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Message started by Ayin on Jan 30th, 2005 at 12:26am

Title: Tsunami Ghosts ???
Post by Ayin on Jan 30th, 2005 at 12:26am
This is an email from walk-in Dick Sutphen. What are your views and thoughts???January 19, 2005: Superstition and Science and Ghosts in the Mirror

Our "scientific" culture's insistence that ghosts don't exist gets
laughable, sometimes.
A few days ago, my friend Colin Wilson sent me a news item headlined
"Thai tsunami trauma sparks rash of foreign ghost sightings." Note the
assumptions built into the headline: The trauma sparked the sightings.
The sightings themselves weren't real. Clearly the people couldn't
sight ghosts, because we know that ghosts don't exist.
But in southern Thailand, since the December 26 tsunami, locals have
been sighting ghosts in huge numbers. Many locals are saying they are
afraid to go near the beach, because of ghosts. And specific ghost
stories abound, including the foreigner and his Thai girlfriend (and
their baggage) who disappeared from the back seat of a taxi, and the
guard at a beachfront plaza who quit after hearing a foreign woman cry
"help me" all night, and the volunteers in two resort areas who heard
tourists laughing and singing on the beach - when the beach is empty.

Health experts explain it all away as "an outpouring of delayed mass
trauma." They describe the Thais as deeply superstitious, and a Thai
psychologist was quoted as saying that these experiences were "a type
of mass hallucination" caused by the trauma of "missing so many dead
people, and seeing so many dead people, and only talking about dead
people."

On the other hand, at least one local, who believes in ghosts, explains
the phenomena this way. It happened so quickly, she says, that "the
foreigners didn't know what happened and they all think they are still
on the beach. They all think they are still on holiday."
I'm with her, and I'll tell you why.

Nearly ten years ago, now, at a six-day Monroe Institute residential
program called Lifeline, I and my fellow class members learned how to
communicate with people who were dead and didn't know it. People who
die suddenly, or while disoriented, can get "lost." With nobody to keep
them appraised of the passage of time, unaware that they themselves are
creating what seems to them to be objective "external" reality, they
can be stuck tape-looping (as I call it) for years or decades of Earth
time. Some people do perceive them, and that's where we get reports of
ghosts. The Lifeline course taught us how to help these people to get
out of their endless tape loop, and move on. Ghost-busting, in short.

Bruce Moen has written four books about his Lifeline-inspired
We both know dozens of
people who have learned the same simple techniques. Bruce even teaches
two-day how-to courses. It isn't a matter of belief, it's a matter of
experience.

What passes for science in this materialist culture has declared that
ghosts don't exist. In this instance, at least, it doesn't know what it
doesn't know.




Title: Re: Tsunami Ghosts ???
Post by Marilyn Traver on Jan 30th, 2005 at 1:47pm
Wish I could go to the workshop but I'm moving again, back up to northeast Washington state where I lived for 12 years before I moved to Virginia.  I've only been here in Oregon since last June 10 and am already packing again.  One of my daughters and I are getting an apartment together in an old historic miner's hotel.  It's rumored to have lots of ghosts so you know what I'll be doing after I get there.  ::)

Love, Mairlyn   ;D

Title: Re: Tsunami Ghosts ???
Post by LightSeeker on Jan 30th, 2005 at 2:00pm
Dick Sutphen is a credible source. He knows what he is talking about.

Marilyn:
Last Feb. I was in Oroville Washington which sounds close to where you are moving. It was an incredible experience for me because of the beautiful mountains. I stayed with a friend for one week on top of a mountain, isolated with noone else close by. I had never experienced silence like that before! Good luck on your move.

LightSeeker

Title: Re: Tsunami Ghosts ???
Post by Marilyn Traver on Jan 30th, 2005 at 2:38pm
Yes, that is still a few miles away but it is beautiful there.  I agree totally.  It's all forest and very peaceful.  Maybe someday you'll visit your friend again and we can meet.  :o That would be cool.  ;)

Love, Mairlyn  ;D

Title: Re: Tsunami Ghosts ???
Post by LightSeeker on Jan 30th, 2005 at 2:46pm
That would indeed be cool Marilyn~

LightSeeker

Title: Re: Tsunami Ghosts ???
Post by Boris on Jan 31st, 2005 at 12:03am
thingy Sutphen is a credible source.


"thingy "

This appears to be a quote from a message of mine with the silly word "thingy" in it. I have no idea how that word got into my message. I never use it.
His name is Dick Sutphen!

Was some spook poking in my mind?

Title: Re: Tsunami Ghosts ???
Post by Boris on Jan 31st, 2005 at 12:08am
OMG , it happened again!
I distinctly wrote......now is it going to happen again?....Dick, as in Richard

Title: Re: Tsunami Ghosts ???
Post by Boris on Jan 31st, 2005 at 12:15am
Oh I get it. There is a censor at work on this board!
How very silly! The common short name for Richard is also a slang word for keer. Ha, I fooled you, I used the farsi name for it!

Title: Re: Tsunami Ghosts ???
Post by Marilyn Traver on Jan 31st, 2005 at 12:21am
Are you joking with us Boris?  What will happen if I type Dick Sutphen? ???

Title: Re: Tsunami Ghosts ???
Post by Marilyn Traver on Jan 31st, 2005 at 12:22am
Nope, you're right. I typed D i c k for Richard Sutphen. ROFLOL ;D

Title: "thingy" for Dick
Post by Boris on Feb 9th, 2005 at 5:38pm
The above messages are hard to understand now that they have been edited. But what had happened was that whenever the word Dick appeared, the automatic board  censor substituted the word "thingy"
But someone now changed in each case, the word "thingy" back to Dick, so you now don't know anymore what we were laughing about.

The censor problem has since been corrected by Bruce.

Title: Re: "thingy" for Dick
Post by Shirley on Feb 9th, 2005 at 6:02pm

wrote on Feb 9th, 2005 at 5:38pm:
The above messages are hard to understand now that they have been edited. But what had happened was that whenever the word Dick appeared, the automatic board  censor substituted the word "thingy"
But someone now changed in each case, the word "thingy" back to Dick, so you now don't know anymore what we were laughing about.

The censor problem has since been corrected by Bruce.


I remember talking about thingy Cheney on another board.. :D  

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