like an indian name and I don't want to be a new ager! ha ha! I ended up using it anyway on this book I will be publishing as soon as I'm done, as an author name. it's because my guides always make me laugh!
yes many dimensional selves floating around out there; now, if I could only get my act together!
love, alysia

Forgive me for the remark, Alysia, but I suspect that you have it together. (This is also what I tell about half of my patients.) The problem is whether we like it the way we've designed it.  ;-)

That, however, is one of the virtues of having more than a single "self" at one time.

On that thought, some years ago I went into a deep and weighty (ugh!) meditation and prayed to my future-self-as-God (assuming that I'd get there to accomplish this evolution) to give me information about my future to enlighten my path etc.  (Lots of etc)  Much to my amazement, I actually got a response. Now I'd call the same thing my "Higher Self", knowing a bit more about reality.

Anyhow, there's some experiential basis for accepting that you are far more than you might be inclined to have thought.

enjoy - d

uhg! dave, you said the nasty word meditation! ;D ha ha! here a poem, sort of, I wrote:

hours sat I, but there was no pie, not even in the sky, I felt I should have pie, but alas, there simply was no pie; still, I did sit, yes, for maybe there would show up some pie? and on and endlessly sat I for pie...

hee. u can see where that's going right?

my first slice of pie was from reading Monroe, just a nibble really, but, everyone here should admit that he established a bonafide school of thought. TMI. and don't know if anyone knows this either, that this here place is like an outreach school from that. I once saw a bunch of spirits observing the forum...making comments on each poster...lol. they came to me and said oh look at what that one is doing! wasn't sure I wanted to know! hee. but being the eavesdropper that I am I listened and they said I was afraid to come out of hiding!
well, if you mix psychology with spiritual type concepts which I cannot separate really, you understand right away, higher self is always in there, helping us expand into these greater selves, future selves that we already are on some level. I appreciate the science aspects you bring to us even if I do a bit of stretch there. it's all good. one response from higher self is two in the hole. did I say that right?
about being like a counselor type person; like you and Jean are...been thinking a bit here lately about what Ernest Holmes said; founder of Religious Science. the guy has absolutely no emotions btw. (thought I'd throw that in ;) ahem. ah, he said The true teacher sets free his student.
I think I've been trying all my life to set others free while trying to free myself from what doesn't feel good. oh course my success or failure in this could be argued for centuries... ;D thankfully, I have eternity to argue the point ::)

well, y'all have a day now. like my mom who thinks she's smarter than me said "you take the good with the bad." it's the only philosophy I could get her to share with me, however, it sort of gave me some clarity with the relationship.

love and light and enjoy. alysia http://images.bravenet.com/common/images/smilies/glassespush.gif

Hi there,
just a little word about "future self". I was curious what would happen if I tried to make contact with the me in future time, so I tried it in meditation (yes! the TMI way), and a picture appeared with a man who was obviously me but with bald head and wearing the clothes of a buddhist monk. Because I have some sympathy for buddhism I thought: "No, that's fantasy, go away, I want a new picture." But it didn't went away, the monch-me was sitting there, grinning persisting...
I want to say there is something going on when you are focusing on the future self,
bye, spooky

Hi Alysia - forgive a bit of doggerel-

YOU sat for a pie,
For a pie in the sky,
Waiting, perhaps, to be seen by the Eye in the Sky.
Yet all along there was the I,
The inner EYE of the I.
EYE: know YOU.

All this spiritual stuff of which you are aware is, de facto, the meditation, its path to enlightenment, and the fruits thereof.  Sitting too long always gave me a pain. The point of meditation is that the mind sits in place, on topic, with open awareness, joy and love. The purpose of an aching backside seems to be the natural reminder of this fact.

As a therapist, my actual task is to kindly drive patients away.

Spooky - You might ask that grinning buddha to convince you that there's more going on than meets your prior expectations. For example, to bring a new and overwhelming realization into your life.

The Buddhist approach begins with the rejection of a material God and an eternally unchanging soul, replacing them with Mind, much as the esoteric Vedantist views reality as the dreams of an ineffable non-material Brahman.  So it seems that we are always talking to ourselves in some form, nor can we avoid talking to ourselves in some form. From a purely cold blooded means-vs-ends perspective, that suggests that love is of the highest value.  Else, we are internally at war. Or is that too politically incorrect for the present day?

d

Alysia,

I know that I probably repeating myself, as old people sometimes do, but when you said that you couldn’t relate to meditation but you could to Monroe, Moen, and other methods, that’s how it was for me.  For years, I’ve felt guilty for not being able to meditate, as many on this board do about not have “real” OBE’s.  But now my thinking goes, that I may be really meditating when I focus on three deep relaxing breath or practicing PUL using me three sons and love the quick results and without the discipline and price of TM.  I do think now that I’m really glad that I didn’t go the traditional route of learning TM but instead “accidentally” feel into Monroe/Moen, although, when it was first introduced to me, I was very suspicious.  Different strokes for different folks.  The repeating part concerns my experience with Silva Mind control where I quickly went into a deep meditation but it was followed the next day by my first and only migraine.  Needless to say, I was not anxious to continue with meditation and I was glad I found another route to it.  

Spooky 2,

My husband’s favorite book on past lives is Jenny Cockell’s (Yesterday’s Children) tale of when she was a mother in Ireland and died leaving many young children behind. She sought out her children in her current lifetime to see if they were ok.  It was a pretty interesting story, especially when she met up with her oldest son and he recognized her.  I saw it recently on a made for TV movie by another name, but they had changed her into an American.  But more relevant to your post, is her view of one or two of her future lives.  Interesting but I still like Monroe’s future life glimpse better because I felt happier and more hopeful-uplifted when I read them.

Love to all, Glad to meet again after the Belief System Crash that this board will always be here :o ??? :P.  Jean :-*

Hi Dave,
yes, I will do what you suggest, for sure! And what you said about Buddhism- I really feel sympathy for it. So, that love is the aim seems to be quite logical, if it's political correct you may test it, holding up your sign with "love is the answer" and marching back and forth in front of the White House and see what happens:-) .
Hi jkeyes,
sounds interesting. Well, I had a look at one of my past lifes (or it seems so): I left my wife and four children cause I chose suicide instead of love... Now, Monroe, you mean where he jumped into a bird, a fish, a leaf (or sth like that)? Yeah, it's cool. It's just fun, after work is done, so to say.

Thanks, bye spooky

Spooky 2-I’ll always remember you a Spooky-I admire your explorations and live for you posts!

With Monroe, I meant the tales where he was in a future life and the earth was restored to its pristine condition and the humans in his group were living under ground so as not to disturb the surface level environment and he was prevented from seeing his future self and the other future/past life which he visited with INSPECT and the individuals, a male and a female who looked about 30 years old with mid length hair, (It was inferred that the rest of the group appeared as 30 with mid length hair also and of both/neither sex and very excited about the adventure ahead for they had been waiting a long time) had the female manifested the miniature corn, Monroe’s favorite vegetable that he did not mention to her, in her hand and fed it to one of the loving little creatures that would be left when his cluster group departed when signaled.  He explained that he met this group as they were preparing to leave, together to meet with their scout. Whew-long sentence. Anyhow, you can check these tales out in UJ plus the fact that none of the exchanges were spoken aloud. I wonder how many of us are part of Monroe’s explorer group and how many are part of another variation explorer group.  Interesting question to ask when traveling around on the other levels to ask of your guides/teachers.  And remember that these concepts do not fit using linear physical modes of thinking.

But anyhow, these were the tales I was remembering but have not gone back to the book to see if I have repeated them accurately.

Love and admiration, Jean :-*

Without going to my copy of Ultimate Journey, I remember it as you told it. RAM's books are always worth re-reading. ;-)

Love, Mairtreya

I'm a little surprised your kids read your posts Jean ;D but I can totally relate as it happened to me also to enhance my relationship with my kids. I know we are with our kids even when we are sleeping. I'll get to the other subject in a minute. ;) One of my twins, Dana used to hitchhike with me when I went out. I always felt this little light with me, familiar and just observing within my dreams and obes. it's another way of saying kids just learn by being around the parent, they pick something up within spirit. in C1 I spoke with her what I could but it would tend to overwhelm her sensitivities and stretch her too much so I didn't want to be just the crazy mom to her. lol. Dana has read my posts here on occassion over the years and remarked to me smiling, gee mom, all those people are just like you! hee hee. I didn't think I could be closer to my kids than we already are, but it happened this year, that I made a CD through a friend. something about technology got to them and made them feel proud of me, in a way that all those karoke parties and closet singing times could not do. now I hear those 3 magic words I love you, at least once a week on the phone. ha ha! it makes u feel like if u die tomorrow, at least you were a good parent in the end, as you could never be sure of that. ;D it's a treasure you can take with you when you go. their love. love and light http://images.bravenet.com/common/images/smilies/typing.gif

Picket Bush? Interesting idea Spooky, but the food in jail is rarely up to my standards, so I'll pass.

It isn't that the Government people can't read "Love is the way". The problem is that they don't understand it.

When a group of people share a workload, the task is done faster, more easily, and more efficiently. When elected to the Chair of the American Philosophical Society, Gailbraith called this the "cooperator's surplus". Henry Ford called it the benefit of large scale mass production, but it's the same underlying concept.

The alternative can be seen in the millennia of friction between Jews and Christians, Christians, Jews and Muslims, and now Muslims versus Muslims. Somehow I doubt that this is exactly what the founders of these faiths intended. (There are some social scientists that predict that Islam will self destruct due to internal hostility, but I personally doubt it.)

In the 1960-1970 era there were events called "love ins", that unforutnately twended to focus on physical manifestations, as opposed to the spiritual side of loving. But I wonder what kind of result we could create if we collectively "loved", with intensity, all those who seem to be so lost in lovelessness, and so mired in materialism. Prayer has been proven to be effricacious, even when it was blindly directed. I wonder about highly intensive and well-directed love.

And for Bruce, all the rest of you, some intense, but non-specific love and appreciation.

d

Hi jkeyes,
nice to hear you like my posts! Yes, spooky = spooky2, they won't let old spooky in here anymore. I just re-read Monroe (UJ Chapter 3) and it is really beautiful. It's what we all wish I think. Monroe thought it was the future, but was told it was nearly a million years in the past. But between the lines it's clear to see that those people knew too much to be only past-time-citizens. Fascinating. Remember my story about the wizards in ancient Europe? As I said elsewhere, I want to believe! I asked myself how it comes that I'm so impressed of Tolkien's tales. Is it more than just a delightful fairy tale? A remembrance of experiences I had a long time ago in a similar environment with all that magic?
Wondering...


Hi dave,
yes, simply not-understanding is a good point. You can talk as logical as you want, there's always people who don't understand. People are so different from each other, but in other respect so equal. Well, that's just what it is. And the prayer thing...I really have no idea if it works, and if yes how it would work.
still wondering.

Hi Alysia,
>>gee mom, all those people are just like you!<< ha ha, nice kid.

bye you love seekers&givers, spooky

              I have been posting since 1996 on this board and I have the status of being a "Newbie" LOL,,,,,love linn