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Message started by Kyo on Aug 14th, 2005 at 12:31am

Title: Oakland Lynch Mob video
Post by Kyo on Aug 14th, 2005 at 12:31am
(Warning - note that this includes a link to a lynching video clip)


As posted previously on "Disturbing video? or disturbing comments?", the most helpful, englightened view to take (of any event or issue) is that of compassion, love and assistantiality (whenever possible), without the negative emotions of fear, anger or hatred.

Most importantly, it always goes back to SELF-RESPONSIBILITY (which is what Hilarion and Byron Katie's advice is ultimately all about).

So viewing this video, ask yourself, what does it mean to you, and what can *you* do about it?

For instance, if an event of similar nature occurs in the future, what would you do? Would you allow yourself, to be (in any way) as the lynch mob here, overtaken and (quite literally) possessed by darkness? (by their own choosing).

And would you sit by and do nothing, knowing the situation might be building up to occur? What would you do? That's the whole point, the lesson, that you can gain from. And please do, because no one, should ever need to suffer as she did.


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This video, apparently an excerpt from a documentary or news report, features a lynch mob in Oakland California, terrorizing and victimizing a woman they imagined (accurately or otherwise, is besides the point) to be a snitch, reporting members of their community involved in illegal activities, to the local police authorities.

The video does not state the fate of the woman...


Click HERE to view the video.


Title: Re: Oakland Lynch Mob video
Post by recoverer on Aug 26th, 2005 at 2:31pm
Thank goodness my experiences have been indicating that everything goes back to love eventually. I want every being in the Universe to eventually become completely happy. Where does this desire come from? Perhaps from the intelligence who created this Universe.

Eventually? What is time?

Title: Re: Oakland Lynch Mob video
Post by recoverer on Aug 26th, 2005 at 2:33pm
P.S.

Thank goodness that woman isn't a body. It would break my heart if she were.

Title: Re: Oakland Lynch Mob video
Post by ardallan on Aug 26th, 2005 at 6:33pm
Hi Kyo,

If you been there ,what would you do?


Ardallan


Title: Oakland Lynch Mob video
Post by Kyo_Kusanagi on Aug 26th, 2005 at 7:15pm

Quote:
Hi Kyo, If you been there ,what would you do? Ardallan


Hi Ardallan,

I would do whatever I felt would be helpful. As I'm wasn't actually present, it is a futile attempt to make presumptions about the situation, and to declare "I would have done this or that", because the fact is being actually present and having a close up of the situation, you might realize "this or that" might not have been possible or might not work.


In situations such as the one described in the video, it is rather obvious then, that the most helpful thing to do (as far as anyone can tell from just the video alone), would be to preserve the woman's life, without further damage to anyone else's life, as far as possible.

The first thing that anyone could do, once you were made aware of the situation (ie. at the beginning when the lynch mob surrounded the car), would be to contact the local authorities. This would be the most helpful thing to do, as the local authorities are the ones who are equipped to handle such a situation (with their riot police trained to resolve dissidence without killing them if possible).

That is to say, it is inappropriate to desire the use of excessive violence against the lynch mob, which would cause more loss to life and limb. That is, killing them to safe the woman, would be counterproductive to the goal of minimizing violence and damage.

Turning 'evil' to fight 'evil', does now work. (It may seem to work in action, but one is self-defeated in principle).

In addition, you have to consider the number of able-bodied intraphysicals on your side at the time, if attempting a 'direct rescue'. If you are alone, attempting a direct intervention would be ineffective, they would kill you, then kill her anyway. With sufficient numbers, more possibilities (with minimal violence as possible), may be present.

Other possibilities which one might consider; while awaiting for the authorities to arrive, if there might be a way to distract or scatter the lynch mob sufficiently to deliver the woman to safety, etc.

However, as we said earlier, all this is quite futile conjecture, as unless you're actually present, "talk is cheap". None of the ideas here might work, or they might. Only the persons who were actually there, will have the (compulsory) opportunities to make such decisions, particularly the basic one, "To be overcome by FEAR, or to mantain LOVE and assistantiality in any way appropriate", even if (due to circumstances) it is nothing further than simply informing the local authorities *as soon as possible*.

The pertinent question for you to ask *yourself* (not for me to ask you), is what would *you* do? (both in terms of your intentions, and your subsequent actions in line with these intentions).

"What Would Jesus Do?" or "What Would Hilarion Do?", etc, is indeed a very useful technique to gain additional insights and suggestions into the most appropriate helpful intentions and behaviour in any given situation.

However, that does not mean everyone will receive the same answers or suggestions, two different people might perceive a different approach when they ask themselves this question. In addition, unless you are able to walk on water, bilocate/teleport, or manipulate physical matter without batting an eyelid, you would also have to tailor your appropriate actions accordingly to the situation.

The most basic, primordial, fundamental *decision* however, remains the same in all such situations. To choose FEAR (False Evidence Appearing as Real) or to choose LOVE (Assistantiality & CosmoEthics).


All of us, will have many opportunites, throughout our series of incarnations here on Earth (Earth is a particularly suitable planet in regards to such opportunities; it is known throughout the galaxies by many names, among them "Planet of Sorrows"), to be faced with this decision over and over again, until the soul has firmly made the decision that is true to its chosen nature.

So the next time you're faced with a similar, urgent circumstance, make the decision carefully. Not out of FEAR (even the fear of being labeled a 'coward', even if by only yourself!), but (once you understand FEAR = False Evidence Appearing as Real) choose LOVE, and then to the best of your intelligence and capacity (as circumstances permit), act accordingly to the highest cosmoethics that you can percieve and work with at the time.

Remember, it doesn't mean you have to be a 'solo hero' (in most cases that is not effective and you just get yourself killed), rather, it means that you just have to take the most appropriate decision, as far as you can tell, that will help the most number of people, in the most effective way, in any given situation. In most cases, this will involve getting the help of others.

Always work as a team, both with others in the intraphysical, as well as with others in the extraphysical.

Be as a minicog within a multidimensional, interconsciential, interpersonal, assistantial maximechanism, working colleagially with the guides, helpers and all other beings of higher vibration, in service of the greatest CosmoEthics, in service of Love.

Title: Re: Oakland Lynch Mob video
Post by Brendan on Aug 27th, 2005 at 2:31am
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Turning 'evil' to fight 'evil', does now work. (It may seem to work in action, but one is self-defeated in principle).

In addition, you have to consider the number of ***able-bodied intraphysicals****( B-man's comment: HUH???) on your side at the time, if attempting a 'direct rescue'. If you are alone, attempting a direct intervention would be ineffective, they would kill you, then kill her anyway. With sufficient numbers, more possibilities (with minimal violence as possible), may be present.

Other possibilities which one might consider; while awaiting for the authorities to arrive, if there might be a way to distract or scatter the lynch mob sufficiently to deliver the woman to safety, etc.

However, as we said earlier, all this is quite futile conjecture, as unless you're actually present, "talk is cheap". None of the ideas here might work, or they might. Only the persons who were actually there, will have the (compulsory) opportunities to make such decisions, particularly the basic one, "To be overcome by FEAR, or to mantain LOVE and assistantiality in any way appropriate", even if (due to circumstances) it is nothing further than simply informing the local authorities *as soon as possible*.

Remember, it doesn't mean you have to be a 'solo hero' (in most cases that is not effective and you just get yourself killed), rather, it means that you just have to take the most appropriate decision, as far as you can tell, that will help the most number of people, in the most effective way, in any given situation. In most cases, this will involve getting the help of others.
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According to Laws of Logic:
Of course, if it was a lynch mob, and the terrain was right, you could approach to within about 100 yards, say, with a semi-automatic rifle equipped with a high-capacity clip (say 30 rounds) and several spares.
Provided he had good cover (you can count on some of the goons in the mob being armed) ONE MAN COULD make them forget about lynching their victim VERY quickly, and stand a good chance of coming out alive and well...
IT WOULDN'T TAKE A SUPERHERO, FOLKS. IT  WOULD TAKE BEING PREPARED, AND A (little!) BALLS!
(As far as being prepared goes, I would like to see a law requiring ALL (proven responsible!) adults to carry a weapon... it's a proven fact that crime rates drop in areas where concealed carry is permitted. Watch the thugs start to THINK for a change..!)
Not to mention, COWARDS tend to run in mobs, and make up the bigger part of them (ever noticed how "nice" these guys typically are when you meet them ALONE?), it is a good bet you might not even get a single shot fired back at you, as a stampede (and major-league chaos and confusion!) ensued.
Maybe we should stop trying to take modern firearms (like assault rifles!) away from honest citizens? That would make the "number of able-bodied intraphysicals on your side" a little less crucial, IMHO!!!

B-man

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