I can do Astral Projections,  so I know for sure there are after life for humans,

Asrtal Projections mean: I have the abilities to have my soul leave my human body, and travel to other levels of universe.

So, I know there are afterlives for humans.

I am here to share experiences.

If anyone care to know what is it like over there.  We can share our views.
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Hello and welcome, Sapphire!

Please do share some of your experiences.  Let's get this thread rolling!   :)

Vicky

hey there Saphire. I'm all ears. I'm a hog for your stories. you are most welcome. sincerely, alysia

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Welcome Sapphire. We'd love to hear of your experiences. ;-)

Love, Marilyn ;-)

I am deeply touched by all these welcome.

Yes, I would share my experiences.  But I must tell you it is very strange and not offen accepted by human beings.

Because my knowlege came from when I am out of my human body and actully went to the space.

And because I have this special ability and make me able to travel or visist many levels of the universe.

The reason I would share my experience is too many human are not sure about death or where they came from.

Let me start from the "Death"

There is really nothing to be afraid of "Death", because when your soul leave your body for whatever the reason is "Painless."  I am able get my soul to leave my human body as wish, so I know.  And I have friends are able to do this, they told me the same thing,  it is "Painless" to leave your human body.

You feel pain is when you still have physical body, the human body feels pain.

When you are out of human body, most people are wandering around because they do not know where to go, because they were never told about afterlife. Except, those wonderful books on this site.

Death has differences, most humans do not understand that there are scheduled deaths that you die on schedule (this could be figured out from your date of birth.  It is like a social security system in the after world.) and unscheduled deaths.

When you reach scheduled death which means the angel of death will come for you or sometimes the Nuns from the Heaven come for you and while you are still wondering what to do or where to go.  They will guide you and escort you to wherever you should go.  (I know this, because I watched how they work a couple times.)

But most humans are escorted to an underworld where they will be judged.   They will be judged about what they did while they were alive.   I can write details in the future.

And they will be sent to wherever they should go like "Heaven", "Hell", "and "Purgatory." and other worlds, there are many of them, I can not finish just one chapter.

I will be back for more postings.

 

 

Hello, Sapphire.....welcome to Afterlife Knowledge! I am really new here too....and the welcoming here is great! People here are really friendly and accepting......lol.....even with some of the stuff that I have posted here!!! Some things I have posted here, I have never dared tell anyone b/c I thought people would put me in a crazy place!!! But phew!!!! Not so here!!
I am really interested in what you will be posting here. I read a book acouple years ago. The original author wrote about a series of dreams that she had.....these dreams in series were detailed accounts of a visit to Heaven, thru her dreams. It was an awesome story.....a true account. I can't remember the title of the book..I think it is called: I Had A Dream.....but, I am really unorganized right now with moving and things are STILL in boxes!!
I found this posting that you wrote today really interesting...and it seems to follow along with what the Bible says......and so I have a question for you: Where did people come up with the Bible??I mean, I know that prophets wrote it....but how does the Bible actually fit into what you are saying? Do you know what I mean? Are ythey all aware of the Bible over there on the other side? Why does the Bible make such a big deal out of questioning the afterlife and all?? I don't understand why the afterlife is supposed to be such a big secret until we get there....and why we are supposed to be doomed to hell for pursuing information on it. At least that is what many religions tell us. There is the same God where you are talking about, right? The same God as in the Bible?? Man, there is so much that I find confusing in all this stuff...are we only guilty if we feel inside that we are guilty (for pursuing knowledge)....or are we actually guilty according to the Bible and are only preparing ourselves for our wrath when we leave this life?
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Hello, Sapphire.....welcome to Afterlife Knowledge! I am really new here too....and the welcoming here is great! People here are really friendly and accepting......lol.....even with some of the stuff that I have posted here!!! Some things I have posted here, I have never dared tell anyone b/c I thought people would put me in a crazy place!!! But phew!!!! Not so here!!
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 I feel the same.  :)
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I am really interested in what you will be posting here. I read a book acouple years ago. The original author wrote about a series of dreams that she had.....these dreams in series were detailed accounts of a visit to Heaven, thru her dreams. It was an awesome story.....a true account.
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I will telll you a secret.  When human are having dreams, they are not aware that their souls actully went over there, this is one form of OBE that is in the dreams, but not a actual Asrtal Projection.     About this Author, she actually went to Heaven and unaware of.   So, her stories are real.    
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I can't remember the title of the book..I think it is called: I Had A Dream.....but, I am really unorganized right now with moving and things are STILL in boxes!!
I found this posting that you wrote today really interesting...and it seems to follow along with what the Bible says......and so I have a question for you: Where did people come up with the Bible??I mean, I know that prophets wrote it....but how does the Bible actually fit into what you are saying? Do you know what I mean?
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Bible is real, I did not fully believe when I was a young child, because how many people actully see the God?(  I saw them all the times, just did not know they were the gods.) Even with my naked eyes when I was a kid I could see them.

Then when I was able to Astral Projections, then I was able to personally see them and still able to see them now.  Jesus, Mary and the Saints, they are all real. ( I am a Catholic, by the way.)

But Bilble stories, did not actully happened on Earth but was on another world where were more Godly atmosphere where those magics can easily performed.  Like what Moses did. You cannot do these magics on earth.   But the memories reamained, and being written into Bible.   But Bible is real.

I have seen magics are able to happen in the kingdom of gods.  
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Are ythey all aware of the Bible over there on the other side? Why does the Bible make such a big deal out of questioning the afterlife and all?? I don't understand why the afterlife is supposed to be such a big secret until we get there....and why we are supposed to be doomed to hell for pursuing information on it.
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Yes, they are aware of Bible over there.   The afterlife become a secret is because the Earth is only place in the universe that are not directly ruled by gods.

And because of this,  Earth is the only place that you are your own master,  you made your own decisions.  But your destiny is predestined, that you cannot choose your parents and children and major events in your life.  And these secrets are hidden on the the date of your birth.

But the purpose is:  God want to know when you are unsupervised what will you do?   Can you finish the task that assigned to you?  Or some cases, life is a gift from God (some human were reincarnated from animals).

Because you run your own life, and some cases are; God want to know when you are independant, can you still perform as you promised with him, or turn into a extreme evil person.   And some cases, humans are here on earth to learn if they can trancend themselves and being a divine person, then they could graduate on earth and move you to Heaven.  Every body may have a different case.   This subject is unlimited.   The bottom line is that you cannot end your own life, you have to finish your task and graduate from earth.

And also, souls do follow souls.   As individual or as a group.   There are many cases, that they just want to follow someone they loved and to be born on earth.  And being able to be "together".    They would give up their god or goddess status just to be someone they love. Or just simplely has job assignments, there are many on earth right now, even some of the gods and goddess.

In short, you need to perform.   And God will see how well you do with your score, when you are not supervised.

If human were told about this, everyone behave then God cannot tell what is the real score that you have.

When you truly believe in Gods and Saints, when you die.  You will see them.   This is real.

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At least that is what many religions tell us. There is the same God where you are talking about, right? The same God as in the Bible?? Man, there is so much that I find confusing in all this stuff...are we only guilty if we feel inside that we are guilty (for pursuing knowledge)....or are we actually guilty according to the Bible and are only preparing ourselves for our wrath when we leave this life?
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There is a King of all gods, the boss.  The one,  The "God".  Yes,  but to many human disbelieves.   He is also the "God" of all religions,  but he cannot be everywhere at the same time, so all religions has a head god that mostly his children for example:  like "Jesus" is leader in Christianity.    

Anyone is welcome to ask me question.

Grin                  

Why would a loving and forgiving God send anyone to hell.Dont you think he would give us more than one chance to be good enough to get into heaven?George

Good question George, but you might ask Merlin   ;)

http://fortunetellermerlin.faithweb.com/


All readings including questions are answered, are for your reference only. Like all fortuneteller and prophets, your Merlin are not responsible for any damage or consequences might happen, if you choose to follow the reading or answers that your Merlin provided. And If you choose to use the reading, answers or guidance, you use them as your own risk.

Your Merlin will be not responsible for any damage or lawsuit might occur with your reading, answers or guidance provided, just like any fortuneteller or prophets in the world. You use it as your own risk

Hi Sapphire- Welcome!

I'm interested in how the "astral worlds" attach to the everyday world of living experience. I know we can get there by meditation and astral projection. I also now that we can use crystal balls etc as aids to focus meditation so that we can contact the "spirit world".

However, I wonder if we could build a machine to communicate with those in spirit so that those of us who don't meditate could use it. The idea is kinda like using a drug to alter the body to create a meditative trance, except a mechanical approach has fewer dangerous side effects.

Another thing that interests me is how it "looks" to you - the way the astral world is put together, how many dimensions it has, and so on. I suspect that this differs for each of us, but I'm interested in what you might say.

dave

wrote on Jun 15^th, 2005 at 3:09pm:

Why would a loving and forgiving God send anyone to hell.Dont you think he would give us more than one chance to be good enough to get into heaven?George

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OK, to go the "Hell" it is not as easy as you think, either.

I am gong to give you some most qualified catorgories:

1. You killed someone or more than one. (Unless you have a god status, then you suffer no Karma.) Karma means what goes around come around and bad deeds.

2. You wrongfully tortured other people intentionally for long period of time.

3. You indangered other humans and set others in great miseries.

4. You make others beccome handicap or lose body parts intentionally.

There are many levels of "Hell" some are mental tortures, like some human beings enjoy "yelling" to others, and when they get here. They will be yelled all the times, just to suffer the equal suffering that they gave others.

And other severe sufferings, too. It depends on what are your cirmes.

Small lies, white lies, small crimes, God do not care. You are human, it is tough to be humans, God understand.

The bottom line is not hurting any one. If you have hurt someone try to make up for it while you still alive.

wrote on Jun 15^th, 2005 at 5:27pm:

Good question George, but you might ask Merlin   ;) http://fortunetellermerlin.faithweb.com/ All readings including questions are answered, are for your reference only. Like all fortuneteller and prophets, your Merlin are not responsible for any damage or consequences might happen, if you choose to follow the reading or answers that your Merlin provided. And If you choose to use the reading, answers or guidance, you use them as your own risk. Your Merlin will be not responsible for any damage or lawsuit might occur with your reading, answers or guidance provided, just like any fortuneteller or prophets in the world. You use it as your own risk

I think I just gave you a free answer,  kidding.

wrote on Jun 15^th, 2005 at 6:09pm:

Hi Sapphire- Welcome! I'm interested in how the "astral worlds" attach to the everyday world of living experience. I know we can get there by meditation and astral projection. I also now that we can use crystal balls etc as aids to focus meditation so that we can contact the "spirit world". --------------------------------------------------- I would not recommend it, the reason is there are many evil demons out there, you might invite the wrong ones.   This is not a good idea, especially some human have weak will power, they could be possessed.   And the spirit world, they need peace.  They do not want you to call them all the time.   Many of them could be not friendly.  It is dangerous actually. Plus, some of them died miserablely, they might not look good.   Well, you get the idea.     --------------------------------------------------- However, I wonder if we could build a machine to communicate with those in spirit so that those of us who don't meditate could use it. The idea is kinda like using a drug to alter the body to create a meditative trance, except a mechanical approach has fewer dangerous side effects. Another thing that interests me is how it "looks" to you - the way the astral world is put together, how many dimensions it has, and so on. I suspect that this differs for each of us, but I'm interested in what you might say. ----------------------------------------------------- I could face them is because my soul is immortal.  Which means nothing can kill me when I am out of body,  so I have seen many beings that you would never wish to see,  so it is bad idea to invite them.   And a lot of time, I was called to tame the evils and Demons,  they are ferocious.   You do not want to near them.   I have skills that is reason I can do it. dave

 

Sapphire: What is your native language ? You are simplifyng things a bit much however, or to quote the kid from Sixth Sense "You see what you want to see". You are a Catholic so you see your mental image of god. Also, OBEs are more physical phenomena vs. a mental / psychic / telepathic phenomena = there may not be a shred of insight into the afterlife from just an OBE. Am I being fair with these qualifications, group ?

let me try to rephrase your question Raj, it's not clear:

it appears you are saying because Saphire states she is Catholic, her interpretation of her obe experiences is bound to be suspect as to whether it can be termed insightful.

or are you saying that ALL obes are suspect and not insightful or of use to communicate to the masses, due to that they are all generated by our particular belief system in place?

yes, it is an unfair question. lol.

we will all see what we want to see, scientist and magician alike. our obes are tailor made for the experiencer in that way; still, we are probably arriving at another question now, about what constitutes authentic experience termed "real or insightful", of use to others for instance to give forth or share, which I think is Saphires intention here.

simplicity is desirable when communicating to the masses; if u get too complicated and intellectual you lose people's interest. Saphire has my interest...here you have a Catholic that goes obe....think about it. Catholic and obe are like total opposite concepts. read between the lines and you find a bright and shining light we have attracted here. not only that, she actually has a sense of humor as well as some afterlife knowledge.

btw, Saphire, I love this expression: Quote:  "Plus, some of them died miserablely, they might not look good.   Well, you get the idea."
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this is a perfect description of certain astral levels, and the ability of spirit to take a form due to what they think they should look like. if a spirit thinks it is ugly, well then, there is demonstration of a self fulfilling prophecy. yes there are some ugly dudes & dudettes out there floating around, but guess what? Saphire has immortality and knows it and is not afraid of ugliness up in your face. she is working her stuff out there, give her some credit. it's darn hard to give yourself away around here.
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wrote on Jun 16^th, 2005 at 10:07pm:

Sapphire: What is your native language ? You are simplifyng things a bit much however, or to quote the kid from Sixth Sense "You see what you want to see". You are a Catholic so you see your mental image of god. Also, OBEs are more physical phenomena vs. a mental / psychic / telepathic phenomena = there may not be a shred of insight into the afterlife from just an OBE. Am I being fair with these qualifications, group ?

(If I want to appear in person, I might as well go to the church, instead of doing posting here.   I have no intention poking other people's privacies.  Certainly I would like to remain mine.)

To be clear, OBE is different from Astral Projections.

OBE is more of an earthly experience, which means a human's soul is able to get out of the body, but only on earthy surroundings.  For example: Your soul is still in your bedroom or you would be able to float around the neighborhood.  Or to a nearby town.

But with "Astral Projections" that you will be able get out further, to be out of space and other galaxies other than human.  This is the difference.

But what I was referring is "Astral Projection".   That my soul is able to get out to the space and very often to kingdom of gods.

It is not “six sense” either.  

There is a link, you can read, this will help you a lot to understand more about Astral Projections:


http://saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=1328

wrote on Jun 17^th, 2005 at 12:36am:

let me try to rephrase your question Raj, it's not clear: it appears you are saying because Saphire states she is Catholic, her interpretation of her obe experiences is bound to be suspect as to whether it can be termed insightful. or are you saying that ALL obes are suspect and not insightful or of use to communicate to the masses, due to that they are all generated by our particular belief system in place? yes, it is an unfair question. lol. we will all see what we want to see, scientist and magician alike. our obes are tailor made for the experiencer in that way; still, we are probably arriving at another question now, about what constitutes authentic experience termed "real or insightful", of use to others for instance to give forth or share, which I think is Saphires intention here. simplicity is desirable when communicating to the masses; if u get too complicated and intellectual you lose people's interest. Saphire has my interest...here you have a Catholic that goes obe....think about it. Catholic and obe are like total opposite concepts. read between the lines and you find a bright and shining light we have attracted here. not only that, she actually has a sense of humor as well as some afterlife knowledge. btw, Saphire, I love this expression: Quote:  "Plus, some of them died miserablely, they might not look good.   Well, you get the idea." _______ this is a perfect description of certain astral levels, and the ability of spirit to take a form due to what they think they should look like. if a spirit thinks it is ugly, well then, there is demonstration of a self fulfilling prophecy. yes there are some ugly dudes & dudettes out there floating around, but guess what? Saphire has immortality and knows it and is not afraid of ugliness up in your face. she is working her stuff out there, give her some credit. it's darn hard to give yourself away around here. http://images.bravenet.com/common/images/smilies/stirthepot.gif

Alysia,

You are very kind to me, thank you.  

I guess to give viewers more understand about Astral Projection,  this is a link also.

I am hesitate to introrduce this link is because I do not think it is really safe about Astral Projections.

I certainly will not recommend to practice this, but it does expain a lot about Astral Projections, but these are not the methods I use.  I have my own.

This will show that some human have the ability to make their soul travel out of space.  I have friends tried these methods, they said none of these worked for them.

But for reader to get an idea is fine.  

http://www.crystalinks.com/astral.html  

We are getting off topics, LOL.   I would answer what I saw in any question you may have and those questions that I have answers.  

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Well, instead of having a view that seems intrusive or attacking, I wished you lived in Houston Texas so i could invite you to dinner and pick your brain...lol.

I have a few questions for you, and I hope you can give me an answer or  a direction from an objective stance, just the way I am approaching asking these questions....

1. I have a profound problem with reincarnation because I like being JG and I love my family, and another part of just being afraid of death because I want proof of something after (which I am getting now), is it necessary? Some of have said yes, some say no, but can we control that and be who we are or were last in spirit and remain there...OR recall everything about this life if requested?

2. Do people in the Afterlife want to communicate back with people in the physical, because we know there is a vice versa, but why cannot the cycle of secrecy just be broken for the sake of creating the ultimate peace, and do they view the things we do...good and bad?

3. What are the everyday activities there? Can you recreate all the things you love here? The Bible tells us the Afterlife is about praising God all day...but can I recreate my love for basketball and music in my heaven?

4. Can you be a God, Goddess, Angel, etc. and not know it?

5. Is there anything written about what life is like when their is no more actual life....since the Earth cannot be here forever, what happens next, and even before that do we ever know all the things that remain mysteries to the World like creation, etc.?

And if these are to detailed or too much to ask, let me know. You don't even have to answer them or give your insight, but I am very glad you posted because I think Astral Projection wll teach me what I need to know to get to the next level along with all the keys here! If you ever need someone to chat about the Afterlife with, PLEASE LET ME KNOW!! Peace.

Oh, and one more question, in your experience what are ghosts and why can they be captured on camera or makes themselvs aware at certain times? Thanks.

Just wondering what techniques to you use sapphire to go astral. I have had many experiences and when i did have them i had no clear cut way that i entered into them, nothing i can say oh if i do that again i will go astral/obe. Just wondered if you had a particular method.

Thanks Ryan

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Well, instead of having a view that seems intrusive or attacking, I wished you lived in Houston Texas so i could invite you to dinner and pick your brain...lol.
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I am glad you ask me questions, because it is not much fun to talk to myself.  LOL.
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I have a few questions for you, and I hope you can give me an answer or  a direction from an objective stance, just the way I am approaching asking these questions....

1. I have a profound problem with reincarnation because I like being JG and I love my family, and another part of just being afraid of death because I want proof of something after (which I am getting now), is it necessary? Some of have said yes, some say no, but can we control that and be who we are or were last in spirit and remain there...OR recall everything about this life if requested?
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It difficult to provide proof for human to understand afterlife, because you cannot see it. And you do not see God.

Some people has the ability to see ghosts since they are in very young age.   When I was a kid, I saw them all the time, I know they are real.  But none of my family was able to see them,  and come to think of it.  I am grateful that my parents, they did not think I was weird, they just think "I am gifted."    

Like some children, they would play with imaginary friends, usually human think they are insane, but I can tell you they are actully seeing some ghosts.  Because children they are not fully grown, so the ability to see ghosts has not yet fully removed or shall I say disappeared.  But when you are able to do OBE or advance Astral Travels, then I do see gods/goddesses and Saints and also Demons, other weird entities.   And able to enter their world, too.

The reason I am fearless is, beause they know who I am and at the very begining I did not know who I was, they could not tell I actully still have a human body on earth, just when I appear there, they just know who I am.   I do not mean to be arrogant, but they will call me by my got title and if I appear in "Heaven."  They would Kneel whenever they see me.    And I am having this ablility for over 15 years.  I am used to everything happening there.  

Every where in the universe they see gods and goddesses, just not earth.   The reason is Earth is like a "Testing ground."  where will show your truth scores.   That is when you are not supervised by gods, what is the real you?

You do not really have a choice to decide your afterlife.  But your afterlife depends on what have you accomplish this human life.   Then, your soul will be sent to all different part of worlds.  Like "Heaven", "Hell" , "Purgatory", and even there is a world for "Athesist."  Or just to be resent back to human and learn again.    

When human meet unscheduled death, which means they die not according to plan, they will become Ghosts.  And the sad part is, when they were human they were not told what to do when becomming a ghost.   So, they linger on earth.    This is part of the reasons, I want to remind human.  When this happened, you need to ask for help from a god to guide you where to go.  

This is the sign, you are out of your human body.  And you float instead of walking like a human, and when you try to communicate the human on the ground, they cannot hear you or seeing you.   It is a very lonely road,  they need to ask for help from the gods.    And this is one of the reasons that I stepped out and willing to talk about afterlife.   I want to help these ghosts to go wherever they should go and give human knowledge that when this happened to you, what should you do.  Don't linger on earth and being miserable, there are other places to go.  

I am able to see them afterlife, too.  They do remember their lives as human, that is why when some people passed away they will see their passed relatives to welcome them.


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2. Do people in the Afterlife want to communicate back with people in the physical, because we know there is a vice versa, but why cannot the cycle of secrecy just be broken for the sake of creating the ultimate peace, and do they view the things we do...good and bad?
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But there is really not much meaning to keep remembering their human lives, because they are already in seperated worlds.

This is a secret that not much human know, if you really miss someone that much, you can do a prayer before bedtime, that you wish to see them again.  They could come to your dream and see you.   But I have to remind you, not all of them are able to do it.  Because they might have to travel a long way to come to your dream, and they might need to get permissions from gods to travel.   But if you really miss them that much ask a god to help you to escort their spirits to see you, again not all wishes would be granted because they are there for reasons,  but God is mercy, God is kind.  He might grant you the wishes.   But if you know for sure they are in Heaven, then they are able to travel easier.  But remember, you are in seperated worlds.  They have the right not to see you, too.    They could started a new life over there already.

The secret cannot be broken is because it gives you a chance to learn and transcend yourself and graduate to better level of worlds.   Besides, you might not want to marry the same person forever, do you?   Maybe you do, but your spouse might not.  A lot of people said, one life is good enough.   Or you still can follow each other life after life, if that is both of your wishes.   Isn't God grand?

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3. What are the everyday activities there? Can you recreate all the things you love here? The Bible tells us the Afterlife is about praising God all day...but can I recreate my love for basketball and music in my heaven?
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Depends on what level of worlds in the universe.   But mostly like humans.   The difference is how long they stay there, what type of entertainment they could get and how beautiful the enviorment could be and their body appearances.    The higher the level, they are more beautiful and less worries.

They do not praising God all day, but they see God easily.  

Yes, there are Baseball in Heaven,  and one part of Heaven looks like America.   But all nice people and who deserved to be in Heaven, not a fault word there.   Beautiufl flowers,  and all clean, no dirts.
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If someday the Earth become unsuitable for human to live.   They God will move them to another planet.  God is able to creat new planet that is no problem.  And there are many dead planets in human galaxy, they are dead because there were beings overly intelligent and destroyed themselves.

This is what I am afraid of too.  Sometimes, I wonder why I was born on earth, am I preparing the afterlife for the Earth?    I have no answer.  

The creation of Universe, the story might bore many people and it is not written clearly.  But I do know the story.

But God did created this universe and it is expandable.  And it could be done, if God choose to.      
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And if these are to detailed or too much to ask, let me know. You don't even have to answer them or give your insight, but I am very glad you posted because I think Astral Projection wll teach me what I need to know to get to the next level along with all the keys here! If you ever need someone to chat about the Afterlife with, PLEASE LET ME KNOW!! Peace.
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You are welocme to ask me questions, if I have the answer I will tell you.

Is there a spell check on this thing? I cannot find it. :D

wrote on Jun 19^th, 2005 at 10:05pm:

Oh, and one more question, in your experience what are ghosts and why can they be captured on camera or makes themselvs aware at certain times? Thanks.

Ghosts are the humans met unschdeduled deaths.

They are still a form of energy but not strong, that is why some of them can be filmed.

When those ghosts are able to make themselves aware, they are more advance ghosts.   Or could be Demons, this subjects varies.

I also would like to emphasize that is very important to have a religion belief.   Because that is where you will go afterlife.   If you qualify their terms.

wrote on Jun 20^th, 2005 at 8:05am:

Just wondering what techniques to you use sapphire to go astral. I have had many experiences and when i did have them i had no clear cut way that i entered into them, nothing i can say oh if i do that again i will go astral/obe. Just wondered if you had a particular method. Thanks Ryan

My techniques are very easy to make it out of space and other part of universe,  but I cannot annouce it on the internet.   All of the books on earth, they will not tell you there are dangers when Astral Projects.  I do not want to be reponsible for lost souls.  

But I am thinking about writting a book about the detailed techniques.  Because if you buy the book and decide use the techniques, you are responsible for your own soul.

I was captured many times in the space,  but I always able to rescue myself and got out.  If I write the book, I will teach you skills, too.  

How do spirits dress in the after life?Are we younger when we pass over?.What happens to men who like woman here on earth?Do spirits eat and drink in the afterlife?

All i can say is wow all i see is alot of thoughts and theorys here.Are you high sapphire? There is one God and one way to heaven and his name is Jesus Christ. And Jesus is most certin not the same God as bhuddism, or any other religion that is a lie from Satan.
Be carefull saphire for you are messing with Demons.When you dabble in things like stral prjection. I love you as a sister and  i care for you as  i do all of you> Dont let your fascination in the afterlife BLind you  and let other peoples  thoerys and imagination give you An idea of what it could be like> read the bible JEsus tells exactly what it will be like and that noone can enter heaven unless he is born again (spiritually) Godbless

Shawn

wrote on Jun 21^st, 2005 at 10:01am:

How do spirits dress in the after life?Are we younger when we pass over?.What happens to men who like woman here on earth?Do spirits eat and drink in the afterlife?

Spirits dress mostly likely are the clothing they had while alive.  But depends where you go (Heaven, Hell, etc.)  has different clothing.   The more advance world you go the more glories clothing you will wear, and it is possible to change clothes.

Most of the world you will go, you will appear younger, but sometimes they may appear in other forms like animals.  If their lives were a gifts from God and they fail their test.   And in Hell, clothing is quite bad.

Your words:  "What happens to men who like woman here on earth" ?   Do you mean "Gay"?

Most spirits do eat, not sure about drinks.  Because llots of world over there, there is no air like on Earth.

wrote on Jun 21^st, 2005 at 11:48pm:

All i can say is wow all i see is alot of thoughts and theorys here.Are you high sapphire? There is one God and one way to heaven and his name is Jesus Christ. And Jesus is most certin not the same God as bhuddism, or any other religion that is a lie from Satan. Be carefull saphire for you are messing with Demons.When you dabble in things like stral prjection. I love you as a sister and  i care for you as  i do all of you> Dont let your fascination in the afterlife BLind you  and let other peoples  thoerys and imagination give you An idea of what it could be like> read the bible JEsus tells exactly what it will be like and that noone can enter heaven unless he is born again (spiritually) Godbless Shawn

No offense, brother.   I am strictly clean, no drugs.  I talked to Jesus many times.  And the Virgin Mary, too.  If I do not have 100 % confident, I would be committing profanity, like I said.  I am a Catholic.  But I am above Catholic already.   I am able to communicate with the Pope in the Heaven.  There is a different Pope over there, I mean not the same person on earth.  Because Christian and Chatholic are in the Kingdom of Heaven.  They are not in the Kingdom of gods. There is a difference.

Jesus and Virgin Mary, they are gods.   But they would travel to Heaven to do teachings.

Please love me as a brother, not a sister.

Oh dear....I'm starting to get just a little concerned here. You know, I haven't been on this board for very long...and when I discovered it, I was searching for answers to various experiences I was having. I have met some really nice people here....and many things were starting to make sense to me...but now, things are starting to get scarey. I do have a Christian background and I do know enough of what the Bible teaches to give me some background sense. However....I feel a very real need to say a few things on this topic started by Sapphire.....and please, no offense Sapphire! Your beliefs and views are just as important to you as anyone else's!
1: The Bible makes it very clear that all it's recordings of events, happened here on Earth, not elsewhere in the universe. Right at the beginning of Genisis, it states that God created the heavens and the earth....all done in a week. The Sabbath day was the final day and He rested.
2: The Bible is specific in what it talks about, as in Jerusalem, Babylon, and Bethleham......it talks about the Mount of Olives...it specifically names places....these places are on earth here, not elsewhere in the universe.
3: One of the 10 Commandments specifically warns: Thou shalt not worship no other God(s) other than Him
4:  The Bible tells us in many chapters that all God wants from us in Love for Him.....this is not a testing ground! God will forgive anything wrongdoing, sin, or otherwise at the drop of a pin! All you need to do is ask for forgiveness!! And you will be forgiven! You will not be held accountable in the end if you have repented....just ask Jesus for forgiveness. It's that easy. Yes, there is the Book of Life and we will be judged on judgement day....however, need not worry if you have Jesus Christ in your life and have taken Him as your Saviour. YOU WILL BE FORGIVEN AND GIVEN YOUR PLACE IN HEAVEN......this is not a test! Yes!! We are tested, every single minute of every single day....the test is coming from Satan...and in fact, it is not a test, it is just Satan trying to deceive us and take away our loving relationship with God. God wants us to be pure and loving....Satan tries to wreck that........if our faith in God is strong, we will survive those tests and come out stronger.

There is a battle going on between God and Satan....and there has been for a very long time! Don't forget, Satan was God's top Angel at one time until Satan got greedy and tried to take over...and then he was thrust out of Heaven and hence, the battle began. And the Bible clearly states all this.
The Bible also clearly states the tools and tricks used by Satan to try to turn us away from God...and we are supposed to be on our guard..be watchful and not fall for the tricks.
The Bible also speaks clearly on dabbling with satanic forces.
You know....the bottom line is that the Bible speaks very clearly on what Heaven is like....and that we each have our place there, made specifically for each of us. We are told to 'trust' that...and not to guestion it. To guestion, is to not have 'faith'...and when you don't have 'faith', Satan can get into our lives, our hearts. And with Satan in you, you cannont get into Heaven and be with Jesus.
When Jesus was crusified on the cross, He had 3 theives next to him, hanging on other crosses. One theif had a conversation with Jesus and said that he was sorry...said that he wanted to be with Jesus in Heaven.....and it was done. Jesus said to him: From here, you will be with me in Heaven. And it was done. There was no testing issue to be done....all it took was for the theif to ask for forgiveness.
I have always believed that as we live on earth we are learning lessons, to help us become better as we go thru life. But these lessons aren't held against us at death, as long as we have asked for forgiveness from God. He doesn't hold our sins against us if we have asked for forgiveness...and the Bible clearly says this.
The Bible also tells us that God is 'everywhere'.....and that He is the Alpha and the Omega....he is everywhere, at all times. The Bible talks of this.
The Bible and Jesus also tells us how clever and crafty the devil can be in order to get us away from God.
The Angels in Heaven are not us humans who have passed on. The Bible clearly says this! It tells us that Angels are not of human likeness......and that as humans, when we go to Heaven, we have a higher standing to God than even the Angels that He created. God created the Angels to help assist us....they perform on His Command...they are not like us.....nor, can we be like them. God had multitides of Angels.....and they cannot reproduce....There is lot's to be said on Angels in the Bible.
After all this babbling that I have just done...I can't help but to mention something else.....in all the conversations that I have had, I have never seen once, any acknowledgement to the fact, and it is a fact, that Jesus gave His life on the cross so that 'we' may have eternal life. Jesus said: That the only way to Heaven, is thru Him.......and no other way.
The Bible tells us to be aware of anything ungodly. And the Bible also says that those who speak to spirits are in fact speaking with demons. This is forbidden territory to us....God's Command....and to do so anyway, is to disobey God......which is what Satan wants.
This entire topic reminds me of a Biblical story in which Jesus cast out a nasty demon and threw this demon into a pit of squeeling pigs.
I am really sorry Sapphire....and I am afraid for you and for anyone who is falling into this way of belief. This is just not of God. And if you aren't of God, then you are with Satan.
I came to this site looking for answers. I think I have found them. I think that all my experiences and whatnot that I have had over the years, are those from Satan...and in his attempt to get me away from the true way of God. I fully believe that I, and those who have strong experiences, are people that God has really good plans for....something really important....and Satan is trying to wreck these plans. So he tries harder.....and that I think, is why most of us are at this site. Confused and convicted in Satan's way now. And the only way to make sense of it is to have a long talk with God...He will show you the way.... :)

Dear Mystic Dreamer ~

If you have personal experiences to share with us, by all means, please do so.   But you are stating your religious beliefs, which is NOT the purpose of this board.   You are also condemning those who don't share your beliefs.    Please stop.   We are not here to be evangelized by you.   If we want to hear the Christian mush you are spouting, we can find it in any church on any corner.   If we want to attend a Christian church or a Bible study, we can easily find them for ourselves.

Celticprince

Celtic Prince......I am not spouting Christian mush as you call it.  I don't need you to be so rude to me...you are just proving that once a Christain standpoint comes up. evil is right there to attack it. Have a good day there Prince...

and one more thing Celtic Prince.....evangelized?? Condemned??? I am merely commenting on another posting in the topic....just as everyone else does here. If you can't handle that, don't climb down my back. Maybe you are the one who needs to go about and figure out what this board is all about...because there are many people here who do believe in God....maybe you don't...that it your choice in life to make. I am not trying to preach to anyone....it's my opinion, my belief in which I can post here....if you are looking for a site in which caters to evilness only, I think you are at the wrong place here.

.....................AND another thing?? You say that I cannot talk about the writtings of the Bible on this board?? I suggest that you check out the post on : WAS JESUS REAL.................and you dare tell me that I can't talk about faith here?? whatever....

Just a gentle reminder here.

I think some of the conversation here is descending into fear and anger.  We can lift ourselves out of that if we allow ourselves to take a step back here.

Sapphire is kindly explaining his/her (?) personal experiences to us on this board and answering questions with humor and sincerity.  It would be interesting to me and to others to hear the full expression of his/her views without this thread falling into a debate over Jesus/Satan/good/evil.

We are not here to judge each other but to learn from each other.  Perhaps we can learn something new from someone who presents ideas different from our own.  Take what is useful to you and leave the rest.

It is not necessary to accuse or to be afraid here.  It is an open forum and should be open to the new and unusual ideas among us.

much love to you all, blink

Ok Blink....the words that I wrote were to point out descrepancies between what sapphire wrote...and between what is clearly written in the Bible. These are my beliefs...appearently not shared by many else here....I thought differently. Appearently what I have to say is not particularly welcome here...I have definitely found the wrong place to do my learning.
I didn't realize that this was an anti-bible place.....good luck in what you are searching for.
It certainly is strange tho....that everyone here can talk about the Bible and God..... and then I bring up the subject and suddenly it is all a bad thing.
That's ok...because it has made me realize that this is not the place to be....I wasn't attempting to come across as good vrs evil.....just pointing some things out. Appearently my words touched a few nerves.
I want to learn more about God....Heaven and what the afterlife has for me when I get there...I don't need to be condemned here for what I believe in because the belief system here is way different.
I'm not up to argue my point....nor, attempt to defend myself and what I believe in. Where there is true love and godliness, there is no need to defend oneself.
Here, it is easy enough for all to believe there is a God....Heaven and Hell....well, if you don't hold true what the Bible says, then how do you believe these other things? It is the Bible where we learned about God and all.....why is it so hard to believe in all else the Bible speaks of? Which includes speaking with spirits? Communicating with demons?
Hmmmm, Christians wouldn't treat someone badly for voicing their beliefs on their forum as this Celtic Prince has done....and Sapphire has every right to speak his/her mind here and have the points heard.......voicing his/her belief....which is what I had done in return. And yes it has gotten scarey, for me at least, because I thought that I had entered into a place where it was safe, good and not with any satanic type stuff going on. And again....that is my opinion.
And yes, I do think that this is not the place for me....and so now I will find another place in which to do my learning. Good luck to you and with what you are looking for.  Oh, sorry for ruining this thread as you pointed out......

Dear Mystic,

I am sorry if it appears that I or others condemn your  beliefs.  That is really not the case, at least for me.  Have you read any of Bruce Moen's books?  If you do you will see that some of Sapphire's ideas do resonate with his.  Perhaps not all of them, but Sapphire is speaking from his/her own experiences.  

Your experiences will be just as interesting and valid to all of us if you do not lose heart here.  There is some occasional bluntness here, but that is the "style" these days, isn't it?

We could all elevate our tone and be kinder, each one of us, couldn't we??

I don't take everything that someone says here for my truth here and neither should you, but when you remain for a while and do your own reading and investigating you eventually find patterns of ideas which echo each other and this can enrich your truth and open your mind to amazing possibilities.

much love, blink

Dear Sapphire-
I was a bit put off by your initial post (mea culpa!) but after reading a bit more I like you immensely. Most of the people on this board are students of Bruce Moen's writings and methods, either as their first experience, or as a later discovery after they discovered the spiritual world. Some are equally fearless in their work in the lower astral wher they pry loose stuck souls and send them off the meet God.

We also have a few whose beliefs are more rigid, mostly due to lack of direct experience. New souls need rigid beliefs as an anchor while they explore the vast ocean of spiritual awareness. Those of us who are uncertain tend to be frightened and angry when our beliefs are questioned - even me, sometimes (mea maxima culpa). Those of us who presently need a rigid view will loosen up as experience provides insight, and it will become obvious that all religious writings, by ancient Egyptians, Hindu rishis, Buddhist monks, Judaic scholars, Christian churchmen, Islamic mullahs or by lesser known saintly people such as Sapphire, Bruce, Alysia and so many more here and elsewhere, all of these writings are inspired by God. However, their value may not be obvious to those who do not have "ears to hear". The ongoing squabble is perhaps of this nature.

As our psychic hearing becomes more acute, we all realize that everything we initially believed is true, but there is so much more that it seems trivial to hang onto a single point of this or that church doctrine and lose the overall knowledge of God that was initially intended. For the Bible, the initial two hundred years spanning the time between Jesus lived and the Gospels etc were formally written down, followed by Emperor Constantine's editing and exclusion of many books, two thousand years of translation by people with imperfect understanding, and our own socially biased interpretations have done little to make matters clear. It's all true, but it is rarely obvious.

In my clinical practice I work with the dead on a daily basis, untangling karmic problems. I think it was Leviticus who said, "Come let us reason together. Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow."  You provide the same insight from a fascinating perspective that is uniquely your own. I am quite interested in what you have to say, and would be very happy to buy your book.  I think you bring a breath of freshness and insight that is new here, and yet as ancient as the cosmos.
d

Oh dear....I'm starting to get just a little concerned here. You know, I haven't been on this board for very long...and when I discovered it, I was searching for answers to various experiences I was having. I have met some really nice people here....and many things were starting to make sense to me...but now, things are starting to get scarey. I do have a Christian background and I do know enough of what the Bible teaches to give me some background sense. However....I feel a very real need to say a few things on this topic started by Sapphire.....and please, no offense Sapphire! Your beliefs and views are just as important to you as anyone else's!
1: The Bible makes it very clear that all it's recordings of events, happened here on Earth, not elsewhere in the universe.  
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I do have respect of your beliefs,  what Bible said they are all correct.   But sorry to tell you the truth, that it did not happen on earth.    

I will give you a very clear exmaple:  Ask any one that any one go to the red sea now and divide the ocean in half.    Do you think any one can do it?

Because Earth has gravity and air, so these are not possible to perform on earh, think about it.

I am not asking you to believe it.   But I know for fact it did happen on other part of universe.

I am going to give you a severve example that " If " I am saying " If " there is one day end of earth.  Please do not think that is not possible. (If all the Nukies exploded at the same time, within 3 months, that will be end of Earth.)  Then all the gods/ goddesses and Saint and Nuns will come down earth to rescue  souls as many as possible.    

And it is important that you need to have your own religion becuase that is where your soul will go.   and in the time of Emergency, your gods will see you easily.

All souls that are saved their memories will remain, they are still going to think Bible happened on earth.  But the Earth will not be there any more.    Just an example.  

But you can believe whatever you want, I don't worsh Santan, by the way.
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Right at the beginning of Genisis, it states that God created the heavens and the earth....all done in a week. The Sabbath day was the final day and He rested.
2: The Bible is specific in what it talks about, as in Jerusalem, Babylon, and Bethleham......it talks about the Mount of Olives...it specifically names places....these places are on earth here, not elsewhere in the universe.
3: One of the 10 Commandments specifically warns: Thou shalt not worship no other God(s) other than Him
4:  The Bible tells us in many chapters that all God wants from us in Love for Him.....this is not a testing ground! God will forgive anything wrongdoing, sin, or otherwise at the drop of a pin! All you need to do is ask for forgiveness!! And you will be forgiven! You will not be held accountable in the end if you have repented....just ask Jesus for forgiveness. It's that easy. Yes, there is the Book of Life and we will be judged on judgement day....however, need not worry if you have Jesus Christ in your life and have taken Him as your Saviour. YOU WILL BE FORGIVEN AND GIVEN YOUR PLACE IN HEAVEN......this is not a test! Yes!! We are tested, every single minute of every single day....the test is coming from Satan...and in fact, it is not a test, it is just Satan trying to deceive us and take away our loving relationship with God. God wants us to be pure and loving....Satan tries to wreck that........if our faith in God is strong, we will survive those tests and come out stronger.
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You understand everything by the book and only the  book, good for you.    

You have strong faith in Bible, which is very important.   I have never said, Bible is not real. Just it did not happen on Earth.    

I am able to leave human body, that is why I can see more clearly.  

When you reach Heaven, you will be semi-Immortal but still not 100% Immortal.
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There is a battle going on between God and Satan....and there has been for a very long time! Don't forget, Satan was God's top Angel at one time until Satan got greedy and tried to take over...and then he was thrust out of Heaven and hence, the battle began. And the Bible clearly states all this.
The Bible also clearly states the tools and tricks used by Satan to try to turn us away from God...and we are supposed to be on our guard..be watchful and not fall for the tricks.  
The Bible also speaks clearly on dabbling with satanic forces.
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Just to be clear, I am not Satan,  Satan does not save souls.   If you would know how many souls that I have saved all all the glories deeds I had done, you will not write so,  but you are forgiven, because you can not see other sides of universe.  
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You know....the bottom line is that the Bible speaks very clearly on what Heaven is like....and that we each have our place there, made specifically for each of us. We are told

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And I am going to give you one more, a very, very clear example:  Bibile also said some of the names in the Bible lived 800 more years.

And you still think it happened on earth.  No, it did not.

And you still don't get it.   It is fine with me.    

wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2005 at 1:46pm:

Dear Mystic Dreamer ~ If you have personal experiences to share with us, by all means, please do so.   But you are stating your religious beliefs, which is NOT the purpose of this board.   You are also condemning those who don't share your beliefs.    Please stop.   We are not here to be evangelized by you.   If we want to hear the Christian mush you are spouting, we can find it in any church on any corner.   If we want to attend a Christian church or a Bible study, we can easily find them for ourselves. Celticprince

Well said, thank you.  

I started to worry that I might have to bring the entire Bible just to communicate with Mythic Dreamer, no offense.   Ha, Ha.

wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2005 at 7:09pm:

and one more thing Celtic Prince.....evangelized?? Condemned??? I am merely commenting on another posting in the topic....just as everyone else does here. If you can't handle that, don't climb down my back. Maybe you are the one who needs to go about and figure out what this board is all about...because there are many people here who do believe in God....maybe you don't...that it your choice in life to make. I am not trying to preach to anyone....it's my opinion, my belief in which I can post here....if you are looking for a site in which caters to evilness only, I think you are at the wrong place here.

Hey, Mystic Dreamer,


I hope you are still reading this forum.

Think of this forum is a place to exchange ideas, no one said that you have to believe one or another.

You sound a little angry, it is not necessary.  We are all friends and we do love each other in a certain of way, by the judging of your writings you do express a sincrely love for the "Bible"  I admire great deal about that.

Do not disappear on the face of earth.  It is really unnecessary.    I tell you my own experince,  I am almost a supper man, that this forum actully have  very nice people here.   I do writings on other forums, they would attack me to a point, that I would lose my temper, too.   But think of the good deeds you are doing and potentially, some human will be converted and to be saved.

That is what you should focus at.

So, Smile.  My frined,   it is no big deal.

     
;D  

wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2005 at 5:27am:

Dear Mystic, I am sorry if it appears that I or others condemn your  beliefs.  That is really not the case, at least for me.  Have you read any of Bruce Moen's books?  If you do you will see that some of Sapphire's ideas do resonate with his.  Perhaps not all of them, but Sapphire is speaking from his/her own experiences.   Your experiences will be just as interesting and valid to all of us if you do not lose heart here.  There is some occasional bluntness here, but that is the "style" these days, isn't it? We could all elevate our tone and be kinder, each one of us, couldn't we?? I don't take everything that someone says here for my truth here and neither should you, but when you remain for a while and do your own reading and investigating you eventually find patterns of ideas which echo each other and this can enrich your truth and open your mind to amazing possibilities. much love, blink

All of Blink's postings sounds like voices from an Angel.    Are you sure you are not a "God" yourself?      :D  

I will tell everyone a very interesting story, and it is real.

One time I was out of my human body, I was thinking "How come I have never seen Angels? Where are they?  And how could they appear with wings?"  (Everytime, I am out of human body, I am able to think and act like in real life.)

I love playing with my soul, because I want to know  what can I do or what type of tricks or magics that I would be able to perform?

I wanted to appear with wings, I tried everything but with no success.   Then I think maybe it is bulit from the shoulder blades.   So, I hit my arms backward torward the shoulder blades.  

And the magic happened, two big beautiful white wings exploded on my back.   See, I know I am able to do that, too.  I could assure you that I am not Satan, LOL.  I was thrilled.  (You think I am lying, I am not.)

But another problems did appear that how to put them back to hands?    Ha, Ha, it took me a while to put them back, too.  
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Hey everyone.

I don't follow the bible, from teachings at school i have a very basic understanding but thats all. When i think of the afterlife i think of it as another world just like earth, everyone is welcome, theres no gates, no your've done bad your not coming in. This is just my view, i would like to think of it as just a place we can all go over there. I can meet up with my grandad and enjoy the most beautiful days and continue in my spiritual growth.

I haven't read this thread for a while and from an outsiders view (no beliefs in a heaven and hell) i'll tell you the feelings i got from this board.

although i don't follow your beliefs sapphire i do enjoy reading them and what you have to say and find it truly interesting to hear another persons beliefs. When i was reading Mystic_dreamers views i did not feel any anger coming from her...why this kicked off a bit i do not know. As for a place to share views i think this is what she did, whether we agree or not is our choice.

I was confused by celtic prince's post. I take ti your not christian? but what mystic_dreamer did stating her religious beliefs is what sapphrie is doing as well...i'm confused why this upset you. I hope we can all move on, we all have a right here and i don't think it was abused...

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to continue the board however im intrigued in a couple of your points sapphire...

you said people in hell don't have souls...isn't this the very essence of us good or bad?

also in heaven we are not 100% immortal you claimed. I thought we were? and if we are not, can our soul, mind, thoughts, space, conciousness just be wiped so we no longer exsist anymore?? how is this possible?

Cheers Ryan

Ryan B..............THANK YOU soooooo much for your input on this. I feel a whole lot better now knowing that I wasn't completely out of line here.   ;)

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I wanted to appear with wings, I tried everything but with no success.   Then I think maybe it is bulit from the shoulder blades.   So, I hit my arms backward torward the shoulder blades.  
 
And the magic happened, two big beautiful white wings exploded on my back.   See, I know I am able to do that, too.  I could assure you that I am not Satan, LOL.  I was thrilled.  (You think I am lying, I am not.)
 
But another problems did appear that how to put them back to hands?    Ha, Ha, it took me a while to put them back, too.
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Oh, Sapphire, how funny you are!  You don't have to lose your arms when your wings appear!  

All of us should know that our wings are there for us whenever we think of them.  

Just wrap them around yourselves whenever you need them to comfort you...they are so large they will completely cover you and cradle you in their softness...or let them take you to the places you dream of....

love, blink 

dave_a_mbs wrote:

Dear Sapphire-
I was a bit put off by your initial post (mea culpa!) but after reading a bit more I like you immensely. Most of the people on this board are students of Bruce Moen's writings and methods, either as their first experience, or as a later discovery after they discovered the spiritual world. Some are equally fearless in their work in the lower astral wher they pry loose stuck souls and send them off the meet God.

We also have a few whose beliefs are more rigid, mostly due to lack of direct experience. New souls need rigid beliefs as an anchor while they explore the vast ocean of spiritual awareness. Those of us who are uncertain tend to be frightened and angry when our beliefs are questioned - even me, sometimes (mea maxima culpa). Those of us who presently need a rigid view will loosen up as experience provides insight, and it will become obvious that all religious writings, by ancient Egyptians, Hindu rishis, Buddhist monks, Judaic scholars, Christian churchmen, Islamic mullahs or by lesser known saintly people such as Sapphire, Bruce, Alysia and so many more here and elsewhere, all of these writings are inspired by God.
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I must say it is such a joy to read dave_a_mbs posting, it is humorous, generous, and feel like from it is from the hand of the "William Shakespeare".  

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However, their value may not be obvious to those who do not have "ears to hear". The ongoing squabble is perhaps of this nature.

As our psychic hearing becomes more acute, we all realize that everything we initially believed is true, but there is so much more that it seems trivial to hang onto a single point of this or that church doctrine and lose the overall knowledge of God that was initially intended. For the Bible, the initial two hundred years spanning the time between Jesus lived and the Gospels etc were formally written down, followed by Emperor Constantine's editing and exclusion of many books, two thousand years of translation by people with imperfect understanding, and our own socially biased interpretations have done little to make matters clear. It's all true, but it is rarely obvious.

In my clinical practice I work with the dead on a daily basis, untangling karmic problems.
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I am very curious, what line of job is this?  And can you share your point of view from your own experiences from working with the dead?  Anything unusaul happened with the dead and have you ever seen spirits or ghosts?  

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I think it was Leviticus who said, "Come let us reason together. Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow."  You provide the same insight from a fascinating perspective that is uniquely your own. I am quite interested in what you have to say, and would be very happy to buy your book.  I think you bring a breath of freshness and insight that is new here, and yet as ancient as the cosmos.
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I'd very seldem seen a masterpiece like this posting.  

And there are lots of great writers here, too.   I am blessed to meet everyone here. ("When" or "if " I have a book will let you know.)

Sorry for cutting everyone's quotes, the reason is I find it is easiler to reply to a specific question or words.

And Dave could be the only one or shall I say I am the only one has to live with a spell check?  LOL.
     

Mystic Dreamer ~

You say you have found "the Truth" but you have no love.   And, if your religion has no love, it is cold and dead and ready to be buried.  

Try to listen and learn.   Right now Sapphire is sharing her lifetime of experiences.   I appreciate her kindness in taking the time to share them with us.   I pray she continues to share.

Celticprince




wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2005 at 7:09pm:

and one more thing Celtic Prince.....evangelized?? Condemned??? I am merely commenting on another posting in the topic....just as everyone else does here. If you can't handle that, don't climb down my back. Maybe you are the one who needs to go about and figure out what this board is all about...because there are many people here who do believe in God....maybe you don't...that it your choice in life to make. I am not trying to preach to anyone....it's my opinion, my belief in which I can post here....if you are looking for a site in which caters to evilness only, I think you are at the wrong place here.

Ryan b  wrote:

to continue the board however im intrigued in a couple of your points sapphire...

you said people in hell don't have souls...isn't this the very essence of us good or bad?

also in heaven we are not 100% immortal you claimed. I thought we were? and if we are not, can our soul, mind, thoughts, space, conciousness just be wiped so we no longer exsist anymore?? how is this possible?

Cheers Ryan
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Dear Ryan,

I do not think I've ever said that people in Hell do not have souls.   I am not sure where did it lead you into that direction,  if I have written any line that led readers into that drection then I must correct those words.  No offense.   (Please point out to me which part is misleading?  Because I have to correct it.)

People in "Hel"l do have souls that is why they will feel the pain.  If no souls, and no feelings then what type of suffering is that?    :)

When I went to "Hel" when Astral Projected( I went there to visist not to be punished, all right?)  

I was just curious to see what is in there, because I have god status, so I know I am safe for visisting there.    The "Hell" is very noisy.  It is noisy because there are many condemned souls there.   Some part of there is like a butcher shop, they would cut some souls in half and they were all screaming.  (By the way, many of them look like the terrorists form the middle east.)

I could not help them, because they deserved it.  They were cut and were put back together and cut their souls again and again.  Just to let them feel what is it like to be killed.

Your question: "also in heaven we are not 100% immortal you claimed. I thought we were?"

I hate to say this but it is real that even in Heaven you are 50% immortal.   If you are able to do Astral projection, you will know the Heaven People usually came from Human beings.  

There are a set percentage of souls of a god, heaven people and Earth human beings.   And the souls of human being are quite small ( But still not the smallest in the Universe.)   It is a big step just to move them to Heaven.   Because their souls need to be enlarged by God.   And when Astral projected, their souls are able to show in color but still a 50% colors. and 50 % transparent.   When I Astral Projected, I would appear solid colors and in full body and the density of my Astral body that no weapon are able to kill me.

One of my experiences when out of body:  Someone pulled out a gun on me, I was thinking "This time, my god soul will be dead."   But what happened was the bullets slowed down to a speed hard to imagine, it is a little like the movie "Matrix" that I had time to avoid it and when they fired more bullets toward me, they hit a invisible wall like one yard from my soul and all fell on the ground.  

And I thought I was going to die, because being a human too long.   My theory is I have a inner god protection system, when I am not able to respond, this system will come out and protect me, if you ask me why?  I have no idea.  It just happens.  

In real life, too.   There are 5 times I faced death possbilities, but somehow it did not happen like I would imagine.        

Your question: " and if we are not, can our soul, mind, thoughts, space, conciousness just be wiped so we no longer exsist anymore?? how is this possible"

You will not be wiped out or no longer existst.    Unless, the person is extremely evil then the possiblity is there.   But very, very few.   That is the reason of Hell and reincarations, so people can try to learn again.

Even when you are semi-immortal, you will get bore after a while.  For example: I will give you Steak every day for a year, are you not going bore?   And some might have painful memories, that they want to earse.   Being human on earth, could be the only place that you are not going to remember your past.

But Heaven people are able to advance themselves and perhaps someday to be granted to Kingdom of gods and become immortal.  It is possible.  

Most kindom of gods, they were born with it.  That means they were born by the Boss,  the Creator of Universe.  The "one".

wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2005 at 6:39pm:

Oh, Sapphire, how funny you are!  You don't have to lose your arms when your wings appear!   All of us should know that our wings are there for us whenever we think of them.   Just wrap them around yourselves whenever you need them to comfort you...they are so large they will completely cover you and cradle you in their softness...or let them take you to the places you dream of.... love, blink

Good thinking,

Love, Sapphire

wrote on Jun 25^th, 2005 at 12:14pm:

Try to listen and learn.   Right now Sapphire is sharing her lifetime of experiences.   I appreciate her kindness in taking the time to share them with us.   I pray she continues to share. Celticprince

I am here to be interrogated, so bring on the lights.  :D

Questions or comments are welcome.   We do not have to believe each other theories if you choose not to. LOL. But we do have "love" for one another.  

But mine could be real.   Just to keep you thinking.
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Hi Sapphire-

I wish I had a spell check.  I try, but I miss stuff.

I'm hardly a Shakespeare. Just an old fart who does past life therapy.

My job is to use hypnosis (which means to help people into a guided meditation) to lead people into discovery of their past lives, to review them, to encounter their emotions and to get rid of hatred, blame, fear or other strong emotions so that  in the present life they can be free to grow. The hardest part is to keep from  inserting my opinion, or leading them. The easiest part is simply to tell them that as fast as they looking and moving toward God, God is twice as fast in looking and moving toward them. I'm, Board certfied (IBRT) and you can find me and others just like me in the IARRT.com site or the IHF hypnotherapy site. No big deal.  

The people that truly need the kind of information you're bringing are the ones who are new to these ideas, and are out there learning to rescue stuck souls. You have a personal style that is a nice contrast to that of Bruce Moen (worth reading!) that most of them have never encountered. Keep it up!

dave

Hi you said that someone pulled a gun on you while out of body.Why did you try to devend yourself.In my experience the spirit cannot be killed.You also said,that in the afterlife,we are have human and hafe spirit.All the the people that I have seen are solid,so where do you get this hafe and hafe.Where do you live.I would like to talk to you man to man or woman.maybe by email.There are a lot of things you say that I dont understand,George

wrote on Jun 25^th, 2005 at 12:34pm:

I do not think I've ever said that people in Hell do not have souls.   I am not sure where did it lead you into that direction,  if I have written any line that led readers into that drection then I must correct those words.  No offense.   (Please point out to me which part is misleading?  Because I have to correct it.)

Hi. No sorry that was my mistake i read it wrong. Appologies to anyone i confused.

Cheers Ryan

wrote on Jun 25^th, 2005 at 7:08pm:

Hi Sapphire- I wish I had a spell check.  I try, but I miss stuff. I'm hardly a Shakespeare. Just an old fart who does past life therapy. My job is to use hypnosis (which means to help people into a guided meditation) to lead people into discovery of their past lives, to review them, to encounter their emotions and to get rid of hatred, blame, fear or other strong emotions so that  in the present life they can be free to grow. The hardest part is to keep from  inserting my opinion, or leading them. The easiest part is simply to tell them that as fast as they looking and moving toward God, God is twice as fast in looking and moving toward them. I'm, Board certfied (IBRT) and you can find me and others just like me in the IARRT.com site or the IHF hypnotherapy site. No big deal.   The people that truly need the kind of information you're bringing are the ones who are new to these ideas, and are out there learning to rescue stuck souls. You have a personal style that is a nice contrast to that of Bruce Moen (worth reading!) that most of them have never encountered. Keep it up! dave

Thanks for the encouragement, I truely believe in "hypnosis" I am going to tell you something interesting, but I will surely have hard time to prove it.   Like you can do professional Hypnoisis, so you would believe the true power of it.  

When I was Astral Projected, sometimes I have to use this skill, too.    Because some advanced Demons are able to lie infront of me.  (Most cannot, because they are not that advance.)

When I suspect or I want to double check whether they are telling the truth, I would Hypnoisis them and read their brains, and there would be a 4 D hologram shown in the sight of mine.   So, I would be able to tell if the beings are telling the truth.    

The funny thing is when the demon is lying and both of us can see the 4D hologram, so they would learn to keep quiet, because the truth is showing there.

That is how the Heaven god judged the recently passed away human souls.    No one can lie to the God.    

Because they check human soul's memories, instead of hearing them to tell the stroies, and then decide where to send them, like "Heaven," "Hell." and etc.

Like some people would say, "My whole life flashed before my eyes."

It is the identical situation when face the "Judement".

But according to my understanding, some people do not have to face "judement."    Like some people already had a "God" or "Angel" or "Heaven" Status and not knowing it.  

They are different, most likely they will be welcome from other gods, or angels or Nuns from Heaven and escort them directly to where they should go.

     

wrote on Jun 26^th, 2005 at 9:33am:

Hi you said that someone pulled a gun on you while out of body.Why did you try to devend yourself.In my experience the spirit cannot be killed.You also said,that in the afterlife,we are have human and hafe spirit.All the the people that I have seen are solid,so where do you get this hafe and hafe.Where do you live.I would like to talk to you man to man or woman.maybe by email.There are a lot of things you say that I dont understand,George

Hi, George,

Being a human too long, I meant that I am used to be a human, so sometimes I still think like a human when astral projected.  

When seeing a bullent, my first human instincts is " I will die from this."   I do not always remember that I have a status or "I am not in a human body right now."    :)

There are still degrees and stages of souls, and when I mentioned "Heaven people"  they are semi-immortal,  but still not immortal.  

The reason I know this is because I have another skill is to fix souls.   One day a Goddess from the "Heaven" level.   She aged terribly,  she praticaully dragging her skins to see me. she asked me to fix her.  

This is so funny of being a god.  They all know you, knew your abilities, just I did not remember anything,  because being born on earth my memories of the past was washed away while in human fetus.  

When she asked me, I asked her what many good deeds she had accumulated, she told me a lot and was proven she was right.   So, I fixed her looks into a beautiful young lady.

You can ask me questions here, I am sure many people do not understand, either.    You are actully helping them to understand, too.

 

Can the spirit of a loved one,who has passed over come back and  pull the spirit from are bodies,and take us to the heavenly realms and show us everything about the life afterdeath,as Katie logan said happened to her.Katie said she was pulled from her body by her brother,and taken to the heavenly realms,and shown all there is to know about the afterlife.The name of the book is the birth called death.anybody here ever read the book.George

Hi, dave_a_mbs,

It might be slightly off topic but how does your hypnosis work compare to the methods used by Dr. Brian Weiss for past life regressions? Have you read his books, which, I think, are excellent?

In his "Messages From The Masters" he sets out a procedure for getting into a really relaxed state to enable past life regression to be undertaken. My partner and I tried this on each other a couple of times while on holiday, with great success - we were both amazed at how easy it was, but, in saying that, I think a lot has to do with us both being attuned to Reiki. This has taught us how to relax very quickly and easily.
In one of my past lives I was a Viking warrior. The images of this were very clear indeed!

best wishes, roger :)

Hi Roger-

No, I think that this is actually right on topic, or it canbe. What we are seeing in this thread is Sapphire, obviously coming from a shamanic viewpoint where she gets into the nitty gritty, Bruce's approaches where we are to go out and prospect for souls in need of help, and the past life hypnoanalytic work perspective. They all do the same thing in the same way, but there's usually so much fluff going on that the mechanics are hidden.

Let's start with shamanism. "Real shamans" don't use drugs, but most of the rest of us who do shamanic work have used something from time to time inorder to reach a suitable depth of trance. (In the 1960 era, when I learned how to do this stuff I was a hippie, and I most certainly inhaled.) Those who don't use drugs, my wife, for example, use a mind set that focuses their awareness into one of the parallel universes in which they are interested. For our universe, we have a total of 5 parallel 3-space universes (think pentacle), all of which overlap and share our dimensional system, and which collectively form a 7-space reality. This comes from dimensionally analytic topology, which is where I play. Drug users have to have a mind set also, or they get the famous "bad LSD trip - I went to hell" experience. Sapphire, from what she writes, is a natural shaman who needs only to focus on the astral, and she can exclude the everyday clutter and go there. (I suspect that Marilyn and Alysia have tis ability as well, and there are several others on the site who show it, but haven't yet gotten it tamed.)

Now look at Bruce's approach. He uses techniques similar to kundalini yoga to draw energy in, focus it, then use it to reach an altered relationship with the everyday world in which the mind is more or less free to look into the astral. His CDs give the methods in detail (and his autograph!) if you're curious. These ideas have been around for millennia, as tribal dances that pant the dancer into trance, as bhastrika pranayama (now used in place of LSD by Groff and others), as formal yoga methods, and as slow breathing methods, all of which aim at withdrawal of awareness from the everyday world into the trance state so that it can be focussed into the astral.

Hypnosis is essentially a technique of telling people to stop fooling about with their thinking, and to relax away their attachments to the everyday world. In fact, that's exactly what I tell people. Then it's a matter of telling them to either go to the astral, if they know where it is, or to go to a past life, die, go to the astral, and then stay there and do whatever we need to work on.

Bringing all this together, the key ingredients are first to either use will power and a simple mind set, run energy or induce relaxation, so as to alter the focus of the mind so that it no longer is looking into the everyday world. Then for soul retrievals, we go into the mental and lower astral to look for people who are stuck. For shamanic work we go into mental, lower or upper astral, and get in contact with whatever there is that needs to be done. For entity removal, we call the entity to focus on the everyday space while the host is in an astrally aware state, so that we can argue and do therapy that allows the entity to go into the Light. For past life work we send the patient into the astral to deal with the souls of others, to get in touch with loved ones, or to othewise make peace with fragments of the personality that are out of adjustment.

All of these are the same, with the exception of the specific technique used to alter focus. What I have learned, however, is that the most dangerous approach is to use artificial  methods, because they are hard to control. In principle,it should be possible to bulld an artificial "container" that a soul could inhabit to communicate with us, making spirit world contacts available to everyone, but that remains to be seen.

The specific reason that I like Sapphire's approach here is that she brings the freshness of immediate personal experiences, with an enthusiasm that is rare. Aside from that, you can more or less equate what she's saying with Bruce's books, Michael Newton's studies, Weiss' work etc. The only note I'd add here is that not everyone uses intermediaries, like Bruce's helpers or Weiss' heavenly autocrats. Since ultimately everything is God, all these are is God-fragments that are personified for their work.  

Actually, you probably already knew all this, but just never looked at it in quite this way, eh?

d

I will be back answer question, just I am very busy today.
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I have a ebook published on Merlin's website.

It is called "Successful Astral Projection to the space and universe."

There are many definitions of Astral Projection. Some experts claimed that it is an "Out of body experience" as described "OBE". And there are many methods to perform the skill. Some of the famous methods, such as "Silva Mind Control Method", "The Monroe Technique" and many methods that are published on the web sites.

But none of them are easy and efficient enough to use, and not to mention the fact, they are confusing. And most of users can only get out of body experience (OBE) instead of a accurate "Astral Projection".

Sapphire has designed a simple yet effective way for you to visist the space and Universe for the beginners and the Masters.

It is in Merlin's website under "Astral/ebook."

Hi, again, dave_a_mbs,

Thank you very much indeed for your in depth reply. I always find your views very interesting indeed.

I suppose I am one of the lucky ones in that, not having any pressures in life, I am a totally relaxed and laid-back guy, have never taken drugs (other than precribed medical) and have a very strong willpower.

To Sapphire, is there a link to the Merlin`s web site you mention, please?

best wishes to all, roger :)  

Sorry Sapphire, but I can't find it from that description - and I Googled it for five minutes

The world is filled with "Merlin stuff", and none of them seem to produce your title -  Aside from posting the link here, there's a Visitor's Forum site on which it would be a useful addition to put whatever is needed to acquire this new gem.  (Maybe it would be easier if we were all psychic, eh?)

d

wrote on Jun 28^th, 2005 at 8:41am:

Can the spirit of a loved one,who has passed over come back and  pull the spirit from are bodies,and take us to the heavenly realms and show us everything about the life afterdeath,as Katie logan said happened to her.Katie said she was pulled from her body by her brother,and taken to the heavenly realms,and shown all there is to know about the afterlife.The name of the book is the birth called death.anybody here ever read the book.George

Dear George,

Personally,  I do believe she used the wrong term of expressing her experiences.  Because I do not believe what she said that her spirit was pulled by her brother.   Unless, her passed brother has a "God" status, then he is abusing his power to do so.   Because being a god, if for fact he is one,  he is not allowed to pull human's souls, unless some very specail cases or autherised by very high rank gods.  That kind of activity is prohibited.   He could be punished by high rank gods and lose his power if he had a god status.

I think what happened  was she had lucid dreams, because the passed away relatiives are able to visit you this way, but not all the time and not always allowed.  

wrote on Jun 30^th, 2005 at 1:20am:

Hi, again, dave_a_mbs, Thank you very much indeed for your in depth reply. I always find your views very interesting indeed. I suppose I am one of the lucky ones in that, not having any pressures in life, I am a totally relaxed and laid-back guy, have never taken drugs (other than precribed medical) and have a very strong willpower. To Sapphire, is there a link to the Merlin`s web site you mention, please? best wishes to all, roger :)

Astral Projection is actually of way of making your soul to leave your human body.  And  the funny thing is those worlds I visited they could not tell, I still have a human boy on earth, they just think I am really back to the kingdom of gods.

In this ebook, will teach you how to master the skills.  And this is an Art was kept locked within Buhhdism, because only the very high rank Monks are allowed to practice this skills.   But they use this skill to visit the "Pure Land." where the Buhhda lives to gain knowledge of Buhhdism and communicate with the Buhhda.

But with the same skill, we can do more instead of just visiting the "Pure Land."

And when your soul is out of your body, it is very easy for human to see gods.

Most methods only show you how to be out of body, but it is still on earth (within your bedroom or the town you live).   But not a actual "Astral Projection." (It could travel far to the universe.)

And in this ebook, it will teach you how to break the barrier (most people does not know how.) and leave earth, you can ride on the stars right away.  And when your skills are mature, other part of space, too.  


This is the link to Merlin's web site. I forgot to  mentioned.


http://fortunetellermerlin.faithweb.com/custom4.html
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wrote on Jul 1^st, 2005 at 10:44am:

Sorry Sapphire, but I can't find it from that description - and I Googled it for five minutes The world is filled with "Merlin stuff", and none of them seem to produce your title -  Aside from posting the link here, there's a Visitor's Forum site on which it would be a useful addition to put whatever is needed to acquire this new gem.  (Maybe it would be easier if we were all psychic, eh?) d

Again, my apologies.   I should have mentioned it the first time.

click on this link:

http://fortunetellermerlin.faithweb.com/custom4.html



I have over 15 years of Astral Projection experiences, and sometimes agaist my wish I would show up in some worlds in the universe that I was requested to be there.  

For example: I saw our late president "Abraham Lincoln" in one of my Astral projections.   He told me he is very worried about the situation of the America, right now.    I said to him "Why would you worry?  You are not even a human, now." (By the way he is in the kingdom of gods.)

He said "Even so, he is still deeply concern and obversing every move of America."

They do not have CNN over there, but there is still a way to find out the news there.   Amazing.

I was thrilled to see him.   He is a very friendly God.

Hey sapphire.I can move any part of my body by command.Is this my spirit doing this?George

wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2005 at 1:27pm:

Hey sapphire.I can move any part of my body by command.Is this my spirit doing this?George

George,  You have lost me somewhere.   You meant when you are Astral Projeted?  or  ??  I do not quiet follow you.

If judged by the words.  Yes, your soul is controling your body movement.

Yesterday, when I was astral projected.  I went to the kingdom of gods.   They showed me my body over there.   And that is the body I had when I was in the kingdom of gods.   It is really weird.   The body is still well preserved, very handsome and around the age of 26.  

I cannot explain it.   But it was my body over there, although I am able to appear over there.   They could not explain either.    They thought I should be using that body to be there.   But I am not.

I came to the earth to be born as human in secrecy and in a rush.   But I do know I have missions on earth.    

Hey Sapphire, I just wanted to get some clarification from you on a question I asked that you kindly addressed...but never really gave an answer for...

Is there any way possible to avoid reincarnation?

We have spoke of this here numerous times....and some say we can based on their experiences with the Afterlife and that we do have THAT much of freedom of choice. The idea that you can only know your loved ones for a small period of time instead of just being able to spend unlimited time with them in the Afterlife instead of reporting back to Earth as some brand new identity out of your control is discomforting. So I wanted to see what info you might be able to share specifically about this....thanks.

Hi JG-

I'm not Sapphire, but I have a classical answer.

The ancient Hindu sage Yajnavalkya was an enlightened individual whose teachings still are preserved in the Vedas, the sacred books of the Hindu faith.

One day Yajnavalkya's wife asked him, "Lord, is ther any way to avoid death?" Yajnavalkya responded, "Oh wife, is there any way to avoid going to sleep?"

She again asked him, "Then Lord, is there any way to avoid reincarnation?" To this the sage rsponded, "Is there any way to avoid waking after sleep?"

It's a misquote from memory, but very close.

dave

wrote on Jul 5^th, 2005 at 7:56pm:

Obviously I've yet to master the method of adding the Smiley icons to my posts. I'm equally at a loss with URLs, but fortunately don't need any here. ------------ Sapphire transmitted the e-book, I read it very rapidly, and I have a couple thoughts on it that may or may not inspire others. First, this is a Brief Coverage of the topic. If your decision is whether to buy food or this book, go for the food. You'll be more satisfied later. However, it you want dessert, this is a very decent coverage of how to project.  It's remarkably brief, an advantage to readers, but a disadvantage to those who value things on voloume alone. There are two basic methods listed, O have no doubt that both will be effective, but I haven't had time to test them out yet. Both of the techniques are similar in their very general content to those available from boks by Monroe, Carrington & Muldoon, and others, although I can't place them precisely without going back through a few dozen references. I also recall a very similar technique proposed by Ormand McGill, a highly esteemed hypnotherapist, who made an extensive study of hypnotic methods and those used in Indian meditation. In one of his writings, McGill used specific suggestions that essentially were a parallel tp Sapphires astral projection methods. However, Ormand was using them for a deep meditation. I see no particular conflict with methods for astral entry suggested by Bruce's fifth book or CDs. If you can't get in touch with the astral levels through Bruce's ideas, these ought to be another option. There are doubtless dozens of other techniques as well, there's no monopoly here. Sapphire gives a little commentary on experiences, and some very good advice about cleanliness of body and spirit. If I had followed that advice 50 years ago I'd be in a different world today, but I guess that lumps are proof of living. I had $25 available.  I didn't mind spending it. I got the content advertised. It isn't a scam. Now to see if I can use the ideas. dave

Hey, Dave,

Thanks again for purchasing the ebook.  I think your comment is fair and humorous.

I think you forgot to mention that my methods are the best, compare with all the authors you mentioned.  

Because they lack of some very important process.   That causes the readers of those books and can only get "out of body experiences".   That is still earthly experiences.    But to the Space and Universe my methods are the best.  

And your words:  
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"First, this is a Brief Coverage of the topic. If your decision is whether to buy food or this book, go for the food. You'll be more satisfied later."
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You are really humorous, this crack me up.   For those enjoy the food more, of cause the food is better.   But if you want to master the skill with not much of struggle, my book is best on earth.   You think I am bragging I am not.   The book is right to the point, and all important methods that get you to master the skill.

So, your astral body, does not still wander on earth and get the "universe" already.   It is so much fun out there, and eye opening.    And you will know what my postings are real. Especially, the Catholic and Christian in the kingdom of Heaven, they welcome you to visit them.   They all knew I have published the ebook, that is one of the reasons I am on earth.

Because most human, does not believe in God.   This is one way of proving it.   You are going to see them, when you are out of universe.  

Your words:  
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"these ought to be another option.  There are doubtless dozens of other techniques as well, there's no monopoly here.

Sapphire gives a little commentary on experiences, and some very good advice about cleanliness of body and spirit. If I had followed that advice 50 years ago I'd be in a different world today, but I guess that lumps are proof of living.

I had $25 available.  I didn't mind spending it.     I got the content advertised. It isn't a scam.  

Now to see if I can use the ideas.
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Thank again for your fair comments, and stated it is not a scam and got the content advertised.  This is very important to me.

Tips for you, if you follow the ebook religiously, you will be able to prove what I said is right.   When you are out in the space and universe, remember to come back, you still can perform two jobs, as human and as one of the gods, too. (Because you sounds like: You do not want to come back, according to what you wrote.) :D

And a good news for you:

I have never mentioned that I have ESP (Telepathy,  Clairvoyance, precognitions and remote viewing.) abilities, too.   The reason I do not really want to mention it, because too many people will ask me to read them, but I only use them at important events (Like what will be next major disaster will happen on earth or other worlds?).   I am less interested in reading individuals

And by chance I read yours, you had a "god" title, too.  (But at this point, I do not know what exactly was your title. )  I can see the past live with remote viewing, but very few people I can read with no physical contact, for example: I have never seen you or even know you in my life.  Yet, I am able to feel you.  

While you were reading the ebook I could feel you, and felt the excitements you had.   And about your past life.   You knew me in the past life.   And you were on of my friends in the kingdom of gods.   That explains why I can feel you easily.   Because you are one of us.  

So, I had no doubt that with my methods, you will be able to go all levels of universe.   But if you have more questions, do not hesitate to ask me.

I would really like to get to know your field and maybe be an Email friend of yours (That is if you accept me to become one of your friends.)  

I have another ability to read human past lives, too.  I do not mind to give you this free tip.

Yours,

Sapphire

wrote on Jul 5^th, 2005 at 11:52am:

Hey Sapphire, I just wanted to get some clarification from you on a question I asked that you kindly addressed...but never really gave an answer for... Is there any way possible to avoid reincarnation? We have spoke of this here numerous times....and some say we can based on their experiences with the Afterlife and that we do have THAT much of freedom of choice. The idea that you can only know your loved ones for a small period of time instead of just being able to spend unlimited time with them in the Afterlife instead of reporting back to Earth as some brand new identity out of your control is discomforting. So I wanted to see what info you might be able to share specifically about this....thanks.

Yes, there is a way to avoid reincarnation.   That you have to reach the level of "Immortality".    In short to become one of the gods.

Many human think, there is only one "God".   Yes, there is one "Boss of all gods." But there are many worlds and galaxies in the universe (For this you have to do astral project to find out this is real.)

The "God" cannot manage all of these by himself.   There are many of his children and some gods came from the Heaven Beings or from human beings.

But it takes many lives and many tests and many levels of universe to prove you are worthy of being a god.   And the boss will assign jobs for you, according to your abilities, of cause.  

And you will become immortal.   Because the "God" is able to transform your soul into "immortality if you prove that you are worthy."

Then you will never die.  Then again, when you have everything wonderful for very long period of time.   You might get bored, too.   That is why lots of gods have jobs, and they do not die anyway.   So they do not get bored.    And some gods might have painful memories.  Because you do not die, memories accumulated.   Few of them, might choose to come down earth just to have the some bad memories erased.   As the earth is the only place can make your memories disappear.  But it is still able to be retrieved by gods, by using different methods.

But yourself will not carriy same bad memories any more and you still able to come back as one of the gods.  Since you got the titile, you will still have it.

Or just going into "Heaven" will be almost the same,  but it is semi-immortal,  but your soul get to rest for a while.

Hope this answered your question, and more questions are welcome.

There is really no need to be afraid of "Death", because when your soul leave your human body is "painless".

But you do have to worry if you had done many bad deeds while alive, beause most souls have to pay for their crimes.

Best policy is make up for it while alive.

Dude, I've been astral projecting by accident in the morning for years now, and I always end up here:


http://www.spiritual.com.au/articles/astral/astralp2_rbruce.htm#9

Tell me, how did you get to Heaven and Hell? Should I fly to the clouds, or jump down to the middle of the earth?

Thanks.

Hey Sapphire,

good to read your thread and glad to know there is another practicing Catholic who is open to new possibilities and experiences that can be discovered.  I really like this board because it has such a rich tapestry of people on it who have groundings in a number of various religious traditions, and some who aren't nominally "religious".  It is definitely a good environment for sharing experiences, knowledge, discussing theological points, etc.  I take it all in good fun and have no problem within those that have differences, as long as we can share, compare, and discuss in good faith, which has been my personal experience on this board so far.

I would like to learn more about your ebook, and will be following your stories here.  I do not believe that Astral Projection is "demonic" in nature, as some more fundamentalist folks might say.  It seems to be a purely medatative and rational process or procedure, and does not "conjure" or "invoke" anything...in other words,a skill that can be learned, just like playing a sport or learning a foreign language.  I am highly curious as to the techniques, as it is hard enough for me to even comprehend the kind of ability that people such as you have developed.  

thank you for posting your experiences.

Steve

Unfortunately, RP has pulled up such an old thread that I don't think Sapphire posts here anymore.  At least I haven't seen any in a long while.  Steve, I do hope you can find others here to learn from though.  We all learn from each other and there is a wide variety of experience here, so it won't be hard to find someone you resonate with.

Love, Vicky




newwayknight wrote on Jul 15^th, 2006 at 2:45pm:

Hey Sapphire, I would like to learn more about your ebook, and will be following your stories here.    I am highly curious as to the techniques, as it is hard enough for me to even comprehend the kind of ability that people such as you have developed.   thank you for posting your experiences. Steve