doodad wrote on Mar 31^st, 2015 at 4:26pm:


Hey, I had to google up some science facts related to your post that I did not know or forgot. Dinosaurs were all but wiped out 65 million years ago because of that huge asteroid that impacted our planet resulting in a catastrophic annihilation of nearly all of living animals and also fauna and flora on our globe.

There were no indigenous human like physical beings on our planet at that time be it 'cave men and women', or higher like 'hunter-gatherers' living in straw or wicker huts.   

Mother Earth healed itself over millions of years.      

Mammals existed with the dinosaurs, but they were no bigger than a small mouse. Due to size they were largely ignored by larger carnivorous reptiles who dominated the food chain, although herbivore dinosaurs outnumbered them.

These mammals survived and evolved into what we have here today.

Nancy Danison is a lawyer, so she is extremely calculating and researches everything in what she writes on her supposed NDE. Lawyers are actors and actresses in legal theater. I dismiss her claims.  George GMan 



    

I appreciate all your replies.

2bets,
   I suppose we all have thresholds of belief, so to speak, beyond which we are unwilling to be credulous. It has worked that way with me about creationism. I have asked myself what would have to change for that concept to be true. The answer is that either we know nothing, nor can we know anything, about the universe we live in, as whole fields of science would have to be thrown out; or else earth's entire history was co-opted by Satan or something else to deceive us. Neither view seems very rational to me. I will grant that what you suggest is possible but I confess I don't see it as very likely, given what we know about earth's history and the evolutionary process. But thats me.

   I have read about the 10,000 year old iceman, "Otzi" but didn't know he was found with a battery. I'd be interested to read that if you could provide a link. Thanks!

Hi,
My computer crashed when I approached a site about this 'out of place artifact' we were discussing. Safari and Apple sent automated messages that there was a security breach but the Apple phone number suggested for such situations wasn't answered in my four ten-minute waits. So what's new (-: My computer remained frozen to those messages until last night.

'Out of place in time' artifact (or 'oopat' as I recall from 2 days ago) is a designation used for more than the battery I once
saw written up. My computer crashed at the google-search result whose address began with 'apnews…..' -- but Don't go there using a googled link unless you have a spare computer!
To protect my computer for now I accept doodad's incredulity and Gman's lack of curiosity.

However, doodad, I don't agree with your all or nothing two choices because it closes the door on other possibilities. Hypothetically, what if this planet was seeded with life to create a habitat for early space travelers from another realm? That would explain images of ufos in early oil paintings. And would they be Satan's emissaries if they were routinely coming back to check on man's progress over the centuries?

I regret I don't know Nanci Danison's take on ufo's, to tie the discussion back to the thread's title.

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Just to clarify, (I thought I had made myself clear) - my "all or nothing two choices" were only my thought experiment to come to grips with what would it would mean were creationism true. Nothing more than that.

  Regarding the sex drive and how it fits into spirituality. I find this quote from Yeshua (Jesus) to be illustrative to what i was talking about earlier.  Since he was likely celibate himself (by re-routing that energy, rather than repressing it like most), he was also referring to himself as to the last part. 

  "For there are eunuchs who were born so from their mother's womb and there are eunuchs who became eunuchs by men and there are those who have made themselves eunuchs for the cause of the Kingdom of Heaven. Whoever can receive it let him receive it.” Matthew  19:12

  As i said, i don't think it's necessary for people to try to do this, unless they are led to it from inner guidance. Repressing sex drive can cause more problems than having a healthy sex drive. 

But, as my experience has shown me, and as Yeshua seemed to be saying, the most expanded way involves re-routing that energy. 

  Cayce's guidance talked about this some to, and indicated that it was possible to become healthily celibate if one properly re-routed this energy through right meditation and right living/daily choices.  They talked about the Kundalini moving up through the endocrine glandular centers, and that if it reached to the Pineal and then "spilled over" to the Pituitary, which they considered the most expanded center/state of consciousness, one could become free of the sex drive/impulse. 

  But the blocks and hindrances have to first be removed before the Kundalini, aka life force, could reach that area. As the Pituitary or "3rd eye" as Cayce's guidance called it, was that of full God consciousness, it doesn't seem that too many that we know of, have kept in such a state. 

  I'm only sure of one person in our recorded history. Taoists whispered about such mastery and had legends of same, but as to actual examples of people who fully overcame death and became a "He/she" type, doesn't seem to be the case.