Subject line says it all.

To expand on this, briefly: not only is this possible but it is a highly desirable skill in my experience.

seagull, some I once worked with call what you speak about: frozen children.

Locating, conversing with and "retrieving" frozen children is a high skill. I put "retrieving" in quotation marks because there is no "retrieval" in the Afterlife Knowledge sense. What occurs is profoundly different than a retrieval, in my experience.

An example of a frozen child may look something like this: an aspect of us remains "frozen" in time at a Life Critical juncture. Let us imagine (in this example) a young girl whose horse breaks its leg and is put down as she watches. The complexity of the event overwhelms her emotional capacity and the child self remains "frozen" in time. As an adult, she remains part of us with emotional baggage that is left unresolved. This manifests in Real Life (TM) in various emotional incapacities that can cripple relationships.

The "rescue" or "retrieval" of the frozen child frees both the child and the adult of the embedded event.

Enough of theory.

While it is true I know and have worked with those who are highly skilled with frozen children, I find the techniques they use to be of limited effectiveness. The problem, I discovered, is the remedy doesn't "stick". My personal technique is rematrixing timelines. What does this mean?

To me, rematrixing timelines begins with allowing the frozen child to come to the table of her/his own free will. Finding the child is often the greatest challenge. Some are deeply hurt and can be most challenging to coax out of the safety of their hiding place(s).

It's always possible when operating in the Now. And this is how timelines can be rematrixed - by working only in the Now.

"Retrievals" of Selves who reside in the afterlife territories is really a different topic, in my experience. Likely I'll follow up on this topic in a bit. There's a great deal more first on the topic of frozen children, IMO.

Although I have great respect for various techniques to observe and assist such, I honestly gravitate toward those perspectives which call all such out. In other words. It is not necessary. To participate in a group chant and to experience oneself as part of a group which resonates through time and space. Enough.

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Yes that certainly works too!

Before I begin with this analogy I state categorically for the record I do not garden for anyone for any reason. There is no reason to go past mastery. Done, finito.

There are some varieties of weed that are very difficult to eradicate for good. Choker vines are among these. They cut the light off from the host plant the choker vines climb. The host never really dies, nor can it thrive. The parasite plant needs its host. The only way to permanently clear the parasite plant is to dig out every bit of the root. Any root that is not completely removed will grow back.

And this is why I seldom see "spiritual" clearing methods that have a permanent effect. Some of the root remains. Actually this is also true with medicine, both Eastern and Western. I've no wish to delve deeper into that mechanic at this moment.

What I find to be effective is rematrixing timelines. And it is never the healer's duty to do so. The entire mechanic of healer-patient is flawed (this is the part I said in the previous paragraph I didn't wish to go).

Rematrixing timelines in my experience, begins with .... now this is difficult to relay properly. I speak strictly now from my own experience with this. It has to do with a shift to a new metapoint of ourselves as Both/And. From this position we make new connections that were unavailable before. That's how we rematrix timelines. Where all is possible ....

Recoverer 2 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:57am:

I see upthead a reference to working with one's "higher self".

My personal experience — Your mileage may will vary! — is as multidimensional beings we have no single "higher self". It all depends on which reference prism we use.

Think of "reference prism" as "timeliine". Though "timeline" is massively misleading when accessing multidimensionality.

When we look at an individual's "mission of the soul", for example, which mission on which reference prism do we observe? There are many in all cases I observe(d).

Morrighan:

Certainly you have some beliefs, because if you didn't, you wouldn't have a basis for saying anything.

Beliefs that are based on false knowledge are a problem,  not beliefs that are based on what is true.

For example, if a person has found through experience and other means that God is the source of all love,  it isn't wrong to have such a belief.

Regarding higher selves, when we reach the point when we are at one with God, then we won't need to speak of things such as higher selves, soul groups and realms of being. But when we aren't there yet, just as it is applicable to say that we are now incarnated in a body, it is applicable to say that we are an extension of our higher self, and that wisdom can be found with our higher self. To say that we are beyond doing such a thing before we have actually rejoined our higher self, can be a self-limiting intellectual trap.

One way or the other people will need to either BELIEVE that beliefs have no place at all, or that they have a place if used wisely.

If you share your "beliefs" on a forum, don't be surprised if  people express differing beliefs.

"Morrighan: If there is a single leitmotif in my posts, it is expressed by: go look for yourself."

An example of tautology: I went there personally.

Morrighan wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:39pm:


I'm taking in what you're saying here, I guess trying to see it from a perspective I haven't thought of before.  Very interesting way to look at it!

"Morrighan: Serious thread drift. Sad"

The response was an attempt at funky humour, and I have my reasons for it, being born in a decade so disco even the rats had afros. Ok, serious.

Your description of self retrieval sounds similar to how some shamans speaks of soul retrieval of soul pieces, but it's about healing supposedly.

Sometimes I'm mystified as to what is meant by terms I suspect you are more familiar with than the reader, but this was clear to me and I enjoyed reading about how you think and see things.

In your experience with aspects of self, is there a common reason for them to be left behind? Is there a common/familiar response of a self when an aspect returns?

What appears to engage as I look into another's field (again, with explicit permission) is a shift to that individual's metapoint of both/and.

For we (some but not all) are eternal beings engaged in a temporal experience. The metapoint of both/and is the presence of the being who is both eternal and temporal AND. The mission teams I work with have names for these dimensions that are fairly meaningless out-of-context. It doesn't matter. My experience on this board is the usage of these names for the dimensional aspects of an individual are counter-productive. We do technical work and little of it concerns afterlife knowledge.

And often observed here are the questions: do you have helpers? who are they? are they of the light? are you of the light? what is your alignment? Blah blah, woof woof as Jimi Hendrix sagely remarked. All that matters is I am doing what is mine to do. This is all that is required of anyone, insofar as I see.

What is mine to do is engage in a dialogue with my client on a multidimensional level from the metapoint. And honestly I never know what will happen.

What sometimes happens is some aspect of Self comes forward to be acknowledged. In this respect it's a little like an afterlife retrieval. Listening is nine tenths of the work.

It is at this point where people appreciate a good story. Like when Client Z suddenly recognized an aspect of herself and shifted immediately. Oh yes, very good story time. And here is where I remind our home viewers: it's only a story. We are our own stories. We create our stories and our stories create us.

This is how we rematrix timelines. Okay, I don't like to call them timelines. I call them reference prisms. And that's correct in a more technical way when talking of a multidimensional Being.

From the metapoint of both/And it is possible to shift a story into a new recursion. From the metapoint of both/And all is possible.

Who knows why certain beings choose the paths they do? Ri Runno. That's why I am so particular about never interfering with another's field.

Okay, story. We have a certain individual, a client, whose multidimensionality includes a personality who does not wish to be seen. This is a fully developed, complete personality, and this personality sometimes takes the driver's seat. As one might well imagine, this can create a lot of "problems" in the individual's life as other personalities believe that with nobody at the wheel the car will go out of control.

What occurs from the metapoint in which the client is shifted into is we can begin talking of this aspect of self who runs and hides. And sure enough, it is as if this personality is hiding behind a door, listening to every word we say. And, like a retrieval, this personality is coaxed to come into the room of her own free will. And now for the first time we let her speak.

Only the client has the power to decide. To me, it's about being present to what wants to be seen.

To be continued? It's only a story ....