I became a member of this forum because I liked the open-minded-ness of Mr. Bruce Moen while reading his books. But here in this forum , Mr. Alan is trying to dismiss all the findings of Mr. Moen and promoting a fundamentalist version of Christianity. So as a new member I am confused. If Mr. Moen does not respond then many open-minded new members will get confused.

Hello, and welcome to this forum. Mr. Moen rarely comments on posts on the forum. He stated long ago that people would say he was "influencing" others if he commented a lot. I don't know if he still feels that way. There is a place he mentions occasionally, on this forum, for people to make their complaints if they wish.

It is common for this forum to become "rowdy" and for some posters to be long winded and extremely opinionated. And at times it is very very quiet here.

In any case, I recommend Bruce Moen's cds and books. They don't appeal to everyone.

I find the constant preachiness here by several folks tedious at times. And I'm sure a few folks disliked some of my posts over the years. Whatever. We're only doing this dance on earth for a short time...

There are some people who post who have never practiced Moen's meditation methods and really just appear to enjoy each other's company -- whether they are arguing or not. Some have been visiting here for many years, under a few different names.

So, I hope you don't take it to heart. None of the "chaos" lasts all that long, and you are always welcome to jump in -- at your own risk of course (!). People come here for all kinds of reasons. I hope you find something to enjoy.